Bargain Block - General Discussion

[Back Atcha]

On 9/1/2023 at 6:09 AM, Orcinus orca said:

Such an uplifting show compared to the House Hunters that whine about every little thing and think a house is a "gut job" if it's over 10 years old.  

Even worse when they're young buyers looking for a first home.  Get NEW shoppers!  Some with humility.  It's so refreshing when we see (infrequently) couples LIKING so much about the homes they tour. Most NEED to have everything and MORE that their parents have.  Maybe it's because I live in the Phoenix area, but does EVERYONE of you mention "natural light" constantly as being so important?  They all "entertain," too. They never "have people over," or "like to have parties."  We viewers need better scripts.

[chessiegal]

8 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

I like your use of "decoy house."

That's how they are referred to on the HH thread. I can't lay claim to the term.

My stepdaughter said a small crew, camera man, sound, producer, real estate agent, and a couple were there for several hours filming inside and out. The house was badly damaged during Katrina. After some years, the city told the owner he had to do something. The owner renovated it and put it on the market. When HH filmed, the renos were done but no one was living there at the time.

[tljgator]

On 10/3/2024 at 7:15 PM, buttersister said:

And did anyone see that turquoise piece Keith insisted on buying?

I actually noticed the khaki-colored skull that Evan preferred on a lower shelf when they panned around. Guess he won the argument, lol.

[CrazyInAlabama]

"Big Risk in the Big Easy"

Bargain Block New Orleans, Season 1, Episode 1, New, 10/09/2024 (Cable Guide shows this as Season 4, Episode 6)

"Armed with experience flipping decrepit houses, Keith and Evan expand their business to New Orleans and renovate a dilapidated duplex. Between a failing foundation, bees and a spiraling budget, they quickly find out that they aren't in Detroit anymore."

One factor is homes in New Orleans cost a lot.  Tonight's home was $111,000 I think, which is a lot more than anything the men hoave rehabbed in Detroit.  Of course the homes sell for a lot more in New Orleans too.  I really like their local realtor, Pam. 

Maybe moving their business to New Orleans for the winter months will be a good business plan.  

First house- bought for $111,000.  In the Seventh Ward. A double house (double shotgun, duplex), the new owners can rent one side out, and live in the other side.  1650 sq ft total 2 bed 1 bath on each side.   The most concerning issue is the foundation problems, and the huge amount of dead bees (Evan's allergic).  They find the beehive, it's behind the brick facade on the back of the house, and they'll need a pro for removal.   

The men check with Shea for comps.  Comps show $175 to $250 a sq ft.  $180 for $300,000 listing is the goal. They want to add a camelback (a two story addition on the back of both houses) to add square footage.  The one unit will be expanded by taking part of the back of the unit for an additional bath and bedroom.  Then, the camelback will be the 2-story addition adding to the other side.   House should sell for $399,000 with the addition. 

They can't GC in New Orleans, so they hire Charles, a local GC.  The house Charles is working in is a vintage restoration, and it's going to be lovely.   They also have to get an engineer/architect for the plans and the supports needed.   Taking the back old addition off is so much fun.  The differences in foundations between Detroit and New Orleans is amazing.  Keith calls this project the  Creole Cottage.   

On the owner's side of the house, I love the bathroom floor tile.  The porch ironwork is spectacular.   I love this house so much.  Actually, for a smaller family or couple it might make economic sense to live in the smaller unit, and rent the bigger unit for more money.   I love the new kitchen.  I love Keith's mural in the bathroom.   The main suite is huge, with a big walk-in closet, and the ensuite is gorgeous.  The upstairs addition is another big bedroom, and attached bath. 

Purchase price $111,000, reno price $240,000 (I think) and list price supposed to be about $400,000.  Continued next week with the finished rental side of the house.    

Edited October 10 by CrazyInAlabama

[Orcinus orca]

They really lucked out with that GC in NOLA. He seems like he is wonderfully skilled.  But I hope they don't like it in NOLA and come home!

[akg]

18 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

They really lucked out with that GC in NOLA. He seems like he is wonderfully skilled.

He was a great addition. Appreciative of the history and the value of honoring that for Keith but also practical about where to focus and what to save for Evan.

On 10/9/2024 at 11:56 AM, CrazyInAlabama said:

I really like their local realtor, Pam. 

