FormerMod-a1 April 15, 2020 Share April 15, 2020 Quote Karen celebrates her baseball team's championship; Will and Grace go to an open house, which leads to a conversation about their future living arrangement; Jack has to decide if he wants to stay in the city to pursue his dreams. Original air date: April 16, 2020 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/
Annber03 April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 Nice to see Yvette Nicole Brown! I like that house. The ending was cute. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6069818
woodstock April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 Loved seeing Yvette Nicole Brown. What was Grace wearing?! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6069831
Blakeston April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 I expected those imaginary kids at the end to start chanting "red rum." 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070085
KWalkerInc April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 Yvette Nicole Brown was great. But this Karen/Stan "true love" is completely lazy bullshit. Maybe they should have just written Karen out earlier in the season when there were problems. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070156
Harvey April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 I kept expecting Sandra Bunrheart to appear when Will and Grace went to look at a house. It would have been the ultimate cameo and an amazing continuation of an old joke, she could have cussed them out again 🤣 I hope you guys remember her scenes from the show, they were so good. 1 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070283
Annber03 April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 Oh, damn, yes, that would've been a fantastic callback. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070284
iMonrey April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 I knew that's where they were headed as soon as we found out Grace put in an offer. And I wonder if Karen is going to wind up going back to Stanley. Seems like the whole season is going to end up in a reset. I did get a kick out of the tiny Karen statue and her wanting to pleasure herself with it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070863
Snow Apple April 17, 2020 Share April 17, 2020 I thought the statue was more tasteful than a large tacky life size thing. And this one can be more, um, useful to Karen. 5 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6070883
Gothish520 April 18, 2020 Share April 18, 2020 Am I the only one who wants the show to continue with everyone living in that small town? Probably, but I don't care! 😁 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6071664
OpalNightstream April 18, 2020 Share April 18, 2020 That was a lot happening in the course of a few hours. Jack was recognized and his ceremony complete with hands in the cement happen. Grace sees a house and makes an offer without any research into the area, thought to logistics with her life or an inspection. Yes I know it’s a sitcom! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6071699
ahpny April 18, 2020 Share April 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Gothish520 said: Am I the only one who wants the show to continue with everyone living in that small town? Probably, but I don't care! 😁 And if they did this, they could continue the whole "I Love Lucy" homage with the "Lucy" phase when the Ricardos moved to Connecticut. However, no town "a 40 minute train ride north of New York City" is in "upstate New York." That would put you in mid-Westchester - about as suburban as is comes. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6072533
Bill1978 April 18, 2020 Share April 18, 2020 I found this episode to be a little flat, it felt more like an episode where it's primary purpose wasn't to entertain but to move all the characters into position for the final episode. Having said that I will admit Karen's response to her statue was the highlight of the episode and one of the funniest things Karen has said in a very long time. And as we get closer to the final episode I am left scratching my head to why they decided to make the original finale and all connecting plot points a dream, if we are going to just end up at the same spot. The only thing I can conclude is they were happy with how Grace and Will ended up (and therefore repeating the kids plot) but weren't happy with how Jack and Karen ended up and are therefore fixing up their end point, 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6072689
Gothish520 April 19, 2020 Share April 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Bill1978 said: I found this episode to be a little flat, it felt more like an episode where it's primary purpose wasn't to entertain but to move all the characters into position for the final episode. Having said that I will admit Karen's response to her statue was the highlight of the episode and one of the funniest things Karen has said in a very long time. And as we get closer to the final episode I am left scratching my head to why they decided to make the original finale and all connecting plot points a dream, if we are going to just end up at the same spot. The only thing I can conclude is they were happy with how Grace and Will ended up (and therefore repeating the kids plot) but weren't happy with how Jack and Karen ended up and are therefore fixing up their end point, I think they are redoing the ending the way many feel it should have been done in the first place - with Will and Grace still friends, in each other's lives and raising their children together. They don't necessarily have to live together, but after everything they have meant to each other, they belong together as friends. I am here for it! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6073823
