S03.E20: Burn It All Down

[jewel21]

Please note that this will be the season finale.

Just when Derek's condition seems to be improving, a severe complication arises, causing Kit to fear that he may be the latest victim of Cain's cover-up. When Cain's former girlfriend is admitted to the hospital for surgery, the doctors finally get a glimpse into his personal life. Meanwhile, Conrad fills in Marshall on the emergency situation facing the hospital and Mina and The Raptor work on saving the heart of a salsa dancer.

Airdate:04/07/2020

[KittenPokerCheater]

That was the most tepid season finale I've seen so far.

Poor show.  I wonder what they had planned for the rest of the season.

[Ohwell]

So Cain had a torn ACL which ruined his chances at a pro football career, and that turned him into a first class asshole.  Yeah, ok.  Cry me a river.

I don't know how much more Kit's poor son-in-law can take.  I think the writers gave him too many ailments and I hope this is the end of his suffering.  

So Mina's jealous.  Too bad.  I hope Raptor and the other woman (forgot her name) work out because I like them together.

And Conrad:  please, please don't fall for Red Rock dude's spiel.  You can see now that he'll throw anyone under the bus when things get hot.   

Edited April 8, 2020 by Ohwell

[Lady Calypso]

I mean...for an unplanned season finale, it wasn't a bad one, per say. At least it wasn't filler, but there were definitely a lot of open doors for the beginning of next season. 

Of course, they try to give Cain a half sob backstory, coupled with his dead ex by his own hand, along with Red Rock Rep deciding to throw him under the bus to choose Conrad as the face of the hospital. That doesn't make me feel bad for him, and I hope the show isn't actually trying to get me to sympathize with him. Cain is an asshole, full stop. He actually deserves what he's getting. It just sucks for the woman who died on his watch because he couldn't get anyone else to do her surgery BEFORE things went south.

But at least Kit's son in law lived, so yay? I'm guessing he'll regain at least most of his sight. It WOULD be interesting if he didn't, but I kind of want Kit to get a win, because she deserves it.

Mina's jealous of AJ's relationship with his girlfriend. Well, I guess it's now or never to wind things up with the love triangle there. Mina/AJ have been hinted at for a couple of seasons and I don't really want it to be dragged out if that's where they are heading.

Conrad...don't do it, Conrad. Unless you have a plan to take down Red Rock Rep, don't fall for his spiel. I can't imagine that he does. He's not stupid; he knows what Logan Kim is capable of.

[preeya]

6 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Of course, they try to give Cain a half sob backstory, coupled with his dead ex by his own hand, along with Red Rock Rep deciding to throw him under the bus to choose Conrad as the face of the hospital. That doesn't make me feel bad for him, and I hope the show isn't actually trying to get me to sympathize with him. Cain is an asshole, full stop. He actually deserves what he's getting. It just sucks for the woman who died on his watch because he couldn't get anyone else to do her surgery BEFORE things went south.

Kharma's a bitch and then your patient dies. Too bad Cain, but you got what you deserved, only not enough.

Don't take the bait,  Conrad.

[Zoe]

Not too bad of a stopping point. At least it's not a huge cliffhanger.

I've complained in the past about how comically evil the villains are in this show with no redeeming qualities, but now that they're trying to humanize Cain, it's too little too late.

[Court]

2 hours ago, Zoe said:

Not too bad of a stopping point. At least it's not a huge cliffhanger.

I've complained in the past about how comically evil the villains are in this show with no redeeming qualities, but now that they're trying to humanize Cain, it's too little too late.

Exactly. This humanizing should have been built in from the beginning. 

[Lady Calypso]

8 hours ago, Court said:

Exactly. This humanizing should have been built in from the beginning. 

At the very least, it should have been built WAY earlier than episode 20. Maybe episode 7, if they wanted to make him a  full villain for a few episodes. MAYBE episode 10. But this late in the game? Who cares if Cain's feeling sad now and finally called a Time of Death because he finally saw his patient as a human being? 

Hopefully, he IS gone next season. I know he'll have to return to at least wrap up this final arc, but hopefully they haven't planned to keep him around, because I am SO done with him.

[cathmed]

I knew Derrick wouldn't die or the salsa guy.   Everyone's saved except Cain's ex - will they explore his backstory further (or was her "summary" sufficient?).  Clearly, Logan Kim just threw him under the bus and has Conrad in his sights to take over.   Of course, don't trust Logan, Conrad, but I remember Marshall's conversation with Conrad about the "dark" side. - prophetic words or just a red herring??   Will Cain finally see he was just a useless tool for Red Rock and turn to the good side like Bell--who you shouldn't forget was unscrupulous, arrogant and devious but has now done a complete 180🤣

Poor Mina and Raptor- bad timing!

Does anyone know if there will be another episode or was this it for the season??