Was she in this week's episode? And is she the same woman they met with during their exploratory weekend? I liked her too and was hoping we'd see more of her. I love Shea, of course, but NOLA isn't her area (literally). The guys need someone who is local.

As much as I prefer the guys in Detroit, I'm enjoying learning about the real estate, history, and customs a new area (the shotgun double concept was new to me. I'm so glad Evan and Keith immediately said the pass through bedroom wasn't going to stay).

I'm not sure what the ratings are for this show but, if they're at all good, HGTV really should look into spin offs. There are a ton of cities who could use this kind of work. Keith and Evan could do the first episode or two to pass on their what they've learned and then let the locals take over. I'd watch them all. My city just took over control of the local land bank from the state and I'm really hoping we have people like Keith and Evan who will work to turn those abandoned houses into homes for people who can't otherwise afford them.

 

[Orcinus orca]

4 hours ago, akg said:

I'm not sure what the ratings are for this show but, if they're at all good, HGTV really should look into spin offs. There are a ton of cities who could use this kind of work. Keith and Evan could do the first episode or two to pass on their what they've learned and then let the locals take over.

Sadly that would not interest me in the least.  There are a crap ton of remodeling shows out there. I watch for the dynamics of Keith and Evan and little else. I love seeing the transformations and some are so artistic but with anyone else it would just be another one a dozen of the same kind of shows with the exception that these kinds of home are way more dilapidated.

[Back Atcha]

23 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

  But I hope they don't like it in NOLA and come home!

I think their TV contract calls for FIVE builds in New Orleans...then back to Detroit for FIVE.

[CrazyInAlabama]

Since they're doing two episodes in Nola, and one for each side of the house, it's five episodes, not five houses.   I thought it was five houses when they announced the Nola series, but  it seems like they're spliting builds up.  

I used to watch The Deed (CNBC) based in New Orleans, and that show talked about single shotguns, double shotguns, and stand alone houses.  It was interesting.   

I thought when they said five episodes, that it meant five houses.   But with double shotgun houses, it really is two separate builds for the first two at least.     They really are the most attractive to buyers there.   And the first side is lovely, and I'm sure the rental side is going to be equally lovely.   

Edited October 12 by CrazyInAlabama

[Back Atcha]

If it's my post, I didn't say "houses."  Any week I can watch a new episode of "Bargain Block," is a GOOD WEEK.  

[auntjess]

Haven't seen a New Orleans one yet, but Nightwatch is my NO show, even if they're reruns.
I like the guys in Detroit.

 

[Back Atcha]

On 10/12/2024 at 7:56 PM, auntjess said:

I like the guys in Detroit.

Same guys.

[Orcinus orca]

2 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Same guys.

Perhaps she means working in Detroit as opposed to in NOLA.  I prefer them there are well.

[auntjess]

19 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Same guys.

But different setting.  I'll watch, and maybe I'll like it.

[chessiegal]

I don't regularly watch this show, but recorded the NOLA episode, mainly because we have family there (Uptown). I got 3/4 of the way through because I had to stop and take care of life. I'll finish, but I found it boring. It took half the episode for them to give a reference to where they were in NOLA. At one point the 7th quarter was mentioned. I think what they meant was the 7th ward, which is near the Treme neighborhood. You could see the elevated I-10 in the background shots which is consistent with that part of the city. Any homes redone in NOLA is a good thing. Last time we visited there were still homes left abandoned after Katrina.

[CrazyInAlabama]

New, 10/16/2024 "Looking to the Stars"   Season 4, Episode 7, (New Orleans second episode)

"Armed with experience flipping decrepit Detroit houses, Keith and Evan expand their business to New Orleans. They're looking to finish renovating the renter's half of a dilapidated duplex, but their budget soon spirals out of control."  From another source: "Keith and Evan work on finishing their renovation on the renter’s half of a dilapidated duplex, but their budget is quickly dwindling."

This is the renter's side of the double shotgun/duplex from last week.   I love how the owner's side of the house came out, and can't wait to see the second side.  

Shea calls and says she's going to visit.   

My concern is the homes in Nola are very expensive, and finishing them up to the standards that will appeal to buyers will be very expensive too.  For a duplex/double they have to do two of everything, electrical, plumbing, furnace and air conditioning.  

