FBI: Most Wanted - General Discussion

[LisaM]

27 minutes ago, Kleav said:

It was! But was she doing it on her own, with no intention of arresting him?

Looks like she just ruined his life to teach him a lesson.

[EtheltoTillie]

I was wondering what they were going to do with the dog during the armed confrontation. Stay, puppy, stay. 

Partly ripped from the headlines of that weird Sarah Lawrence cult case. 

[milkyaqua]

13 hours ago, LisaM said:

The person who came out of this the best was Dev - run, Dev, run! 

Agree.  Though he probably should have just reported girlfriend's brother to the school.  It probably still would have gone off the rails but maybe not to the extent it did.

I was fine with Hana ruining a pedo's life but is she really just doing this on her own time with no back-up or coordinated effort from some official agency?  What the heck is that about and when is it going to come back and bite her because I thought for a moment there Remy was going to jump on her about not figuring out the bank security thing sooner.

[Maverick]

 Pretty sure Hanna is doing it on her own. That's why she's being so sketchy about it.  Plus if it was a law enforcement operation they would arrest him not put him on blast.  

 As to why, it's because of the kidnapping she went through.  Ray thought she had a drinking problem because of it (and she probably does) but going after criminals like the ones who took her is how she's coping.  

 The miss on the bank info was another not so subtle clue to Hanna's problems so we're obviously due for an episode where this all comes to a head. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

S04•E17 - The Miseducation of Metcalf 2

OMFG! I cannot stand Bethany at all. I keep yelling at my screen - shoot her, shoot her! 👿

Is Hana using FBI resources and databases for her personal pedo stings? For her own safety, she shouldn’t reveal herself. What were you thinking Hana??!

 

[Maverick]

Hanna is a hacker (that's how she became an agent, Jess caught her and convinced her to go into law enforcement) so she's probably finding these guys on the dark web.  If she's using FBI resources she's covering her tracks. 

 She revealed herself but she didn't identify herself. He'd have a hard time finding out who she is. Still, I'd guess one of her targets will figure out who she is and it will put her job if not her life in jeopardy. 

 

[Xeliou66]

Pretty good episode - typical creepy perp in Patrick, and I didn’t feel much sympathy for the 2 girls either, they were stupid to get sucked in to crime by an obvious scumbag creep. I liked the case and how it played out.

I wonder about Hana tracking down the pedo guy on her own time, and if that story will go somewhere. She’s definitely doing this because of her kidnapping and I wonder if this was just a one time story or if it’s leading somewhere.

I wonder where the dog Remy was walking came from - I remember reading that that is the actor’s real life dog, but i don’t think Remy has a dog. Maybe it was a police dog. 

[Andyourlittledog2]

19 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Maybe it was a police dog. 

Can you imagine that little dog chasing down a criminal?  Scary!  😁

[rr2911]

On 4/12/2023 at 6:48 PM, Maverick said:

Hanna is a hacker (that's how she became an agent, Jess caught her and convinced her to go into law enforcement) so she's probably finding these guys on the dark web.  If she's using FBI resources she's covering her tracks. 

 She revealed herself but she didn't identify herself. He'd have a hard time finding out who she is. Still, I'd guess one of her targets will figure out who she is and it will put her job if not her life in jeopardy. 

 

I guess everyone is wondering the same thing about Hana.  I questioned how come she didn't arrest the pedo.  Also, remember Hana closed her laptop when Ray walked in to get water?  She obviously didn't want him to see what she was looking at.  This will probably come back to bite her in the butt later in the season.

 

[EtheltoTillie]

On 4/15/2023 at 1:51 PM, rr2911 said:

I guess everyone is wondering the same thing about Hana.  I questioned how come she didn't arrest the pedo.  Also, remember Hana closed her laptop when Ray walked in to get water?  She obviously didn't want him to see what she was looking at.  This will probably come back to bite her in the butt later in the season.

 

Already handled tonight. Why does Kristin have scars?  I don’t know the back story.  This may have further repercussions later, though. 
The COTW was okay. I liked how the local sheriff talked them down by referring to personal things. 

[chicagofan]

Kristen was on an undercover assignment when her cover was blown. She was raped and tortured. She kept it all to herself until episode 12 of season 3 (El Pincho) where she was held captive again. After she was freed she told the truth about her scars to her ex husband who previously thought the scars were from a car accident.