[cathmed]

11 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

Of course, they try to give Cain a half sob backstory, coupled with his dead ex by his own hand, along with Red Rock Rep deciding to throw him under the bus to choose Conrad as the face of the hospital. That doesn't make me feel bad for him, and I hope the show isn't actually trying to get me to sympathize with him. Cain is an asshole, full stop. He actually deserves what he's getting. It just sucks for the woman who died on his watch because he couldn't get anyone else to do her surgery BEFORE things went south.

Understand what you're saying about Cain but is he really any worse than Bell was in the first 3 seasons (or when ever the Quo Vadis story arc ended)?   As I posted, Bell was a megalomaniac-- unscrupulous, arrogant, manipulative, untouchable, and devious-- but he's done a complete 180 and is hardly recognizable as the antagonist Conrad and everyone else was fighting against and pretty much hated.   He's somehow become the acceptable, benevolent one and everyone trusts and "loves" him (his HODAD skills seem to have vanished, been forgotten, or resolved).  No matter, it will be interesting to see how this Cain arc plays out next season.

[Ohwell]

I liked the salsa guy and I'm glad he had a happy ending.  I loved him and Raptor dancing.

One more thing about MIna.  For so long, Raptor treated her like the Queen of the Sun and she friend zoned him, which was fine if that's how she felt.  Now that he's met someone else, she's all butt hurt.  I really, really hope the writers don't turn this into a love triangle.   

[Lady Calypso]

22 minutes ago, cathmed said:

Understand what you're saying about Cain but is he really any worse than Bell was in the first 3 seasons (or when ever the Quo Vadis story arc ended)?   As I posted, Bell was a megalomaniac-- unscrupulous, arrogant, manipulative, untouchable, and devious-- but he's done a complete 180 and is hardly recognizable as the antagonist Conrad and everyone else was fighting against and pretty much hated.   He's somehow become the acceptable, benevolent one and everyone trusts and "loves" him (his HODAD skills seem to have vanished, been forgotten, or resolved).  No matter, it will be interesting to see how this Cain arc plays out next season.

I understand this. I hated Bell in season 1 and most of season 2. 

I think what makes this different is more the fact that Bell was the FIRST asshole cocky surgeon-turned-protagonist and, since then, we've had at least two or three other people to follow that same route. AJ for sure, as I didn't like AJ until midway through last season, as well as Marshall, who I'm still not fond of. Not to mention how many bureaucratic antagonists we've had in three seasons. So, with Cain, he just falls into the category of "Oh, ANOTHER one they will try to redeem?" And I'm just tired of characters like this. It worked with Bell just because they gave it time and didn't just have him go from villain to hero in one season. It has taken Bell two full seasons, if not two and a half. 

It's just repetition that doesn't make me want to see any more Cain after this. If the show hadn't followed very similar paths in these three seasons with their antagonists (thank god for Hunter, who stayed a villain until her death), maybe I would be more interested in Cain. But his character does not interest me in any way because they're going down a redemption route and I'd rather he just left the hospital. 

[preeya]

53 minutes ago, cathmed said:

Does anyone know if there will be another episode or was this it for the season??

From what I've read, this episode was the season finale.

[bros402]

On 4/8/2020 at 10:38 AM, preeya said:

From what I've read, this episode was the season finale.

Yeah, this was the season finale due to COVID - they were going to have two more episodes this season before production shut down.

This was a serviceable episode for a season finale. 

I hope Kit's son-in-law has a happier path from here - and I am glad they didn't show the eye injection - I know they exist, I know they are done for a variety of stuff, but ughhhh just the idea of it gives me the heebies jeebies.

[yourdreamer]

I am curious if that prostitution Bell never reported to the medical powers that be will come back to bite him in the butt when everybody has been loving on him for a while now. 
 

The episode was fine, but I wish AJ and Mina were together, honestly. 

[Gregg247]

So between Dr. Cain and his evil minion, who should get the redemption arc and who should go out as a total villain? 

As noted above, I think we have enough jerk (or former jerk) doctors on this show.  I wouldn't mind seeing Evil Minion get humiliated and forced to work within the Chastain system as kind of a weaselly "gray" character hospital administrator who everyone can complain about and ridicule. 

I'd be happy to see Dr. Cain drummed out of medicine and off the show.  He's just so completely dick-esh that I don't think he can ever turn the corner and be the "caring compassionate" doctor that Conrad demands of his co-workers.

[bros402]

11 hours ago, Gregg247 said:

So between Dr. Cain and his evil minion, who should get the redemption arc and who should go out as a total villain? 

As noted above, I think we have enough jerk (or former jerk) doctors on this show.  I wouldn't mind seeing Evil Minion get humiliated and forced to work within the Chastain system as kind of a weaselly "gray" character hospital administrator who everyone can complain about and ridicule. 

I'd be happy to see Dr. Cain drummed out of medicine and off the show.  He's just so completely dick-esh that I don't think he can ever turn the corner and be the "caring compassionate" doctor that Conrad demands of his co-workers.

Cain is irredeemable - should go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Red Rock Finance Guy, I could see Conrad's dad using him, since Conrad's dad isn't above shady stuff - he could always use a good hatchet man.