Rental side is 1 bed 1 bath. Theme is the Astrology House. They buy a lovely stained glass window for $650. Unfortunately, during installation two panes crack, but they do have a source for replacements.   Julia the original seller, and they were free.  She gave them 8 panels, and they're down to the last one, which stays intact. 

Kitchen cabinets are really nice, and better than the stock ones they use in Detroit.  They're looking for workshop space, and a friend is renting their basement to them.  Then they go to consult a tarot card reader, she gives them good news about investments.  

They're house shopping for the second house.  Another double is possible.  They're consulting Shea about comps, and possible sale price.  She's arriving soon to see the first house, and the new possiblity.   Shea looks so lovely.  I'm not a fan of brass or gold, but I love the kitchen and bathroom fixtures on the owner's side.    I love the bathroom floor on the renter's side. I love the renter's side.  1 bed 1 bath and 650 sq ft on the renter's side, and should rent for $1200 a month, and the owners side is 4 bed 3.5 baths. 

Julia the architectural historian tours the house too.   The tarot card reader visits and says Rose lived there for years, and to have roses and pecan pie for the open house. 

Purchased for $111,000, rehab for both sides $300,000, list price $399,000.  They'll break even , but I hope someone falls in love with the house and pays more.  House still on market when this was filmed.  

 

Edited October 17 by CrazyInAlabama

[buttersister]

I  ❤️ New Orleans. But theme houses there? Well, at least Creole and tarot fit in. Where are we going from here, though?  Plantation style? Voodoo adjacent? Guessing French and Spanish. Many questions about that and the pricing. But we’ll see! Just no moss on the walls, Keith!

Meanwhile, that stained glass window was wonderful. Cute kitchen. But not big, dude.

[Orcinus orca]

I wonder if they put AC in that house.  There was a window AC in one "before" picture.  I can't imagine surviving down there without it.

I can't imagine selling that place and making a profit. It was very nice and the big side would accommodate a family but the neighborhood was pretty awful.  And the climate ratings are bad as well.  But then building a city lower than sea level never made a lick of sense to me.

[CrazyInAlabama]

I suspect they did central air, there is no way they would do window units and expect to sell that house.  

Housing prices in New Orleans are ridiculously high.   If it's not in an area that flooded, they're even more expensive.     I wonder if the extra income from filming episodes and the issues with working in Detroit in winter make it a viable option even without making a profit on the first double house?   

I read today that over the five New Orleans episodes they'll do three houses.   

Edited October 20 by CrazyInAlabama

[Orcinus orca]

10 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Housing prices in New Orleans are ridiculously high.   If it's not in an area that flooded, they're even more expensive.     I wonder if the extra income from filming episodes and the issues with working in Detroit in winter make it a viable option even without making a profit on the first double house?   

Rumors have it that their net worth is between 2 and 5 million.  They own Nine, probably make quite a lot from the show, and apparently do some real estate on the side.

The premise of making money on one flip to finance another is for the show.  That is not to say that they are fake in any way.  They clearly do a lot of the renovation work themselves or at least they did initially.  And it does not change my adoration of them!

[akg]

I loved what they did with the rental unit (the bathroom was gorgeous) but could have used less occult filler. I watch for the remodeling so would have preferred spending that time with their GC (I also didn't need so much about repairing the stained glass).

On 10/11/2024 at 2:55 PM, Orcinus orca said:

Sadly that would not interest me in the least.  There are a crap ton of remodeling shows out there. I watch for the dynamics of Keith and Evan and little else.

Casting would be crucial but the concept of the show is just as interesting to me as the guys. I just wish they'd dig into it more. The house projects are fantastic for the communities and I enjoy seeing that and, if the local Keith and Evans were entertaining, I'd watch blocks being saved in any city they chose.

[buttersister]

I don’t care if they make any profit on these houses if they don't care. There is so much great architecture and history in that city, stay as long as possible. Detroit and New Orleans are worth showcasing!

Keith and Evan adopted their style to the needs of this second city. I’m looking forward to more of that. The comments about the predatory builders after Katrina was heartbreaking. I recall at the time hearing about developers wanting to Disneyfy N.O. Ugh. So many folks had to leave and never returned.

The basement workshop is convenient, ha! 

There are lots of HGTV remodel shows with boring couples and cookie cutter designs in places I don’t care about. It’s tough to break out of that formula but so far, these guys do it.