[Xeliou66]

Good episode last night - I liked seeing the team out west in Wyoming and I liked how they tracked down the perps. This is the most well written of the 3 FBI shows right now IMO, greatest variety of cases. I knew Hana’s online work would cause problems for her I just didn’t know how. 

[rr2911]

19 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Already handled tonight. Why does Kristin have scars?  I don’t know the back story.  This may have further repercussions later, though. 
The COTW was okay. I liked how the local sheriff talked them down by referring to personal things. 

Somehow I think Hana'a issue is going to come up again.  Only Kristin knows about Hana's lonewolf.  How many other pedos did Hana expose?  Maybe the next one won't kill themselves but want revenge.  By only telling Kristin, it just feels like it's not over.

 

Good episode as always but I'm starting to see a pattern here.  I'm not going to say what that patteren is.  I want to keep posting on here.  

[LisaM]

I really liked how the local sheriff saved the day. 

[MarylandGirl]

16 minutes ago, LisaM said:

I really liked how the local sheriff saved the day. 

Same--nice change from the FBI jumping in and saving everything.

I admit that after the first 10 minutes or so of this ep, I almost turned it off. It just didn't seem like my kind of case. But glad I kept watching.

[Snazzy Daisy]

S04•E18 - Rangeland

This thing with Hana (her pedo stings) is very unsettling. Instead of getting professional help and taking the right medication for her PTSD, she’s dealing with it in an unhealthy manner. And the advice from Kristin isn’t helping. When it comes to PTSD, they both like to keep things close to the chest. I wish Hana talks to Sheryll about her struggles. She can’t hide from Remy any longer. Nobody can ignore moody and grumpy Hana.

Not interested in COTW.

 

[MarylandGirl]

6 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

S04•E18 - Rangeland

This thing with Hana (her pedo stings) is very unsettling. Instead of getting professional help and taking the right medication for her PTSD, she’s dealing with it in an unhealthy manner. And the advice from Kristin isn’t helping. When it comes to PTSD, they both like to keep things close to the chest. I wish Hana talks to Sheryll about her struggles. She can’t hide from Remy any longer. Nobody can ignore moody and grumpy Hana.

Not interested in COTW.

 

Agreed, and I see how it could end with one of them coming after her. She claims she's being very careful about it, keeping her identity and FBI role secret. But what if one of them, say, has a gun and follows her out of the restaurant? Or just follows her and figures out where she lives, then comes after her later?

[rr2911]

2 hours ago, MarylandGirl said:

Agreed, and I see how it could end with one of them coming after her. She claims she's being very careful about it, keeping her identity and FBI role secret. But what if one of them, say, has a gun and follows her out of the restaurant? Or just follows her and figures out where she lives, then comes after her later?

I'm starting to think about how many directions this can go.  One direction that came to mind is Hana being written out of the show.  Maybe the actress wants to leave?  Something to keep in mind.

[MarylandGirl]

3 hours ago, rr2911 said:

I'm starting to think about how many directions this can go.  One direction that came to mind is Hana being written out of the show.  Maybe the actress wants to leave?  Something to keep in mind.

I hope not. I just recently started watching, and she's my favorite.

So another direction could be that she ends up leading them to a really big case. Like she realizes one of the guys she contacted is just the tip of the iceberg in a big child porn ring, then comes clean about what she's been doing to Remy so they can go after him? Though I imagine that could put her job at risk.

[rr2911]

14 hours ago, MarylandGirl said:

I hope not. I just recently started watching, and she's my favorite.

So another direction could be that she ends up leading them to a really big case. Like she realizes one of the guys she contacted is just the tip of the iceberg in a big child porn ring, then comes clean about what she's been doing to Remy so they can go after him? Though I imagine that could put her job at risk.

Ok, that sounds like that could happen.  I could actually see Remy being upset with Hana for going about this alone, not to mention breaking some rules, but in the end I think Remy will understand.  Just another indication that Remy always has his team's back.

    

[ninjakid]

TV shows should just stop trying to do Wyoming geography though. It's over two hours of driving to get from Kemmerer to Alpine. And Alpine is the last place you'd go for your conspiracy folks. It's mostly a bedroom community for Jackson these days. 

