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4 hours ago, SnarkShark said:

Spinoffs for things that haven't even released? 

Dune is actually a book series, already has one movie treatment (David Lynch) and a mini series of the first three books (SyFy). So while the new movie tie-in will help, the show isn’t based solely on the movie.

I love the Bene Gesserit from the books. The Dune series is such a rich and varied world. 

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I'm fascinated by this side of the Dune universe, but haven't read the Brian Herbert books. I tried. I can't. 

This isn't the book thread, but I think Sisters of the Vast Black by Lina Rather might be of interest to Bene Gesserit fans. 

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13 minutes ago, BlackberryJam said:

I'm fascinated by this side of the Dune universe, but haven't read the Brian Herbert books. I tried. I can't. 

This isn't the book thread, but I thing Sisters of the Vast Black by Lina Rather might be of interest to Bene Gesserit fans. 

God I loved the book. He created a complete universe not just as background for the major characters. I hope that makes sense! 

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Yeah, I will chime in here to say that the original Dune and (less so) one or two of the sequels together are quite the masterpiece in universe building. Especially the original. I read Sisters of the Vast Black and (IMO!) found it thin, polemic and predictable. Not even in the same league, despite my hopeful expectations (nuns in space!).

Anyways, the casting for this series is superb so if we are lucky enough to have good writers who can riff off the already created reality to supply a brilliant backstory then it should be wonder-filled.

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The Bene Gesserit operated within the patriarchy and used the patriarchy against itself, while working to create the a man to rule them all. It was very odd and i would really like to see whatever could be made of it, although i'm not sure that is what I'd see. Assuming the show is made, at this point.

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‘Dune: The Sisterhood’ Adds Olivia Williams, Jodhi May Following Cast Exits; Anna Foerster Boards as Director

Olivia Williams playing Tula Harkonnen and Jodhi May playing Natalya, join “Dune: The Sisterhood” while Shirley Henderson and Indira Varma depart. Anna Foerster is now the director of the series, replacing Johan Renck.

Set in the world of “Dune” 10,000 years before the ascension of Paul Atreides, the series follows the Harkonnen sisters as they combat forces that threaten the future of humankind, and establish the fabled sect known as the Bene Gesserit. The prequel is based on the novel “Sisterhood of Dune” by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.

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Dune: Prophecy Set for Fall Debut — Watch Teaser Trailer for Max Prequel Series
BY MATT WEBB MITOVICH   MAY 15, 2024 
https://tvline.com/trailers/dune-prophecy-prequel-series-release-date-trailer-1235239517/ 

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Max‘s Dune: Prophecy prequel series will hit your screens this fall, HBO CEO Casey Bloys announced on Wednesday morning during Warner Bros. Discovery’s Upfront presentation. A first-look teaser for the six=episode season was also revealed, as seen above.

Ordered to series way back in June 2019 — before the streamer fka HBO Max had any name, and well ahead of Dune: Part One‘s October 2021 release — Dune: Prophecy is set 10,000 years before the ascension of Paul Atreides (played by Timothée Chalamet in the film franchise). It follows two Harkonnen sisters as they combat forces that threaten the future of humankind and in turn establish the fabled sect that will become known as the Bene Gesserit.
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The Dune: Prophecy cast includes Olivia Williams (Counterpart) and Emily Watson (Chernobyl) as Tula and Valya Harkonnen, two sisters who have risen to power in the Sisterhood, a secret organization of women who will go on to become the Bene Gesserit; Jodhi May (The Witcher) as Empress Natalya, a formidable royal who united thousands of worlds in her marriage to Emperor Corrin; Travis Fimmel (Vikings) as Desmond Hart, a charismatic soldier with an enigmatic past; plus Sarah-Sofie Boussnina (Knightfall), Shalom Brune-Franklin (The Tourist), Aoife Hinds (Normal People), Chloe Lea (Foundation) and Faoileann Cunningham (The Northman).

Additionally, Indian superstar Tabu will recur as Sister Francesca, once a great love of the Emperor, The End of the F**king World‘s Jessica Barden will play a young version of Watson’s character, and South Korean actress/musician Jihae will guest-star as Reverend Mother Kasha, the Emperor’s Truthsayer and confidant.

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Brian Herbert's Dune books are pretty unreadable if you are expecting Frank Herbert's Dune.  However, this does not make them unsuitable for TV; I expect they are more suitable than Frank Herbert's novels which are too densely and subtextually written to translate to 2 or 3 dimensions.