 

[Back Atcha]

On 10/18/2024 at 8:08 AM, buttersister said:

There are lots of HGTV remodel shows with boring couples and cookie cutter designs in places I don’t care about. It’s tough to break out of that formula but so far, these guys do it.

I love your entire post, Buttersister, and came here to comment only because you DESERVE MORE than a little emoji.  

[BAForever]

On 10/18/2024 at 10:08 AM, buttersister said:

 There are lots of HGTV remodel shows with boring couples and cookie cutter designs in places I don’t care about. It’s tough to break out of that formula but so far, these guys do it.

 

Great post @buttersister! I love that their budgets aren't huge- "real" people can afford their houses. I do miss some of Keith's crazy designs from S1, but love the authentic interactions between Keith and Evan. They are a lovely couple both in business and their relationship. 

Edited October 19 by BAForever

[CrazyInAlabama]

New, 10/23/2024 "Fat Tuesday Skinny Budget" Season 4, Episode 8 (Third New Orleans episode, two more to follow, and then back to Detroit). 

"With lessons learned from their first flip in New Orleans, Keith and Evan bring the energy of the city to their second project and look to incorporate Mardi Gras spirit into the rental side of a decrepit duplex."

This is their second house, another double that will have an owners side, and a renter's side with another camelback. 

Currently 2 bed 1 bath both sides, for sale for $96,000, $250k rehab budget, and list price is $400,000. House is gutted to the studs, so a big savings on demo, but has termite damage. The termites are dry termites, so they only have to bait, not tent.  

House is bigger, and lot is bigger than their first house.  They want the same floorplan as first house, with owner's side 4 bed 3.5 bath, and renter's side 1 bed 1 bath 650 sq ft.  

Renter's side of second house, Mardi Gras theme.  

Poor Keith, the neighbor's rooster is one that crows constantly.  Evan says Keith is a terrible dancer.  Charles the contractor is also a dancer in Mardi Gras parades. 

They are doing another camelback on the house, but because the neighbors are too close they have to demo by hand on the exterior.  They put termite shields on the bottom of the house support piers.  They want to finish the rental unit first, and get buyers looking at it. 

The men are back to staying in the Mardi Gras house to save money.    They're also going to dance in the parade with Charles and the 6 - 10 Stompers.  Evan's doing really well dancing, but Keith is trying very hard, and getting better.   

I really like the renter's side kitchen back splash. They went with a more muted color palette, than the Mardi Gras colors.  

Charles explains reason behind the Haint Blue ceilings on the porches. 

Pam the realtor visits.  I love the finished exterior.  Pam tours the rental unit.  I love the finished rental unit.  What a great kitchen they built with tons of storage.  Bathroom is lovely.  Pam estimates rental is $1500 to $1550.  

 

After three weeks on the market there are no offers on Creole cottage, house #1.  House doesn't have dedicated parking, so price adjustment to $375,000 happens. Some streets are better than others for street parking.   They finally get an offer on Creola and Astrology house #1, for $369,000. 

 

 

Edited October 26 by CrazyInAlabama

[MsJamieDornan]

Keith talking about Charles being a stripper was hilarious.

[Orcinus orca]

I was not surprised that they took a loss on that first house but entering a new market was a learning experience. Plus, as they said, in Detroit they have a warehouse with "leftovers" that can be used and everything in NOLA had to be purchased.  It remains to be seen if Keith can be reined in, he's the one that has trouble keeping on budget.

Watching Keith dance was hilarious!  My friend had the same sense of rhythm that he has, it was pitiful to watch her. 

I never fail to laugh at their banter.

So far, the homes have been bland, in my opinion.

[buttersister]

What else remains to be seen is whether they can find properties with parking. 

[Orcinus orca]

1 hour ago, buttersister said:

What else remains to be seen is whether they can find properties with parking. 

That whole thing is kind of ridiculous.  In the older neighborhoods of Chicago (and many historic cites) there are many neighborhoods with only on-street parking; what are they supposed to do, elevate the house and put a garage underneath?

[auntjess]

Lack of parking would be a deal breaker for me.  

It can be a great house, but if you have a hard time finding a place to park, every time you come home, I wouldn't buy it.
I'm pretty sure that in New Orleans you couldn't dig down, you'd have to find a place ground level or higher.