[Xeliou66]

This was a very good episode - twisted, wild case, good twist with the wife turning out to be an accomplice and then the couple turning out to be siblings, I liked the investigation and how it all tied together. The original Law and Order did an episode about a fertility doctor using his own sperm with patients and fathering a bunch of kids, bizarre stuff. I didn’t feel much sympathy for the perps, yeah they had their world turned upside down but they killed innocent people in their rampage. The doctor was despicable and I liked Remy telling him he hoped they gutted him like a trout in prison, if it wasn’t for that asswipe none of it would’ve happened. Very strong and twisted case.

What I don’t care for is the subplot about Remy’s brother’s murder, I don’t look forward to the season finishing with this storyline, I don’t care for personal stuff and it’s just all too predictable. I did think Remy had strong material in this one, him with the dog was good, hopefully the storyline about getting to the bottom of his brother’s case will be pulled off okay, but I’m not a fan of going down this route. 

Edited April 26, 2023 by Xeliou66

[EtheltoTillie]

Well, that was creepy.  Would you believe that Rookie Feds also had a plot about children of sperm donors last night? 

[Lady Jane]

Did... did Remy actually say "send the popo?" 

This character is insufferable 

[susannot]

This prison break episode is exciting. The nurse was a total badass.  Inmate about to rape her:  "Do you know how long it's been since I was with a woman?"  Nurse:  "Judging by your breath, never."  (Stabs him to death with her broken clipboard.)

Edited May 10, 2023 by susannot

[Blue hues]

Who was the inmate that got stuck when the bars/doors were closing?  I believe he then got stabbed?  Was he left there?  

[Izzy85]

It took me almost the entire hour to realize who the warden was, it was driving me crazy, lol.

It's Damian Chapa (Miklo from Blood In blood Out) in case anyone else was wondering.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Izzy85

[rr2911]

Good episode but I had to roll my eyes a bit.  There were two gangs but of course there was the obvious one (typical in today's tv shows) that was the worse of the two.  You had again the today's standard inmate bad guy and the today's standard inmate good guy.  FBIMW is really pushing a certain envelope here, one of which is growing tiresome, but nonetheless I continue to watch hoping there will be some balance.

 

[Chaos Theory]

I actually liked this last one.   There is always a “let’s go to prison” episode in a crime drama but Most Wanted handled it in a “fun” way.   Yeah we need to get a snitch out of a prison riot so he can well snitch but there’s a bit of a snag and a kid who was there during visitation didn’t get out…oh yeah and that pesky dirty prison guard.     It was all handled fairly well and the motivations were pretty clear.   Yea you can kinda nitpick that there were only black and white inmates but there might have been a throwaway line about where all the other inmates were or well maybe you just kinda had to let it slide for the story.    I did like that daddy inmate turned out to be a decent guy in the end.

Still don’t care about Remy’s story but I am guessing the lady who is doing the story on his brother or the guy who got convicted of the crime or something is going to end up murdered….which is going to bring the whole team in on the crime to chase down the dude who really killed Remy’s brother.

8 hours ago, rr2911 said:

Good episode but I had to roll my eyes a bit.  There were two gangs but of course there was the obvious one (typical in today's tv shows) that was the worse of the two.  You had again the today's standard inmate bad guy and the today's standard inmate good guy.  FBIMW is really pushing a certain envelope here, one of which is growing tiresome, but nonetheless I continue to watch hoping there will be some balance.

 

 

I don't think there was one worse of the two.  Both gangs were willing to let the kid die for their cause.  Black gang leader literally told the father of the kid that saving the kid was worth it only to the father and letting him die would actually benefit the entire gang because of what they would all get for the trade of the snitch.     So neither gang was seen as particularly "good'

Edited May 10, 2023 by Chaos Theory

[rr2911]

1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:

I actually liked this last one.   There is always a “let’s go to prison” episode in a crime drama but Most Wanted handled it in a “fun” way.   Yeah we need to get a snitch out of a prison riot so he can well snitch but there’s a bit of a snag and a kid who was there during visitation didn’t get out…oh yeah and that pesky dirty prison guard.     It was all handled fairly well and the motivations were pretty clear.   Yea you can kinda nitpick that there were only black and white inmates but there might have been a throwaway line about where all the other inmates were or well maybe you just kinda had to let it slide for the story.    I did like that daddy inmate turned out to be a decent guy in the end.

Still don’t care about Remy’s story but I am guessing the lady who is doing the story on his brother or the guy who got convicted of the crime or something is going to end up murdered….which is going to bring the whole team in on the crime to chase down the dude who really killed Remy’s brother.