luna1122 April 20, 2020 Share April 20, 2020 Grace was wearing a $700 dress, but all I could wonder is if the wardrobe person hates her as much as Megan M. supposedly does. And gold spike heeled boots with it? wtf. I kind of hate them leaving NYC. but that house is cute. How are they going to support themselves? What does Will even do now, anyway? I know you can be an interior designer anywhere, but I'd think opportunities would be a lot less lucrative and frequent in a small town. Or maybe she'll still do NYC jobs..it's not that far...I'm thinking about this way too much. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6076593
Harvey April 20, 2020 Share April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, luna1122 said: Grace was wearing a $700 dress, but all I could wonder is if the wardrobe person hates her as much as Megan M. supposedly does. And gold spike heeled boots with it? wtf. It has been a thing since season 1 that Grace has a bad fashion sense and doesn't dress well. Karen often pointed this out through the series and Val did too in the AA episode when Grace pretended to be an alcoholic. Quote How are they going to support themselves? What does Will even do now, anyway? People commute all the time and it's fine. Will is a law professor at an university but he is also rich and has lots of saved up money they can probably lean on that as well. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6076606
luna1122 April 20, 2020 Share April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Harvey said: It has been a thing since season 1 that Grace has a bad fashion sense and doesn't dress well. Karen often pointed this out through the series and Val did too in the AA episode when Grace pretended to be an alcoholic. People commute all the time and it's fine. Will is a law professor at an university but he is also rich and has lots of saved up money they can probably lean on that as well. I never took that joke particularly seriously til I saw this dress. I'd totally forgotten what Will was doing for a living now. He's a professor? I don't think I even remembered/knew that. Thanks. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6076610
Bill1978 April 20, 2020 Share April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, luna1122 said: Grace was wearing a $700 dress, but all I could wonder is if the wardrobe person hates her as much as Megan M. supposedly does. And gold spike heeled boots with it? wtf. And the make up person. I follow Debra Messing on Instagram and she never looks like she does on the show. Maybe Megan is the wardrobe department. I've been watching episodes from the original run and while Grace's fashion sense has been questionable a number of times, they at least were always flattering outfits. The re-watch has also made me realise how much I enjoyed Will's relationship with Vince and it's a shame that it is no longer end game. I can take or leave Leo ending with Grace, and honestly I feel it's better she didn't settle with Leo, but Will now not ending up with Vince doesn't seem right. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6076881
KWalkerInc April 21, 2020 Share April 21, 2020 13 hours ago, luna1122 said: I'd totally forgotten what Will was doing for a living now. He's a professor? I don't think I even remembered/knew that. They would do some stories with it last season (like Karen's stepdaughter being in his class or some of the students giving him chocolate milk spiked with drugs), but barely mentioned it this season. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6077995
KWalkerInc April 21, 2020 Share April 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Bill1978 said: The re-watch has also made me realise how much I enjoyed Will's relationship with Vince and it's a shame that it is no longer end game. I can take or leave Leo ending with Grace, and honestly I feel it's better she didn't settle with Leo, but Will now not ending up with Vince doesn't seem right. I liked Will and Vince together too. I couldn't stand Leo (a friend would always quote Karen about him, "He don't make me laugh!"), and I didn't like how they forced him into the show and had Grace marry him without even waiting to see if the audience accepted him. I guess they were determined to have her get married right then without taking the time to build a relationship. It made sense that it ultimately didn't work out, but then they had to ruin it by bringing him back in the end of the original run. The writers tend to go back to certain things over and over, hence Karen and Stan. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6077999
Harvey April 21, 2020 Share April 21, 2020 I agree that Leo wasn't that amazing. The show mentioned again and again how hot he was, and while he was handsome, it wasn't some out of this world beauty. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/108107-s11e17-new-crib/#findComment-6078891
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