 

[sheetmoss]

I was surprised that neither rental unit had another exit

Also, any word out there about Evan's weight loss?

[auntjess]

46 minutes ago, sheetmoss said:

I was surprised that neither rental unit had another exit

That is strange, I'd think code would require it.  Maybe the windows are big enough and low enough, to provide easy egress.
I want to see Keith's funky designs, that my favorite part of their shows.

 

[Kindred Spirit]

I'm sad that Keith and Evan are going to take a loss on the first double. I would have thought Charles might have mentioned the parking problem to them, since he knows the area so much better than our newbies. I hope the issue won't take too big a bite out of their margins on the new project, though I'm pretty floored that they're doing well enough to absorb that big a hit. It's definitely nice to see them doing better, financially, than in the early seasons. I'm sure they're grateful that everything isn't always on a shoe string, any more.

A part of me misses the color and quirk of the early Detroit houses, but I'm happy that they're adapting and growing, and recognizing that at the higher price points, people prefer pretty and/or luxurious. Nothing they do looks builder grade, and Keith is allergic to bland, so there's always something in the permanent parts of the house that has flair, even if it isn't as vibrant as we, and Keith, might like.

[Back Atcha]

1 hour ago, Kindred Spirit said:

I'm sad that Keith and Evan are going to take a loss on the first double. I would have thought Charles might have mentioned the parking problem to them, since he knows the area so much better than our newbies.

Yeah!  And MORE responsible...how 'bout that "local expert" they spoke to before even buying the property?  

[Back Atcha]

On 10/24/2024 at 10:28 AM, sheetmoss said:

Also, any word out there about Evan's weight loss?

I didn't pay close attention, so I can't remember where I read it: that both of them were on a weight-loss plan.  Don't know if it was their plan or something "professional."  I was shocked at Evan's appearance and (perhaps) more hair loss "spots."  We worry about him...about them.

Internet info on his Alopecia Areata:   "Evan first noticed small spots on his head when he was around four years old.  In year six, large patches of his hair began to fall out. By year seven, he had more patches than hair and decided to shave it off.  Evan's family faced many stressors in 2021, including his younger brother's brain tumor diagnosis and his mother's pregnancy complications. Evan and his mom believe that the stressful situation may have triggered the onset of his alopecia." 

[Back Atcha]

On 10/24/2024 at 4:35 AM, Orcinus orca said:

It remains to be seen if Keith can be reined in, he's the one that has trouble keeping on budget.

There's also "drama" for the sake of good television.   Keith is also a businessman; if reining in is called for, I'd bet it's not a struggle.

On another show, "Unsellable Houses," the twin sisters had unexpected water damage within the house...repairs adding $18,000 to their small budget.  They also looked to their warehouse to find tile, and other leftover materials in their warehouse.  The design changed a little, but they whittled down that $18K mightily.

[CrazyInAlabama]

A Second Chance in NOLA  Season 4, Episode 9

New, 10/30/2024,  (or NOLA Season 1, Episode 4) HGTV can’t decide how to number these.

“Keith and Evan are forced to dig themselves out of a financial hole after losing money on their first flip in NOLA. Now, they aim to turn a dilapidated double into a traditional treasure by incorporating all the grand elements found in the Big Easy”

First house sold low.   Second house owners side this week, they finished the renter's side (Mardi Gras Theme) last week.  Owner's side is a traditional New Orleans theme to restore the character that was lost to termite damage.   

To save money they're doing a lot themselves, like fixing the yard landscaping, kitchen installation, tile work, painting.    They're putting a back deck.  Unfortunately no private parking space, but the neighborhood doesn't look as crowded as the first house street parking was. 

Keith points out with the size of the houses in New Orleans, they cost more to rehab, and everything has to be duplicated and separate, with two electrical, two HVAC, etc. Plus, costs to purchase are much higher than Detroit too. 

I love the owner's side back splash tile in the kitchen. Keith says affordable in New Orleans is $400,000 and lower, and for Detroit it is $200,000 and lower.   They want to put an antique table instead of an island in the kitchen.   The owner's side of the house is spectacular.  Pam the local realtor tours the owner's side.  The arches they added look classic and lovely.  I love both sides of the house, and the back deck is huge.   The  downstairs bedroom or office has an ensuite.  There's another main bedroom with ensuite upstairs. 