 

I don't think there was one worse of the two.  Both gangs were willing to let the kid die for their cause.  Black gang leader literally told the father of the kid that saving the kid was worth it only to the father and letting him die would actually benefit the entire gang because of what they would all get for the trade of the snitch.     So neither gang was seen as particularly "good'

I don't know.  Even in the Remy storyline, they make it a point to announce the race of the one who is accused of killing Remy's brother and the one who was having an arguement with him.  Does every episode have to have that division?  

[Chaos Theory]

9 minutes ago, rr2911 said:

I don't know.  Even in the Remy storyline, they make it a point to announce the race of the one who is accused of killing Remy's brother and the one who was having an arguement with him.  Does every episode have to have that division?  

Well kinda.  A black guy might have gotten railroaded by the system when a witness saw a white guy fighting with Remy’s brother.   Like it or not this is a crime drama and skin color plays a huge part of crime and drama.  

[Xeliou66]

This was a good episode, the prison riot was intense, I liked seeing how it played out. I called the shot that the guard would be dirty the minute he wanted to go in himself. I liked the nurse stabbing the creep who was going to rape her. Good episode with a good resolution and I liked how the showed us Kristin and Hana arresting the guy who killed the agent at the end.

I don’t care for the story about Remy’s brother’s murder, I dislike the personal drama and I don’t really care where the story goes.

[rr2911]

4 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Well kinda.  A black guy might have gotten railroaded by the system when a witness saw a white guy fighting with Remy’s brother.   Like it or not this is a crime drama and skin color plays a huge part of crime and drama.  

Well, it doesn't have to be.  Not the way the show is spinning it.  I know what you're saying, in this day and age shows are going to for the skin color drama.  They could've just as easily had both individuals the same race.  Have you noticed the bad guys have always been one skin color this season or maybe the past couple?  I think there was one episode that was an exception, but it was spun in a way that we were suppose to feel sorry for the bad guy who had a rough up bringing.  I know it's crime drama.  It's a show, a very good show, and I know I will keep watching it.  I just wish they didn't have to follow the other shows on tv.

[Snazzy Daisy]

S04•E20 - These Walls

I hate prison riot stories because I will be forced to see a lot of tortures, stabbings and brutal killings. Really struggling to finish this episode.

Remy taking the lead and his stalling tactic don’t really make sense to a certain extent. Why aren’t the Feds working together with SWAT leaders to strategize? Their plan will probably fail without the help from Jordan Williams - he’s the MVP, not Remy.

Reinvestigating the murder of Remy’s brother and his OTT anger - get it done already. Not interesting and so cliché.  
 

[WendyCR72]

I figured shooting was already done, but I guess not: The WGA has interrupted filming of the remainder of the season's episodes on Thursday and Friday due to the ongoing Writers Strike.

Per the article, apparently parts of shooting did go on but without certain staff that refused to cross picket lines.

 

[Maverick]

They must be filming to get ahead for next to head off the strike.   Quantum Leap did the same thing.  The finale is in a little over a week so they can't still be shooting for this season.  

[Snazzy Daisy]

FBI: Most Wanted | 4x21 - "Clean House"

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The Fugitive Task Force searches for a missing migrant teen they believe was lured into unlawful work by a dangerous man. Also, Remy learns of a previously undisclosed witness in his brother’s murder case.

Airdate: May 16, 2023  

 

 

[Xeliou66]

Pretty good episode - more evil villains. Good investigation into the case and a good role for each agent. I did find it kind of comical when the rich bad guy took off from the FBI, rich perps don’t usually engage in foot chases, but it was satisfying to see him get what he deserved. Don’t really care for the storyline about Remy’s brother’s murder, hopefully it will be over after next week. 

[EtheltoTillie]

I had to turn this one off.  I just couldn't watch another girl torture porn. 

[milkyaqua]

5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I had to turn this one off.  I just couldn't watch another girl torture porn. 

I was in and out as well.  This and the shows that show children being abused is something else I don't care to watch.  I know these things happen but for some shows it's like their bread and butter and I just don't watch.

I'm also hoping that they wrap up the Remy's brother storyline for the season finale.

Edited May 17, 2023 by milkyaqua

[EtheltoTillie]

2 minutes ago, milkyaqua said:

I'm also hoping that they wrap up the Remy's brother storyline for the season finale.

I will wait for the TLDW version of that story!

[theredhead77]

That was intense and it's about time one of these types of shows did a rooted in real-life episode about these issues.