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Dune: Prophecy is a 6 episode TV Series airing on November 17, 2024 on HBO at   9pm. Dune: Prophecy is based on the Dune Books by Frank Herbert, but more closely based on the novel Sisterhood of Dune, by Frank Herbert’s son Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. The TV Series is set 30 years after the events of Sisterhood of Dune book and 10,000 years before Paul Atreides and the events in the Dune movies, Dune: Part One (2021), Dune: Part Two (2024), and the upcoming Dune: Messiah/(Dune: Part Three).  

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Dune: Prophecy's focus on the Bene Gesserit of Rossak, this all-female sect occupy positions of influence in the halls of power, but they also operate in the shadows and engage in espionage, sabotage, romantic entanglements, and an abundance of manipulation. The "Reverend Mother", the head of the Bene Gesserit Order has the unique ability to access the memories of all Reverend Mothers who came before. The "Reverend Mother", with a knowledge of the past and present, attempts to architect/design the future. At this early date, the Bene Gesserit Sect is still coming into existence, with two women as the driving force behind its rise to prominence. Valya and Tula Harkonnen, biological sisters, extremely important members of this new Sisterhood.

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Valya Harkonnen, she is a girl whose "Noble" family has experienced a tremendous fall from power and has lost its royal status as their name is associated with traitors and cowards. Valya dreams of restoring their name to a place she feels is rightfully theirs. The Emperor Javicco Corrino stands in her way, but he has a tenuous hold on the human-occupied universe, as the Emperor faces threats from an anti-technology Butlerian movement. 

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The Bene Gesserit plans are in jeopardy when the Emperor sends Princess Anna Corrino to learn the ways of the Bene Gesserit, who wish to steer humanity on a noble course and save humankind by genetically engineering a supreme being, in a process that may take many centuries. This means making difficult choices that may not seem beneficial in the short term.

Rakie Ayola as Reverend Mother Superior Raquella Berto-Anirul

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Emily Watson as Mother Superior Valya Harkonnen, Tula's older sister, the second person to become Reverend Mother Superior of the Bene Gesserit Order.

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Jessica Barden as Young Valya Harkonnen

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Olivia Williams as Reverend Mother Tula Harkonnen

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Mark Addy as Evgeny Harkonnen

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Edward Davis as Harrow Harkonnen

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Jihae as Reverend Mother Kasha

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Yerin Ha as Young Kasha

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Tabu as Sister Francesca, a strong, intelligent, and alluring, Sister Francesca leaves a lasting impression in her wake. A former lover of the Emperor, her return to the palace strains the balance of power in the capital. 

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Charithra Chandran as Young Francesca

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Jade Anouka as Sister Theodosia, a talented and ambitious acolyte at the Sisterhood who harbors a dangerous secret about her past.

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Aoife Hinds as Sister Emeline

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Chloe Lea as Sister Lila

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Shalom Brune-Franklin as Mikaela

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Faoileann Cunningham as Sister Jen

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Mark Strong as Emperor Javicco Corrino, a man from a great line of war-time Emperors, who is called upon to govern the Imperium and manage a fragile peace.

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Jodhi May as Empress Natalya Arat

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Charlie Hodson-Prior as the young Richese prince      

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Josh Heuston as Constantine Corrino

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Sarah-Sofie Boussnina as Princess Ynez Corrino

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Chris Mason as Keiran Atreides, an Atreides Swordmaster to a Great House, who forms an unexpected connection to a member of the royal family.

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Travis Fimmel as Desmond Hart, a loyal soldier to the Emperor 

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22 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

I never read the books, nor have I seen the movies. Yet I'm intrigued by the commercials I've seen. Can I go into this blind?

The show is set 10,000 years before the movies, but only 30 years after the events in the "Sisterhood of Dune" book, unless you want to read that book first, I would think it would be safe to go into the show blind.

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I don't think I'm going to bother until the season runs its course to see if it gets canceled like everything else, or at least ends in a complete story. There's only like 6,8? episodes anyway. 

I've read maybe 90% of all the Dune books because I like the universe, and I don't think Brian Herbert is nearly as poor as people make him out to be. It's kind of getting oversaturated, but I might at least read these 'great society' books or whatever they're called; Sisterhood, Mentats, Suk. 

I read the first ones from the jihad through to the establishment of the Great Houses and liked those. And all the sequels. 

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