Shea sent them a listing for a possible third house. This house is a double, 2 bed 1 bath each side $85,000 total price, with a space next to the house to park on, so private dedicated parking.  There is someone living in the one side of the house.  Second side of the house is wrecked. 

They're still going to join the 610 Stompers for the parade.   They're going to be wearing short shorts for the parade.  Charles , Keith and Evan and the rest of the dancers look so adorable.   The other 610 Stompers are so welcoming to Keith and Evan. 

 

House #2 purchased for $96,000 , rehab cost $? missed this , list price is $396,000 (I hope I got that right).

Edited October 31 by CrazyInAlabama

[chessiegal]

55 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

HGTV can’t decide how to number these.

I wonder if they're using filming order. Shows don't always air episodes in the order they were filmed. Just a thought.

[Orcinus orca]

The listings are quite confusing for sure.  I just DVR everything new and figure I will hit them all at some point.

[CrazyInAlabama]

On 10/30/2024 at 12:57 PM, chessiegal said:

I wonder if they're using filming order. Shows don't always air episodes in the order they were filmed. Just a thought.

I mean where they have the NOLA episodes numbered as a stand alone, but then other times number them consecutively with the Detroit season.  Yes, they often show them out of order too, which is fine unless they refer to something from an episode that happened previously, but hasn't aired.   

Edited November 2 by CrazyInAlabama

[Orcinus orca]

For that matter, the Detroit episodes can be all over the place - one episode it's hot, then next they are plodding through the snow followed by autumn leaves.  I am guessing they have several projects going simultaneously and they piece segments together as they move from place to place.

[CrazyInAlabama]

Yes, they've shown the Detroit episodes out of order too, but they number them in the filming order, at least sometimes. 

[auntjess]

When will they be back in Detroit?  Soon, I hope.

[CrazyInAlabama]

6 hours ago, auntjess said:

When will they be back in Detroit?  Soon, I hope.

One more New Orleans episode, and then back to Detroit.    Don't know if there will be a break before they show the 5 remaining Detroit episodes. 

[Orcinus orca]

Oh, dear, poor Keith. He wasn't kidding when he said he couldn't dance.  It was funny and pitiful at the same time!

[Back Atcha]

4 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

Oh, dear, poor Keith. He wasn't kidding when he said he couldn't dance.

If he wants to learn, he should see a private teacher.  He/She can determine immediately if he has rhythm (the first requirement).  I thought he looked like had possibilities; he'd just avoided it for so long...so sinful, you know.

[topanga]

On 10/30/2024 at 10:05 PM, Orcinus orca said:

Oh, dear, poor Keith. He wasn't kidding when he said he couldn't dance.  It was funny and pitiful at the same time!

Keith didn't look awful, though. He kept moving, which made his mistakes less conspicuous. 

Evan is a great dancer. I know he's gay, but I find him sexy. 😋

 

On 10/24/2024 at 1:28 PM, sheetmoss said:

Also, any word out there about Evan's weight loss?

I guess I didn't notice. Evan never looked overweight to me. 

 

On 10/30/2024 at 3:38 PM, auntjess said:

When will they be back in Detroit?  Soon, I hope.

I miss seeing Shea every week, but I like the change of setting. I do hope that the 2nd house sells well. And they're looking for their third house, I think. 

[MsJamieDornan]

15 hours ago, topanga said:

And they're looking for their third house, I think. 

I think they mentioned they purchased a third one, the one they looked at.

[akg]

I thought it was interesting that Keith mentioned proving that their methods would work in New Orleans and I wondered if that was for them to keep coming back or to encourage locals to start doing what they do.

21 hours ago, topanga said:

I guess I didn't notice. Evan never looked overweight to me. 

I agree but he's lost a lot of weight recently and looks too skinny. Especially now that he's not bundled up for Michigan weather.

6 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:

I think they mentioned they purchased a third one, the one they looked at.

The one with someone living in one half and the crazy amount of mold on the second.

I'm curious how this week's episode is going to go since they apparently won't be splitting the two halves into separate hours.

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that Max has this series for streaming. HGTV keeps telling me I don't have access so it's a struggle each week. Max was much easier.

[chessiegal]

My husband will be in NOLA later this week. If I was going with him, I'd try to find out where the houses are to see them in person, but I'm not. He has no interest in looking at them. ☹️