15 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

I did find it kind of comical when the rich bad guy took off from the FBI, rich perps don’t usually engage in foot chases, but it was satisfying to see him get what he deserved.

The foot chase was great, but the lawyer quitting, then getting fired (you can't quit, you're fired!) right before the arrest was icing. Remy is really growing on me. "Not even a little" when the trafficker, murder, rapist bad guy tried to identify.
 

[Chaos Theory]

I actually found this episode kinda boring.  Not sure why.   The only moment I actually liked was rich white guy in comically blue suit trying to run from our heroes.  

[Andyourlittledog2]

Welcome to the Remy hour.  The other agents are but bit players in Remy's world. 

You know it's pretty easy for a large muscular young man trained by the FBI and carrying a gun to look down his nose at a middleaged short non-muscly woman in the house alone for not defying a man with a gun in her face.  That really pissed me off. She obviously felt terrible that she wasn't able to do something but she did call the police and report the incident and do what she could to help them identify the man and the girl involved. Was she supposed to get killed too?  They'd have three bodies and no clue whatsoever to get them to the perpetrator.  Even if she had let the girl in a bit quicker after only a split second to understand the situation and determine that the girl was not just faking to get her to let her into the house, the guy had followed in the van and would easily have broken in and killed her and grabbed the girl. He knew where she ran to. So muscles can just take a seat with his judgments.

Could not care less about anything Remy, including his brother's case. The brother's case is a good one, but because it's more Remy I don't want to see it. There's already too much Remy as it is. Everyone else just fades into the background with minimal screen time and few lines.

[WendyCR72]

Just a heads up: The season finale is next Tuesday, May 23rd!

[Snazzy Daisy]

S04•E21 - Clean House

It's another dark episode in this season. What happened in this case is really hard to swallow. No one is disposable.

Taking Carlos Morales down won't make any much different as there'll be dozens of other "coyotes" taking over his spot. If Carlos is smart, he should've kept records of all the dirty deeds that Easton has asked him to do.

It's sick to think that Easton's first kill happened decades ago when he's a teen. He is enabled by his wealth and people around him. I don't have any sympathy for the Housekeeping Manager - Alma as she's also an enabler. She can cry all she wants.

One thing that takes me out of this story - both Xiomara and Regina don't look like 15/16yo, more like mid 20s.

Since when "Hana-Banana" has become a thing??! I know Hana is supposed to be a badass hacker. But for her to be able to track this nameless "Mama Cass" in Florida from 25 years ago in less than 24 hours with her current workload, that's kind of far fetched. But hey, anything for macho Remy!  

 

[Andyourlittledog2]

12 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Since when "Hana-Banana" has become a thing??!

I guess the writers think it's fun and friendly but in the workplace, from a superior, it's infantalizing and inappropriate. Like calling the 'genius hacker' on Criminal Minds 'baby girl'. It just sets my teeth on edge. That FBI MW is going that route with Hana makes the show even more of a hate watch for me than the Remy Show has already done. I liked this show before McDermot came on but it just keeps getting worse and worse.

The other FBI shows don't have this issue. Their teams are written as teams and have very even portrayals in terms of air time and dialogue and attention given to them.  The 'main' character - the 'boss' - doesn't overshadow the others in the writing. FBI MW used to be the same. Now that McDermot is on it the writing just focuses on him all the time. I can totally see him reviewing scripts and making 'suggestions' about how he can get more screen time and cooler dialogue and macho action scenes. I'm serious. The whole thing has him written all over it. Just like every other role he plays on TV, at least that I have seen. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

FBI: Most Wanted | 4x22 - "Heaven Falling" (Season Finale)

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The team helps Remy try to catch his brother’s real killer 25 years after Mikey was murdered.

Airdate: May 23, 2023

 

 

[Xeliou66]

Decent season finale - I was never a big fan of this whole case of Remy’s brother, but this was okay - it was kind of underwhelming he was killed in just a drunken argument by his asshole friend, but some murders are rather senseless and do happen like that I guess. It was a good twist that the mom was a murderer too, and I liked seeing Remy go off on her, what a witch. I did think it was odd that Benjy and his mom panicked and went on a spree just because Remy asked a few questions, but I guess they knew that it was all about to catch up to them. I hope the DA who railroaded the innocent guy rots in jail. Not a bad season finale, but I’m glad the stuff with Remy’s brother is wrapped up. 

[preeya]

Uncle Remy.