Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[One Tough Cookie]

6 hours ago, boes said:

 

6 hours ago, boes said:

ndeed, invite Victor on a picnic with Harrison.  Every little boy needs to watch a vampire vaporize when exposed to sunlight.  With any luck, it'll happen before he starts reciting the story of his parents flinging him from a moving car into the orphanage.  What child won't enjoy that??

speechless

 

45 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So The Red Beast & her boobies shoved at us are “boring”?

no they are flapjacks, remember?

And it looked liked  Damien was wearing a silk undershirt under his jacket?

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

53 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So The Red Beast & her boobies shoved at us are “boring”?

Yes, they're boring into our brains and leaving deposits of WTFery.

[babyhouseman]

20 hours ago, Kemper said:

Tamara Tooney/Tuney? She was the medical examiner on Law and Order. I loved her on there and love her more on this soap. 

She was great on As the World Turns. That was before L and O.

[Joimiaroxeu]

20 hours ago, Kemper said:

It would seem that Show is grooming Claire to take over when Victor departs. Possibly in lieu of Victoria. 

That's been my theory too. I don't know about Victor departing though, at least not voluntarily. There will probably be some kind of coup.

20 hours ago, Kemper said:

Is it me... or is there no "there" there with her. The actress.  She is attractive. But her face is usually blank/doesn't move that much. Not due to plastic surgery; just her normal state. And she speaks in mostly a monotone. Anyone else feel this?

I'm choosing to believe it's the characterization they've written for Claire. She's supposed to be a vulnerable naif. However, I think it's mostly a ruse until Claire can get all the Newmans under her thumb. She pretty much already has the Abbotts in line except Billy and that's only because she's not on his radar.

[One Tough Cookie]

16 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

That's been my theory too. I don't know about Victor departing though, at least not voluntarily. There will probably be some kind of coup.

He could charter a cruise vessel and accidently fall off.

 

16 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

That's been my theory too. I don't know about Victor departing though, at least not voluntarily. There will probably be some kind of coup

Maybe that's Claire's agenda--she was in it for the long game?

eta maybe he will take Claire as a welcome to the family gesture and because she is the newest member of the family   she will throw him overboard.

Edited Tuesday at 11:19 PM by One Tough Cookie

[Waldo13]

Why is Billy👃 so sure that Victor will be beaten by Aristotle?  Doesn’t Billy👃 know that it’s written in the script that Victor doesn’t loose?  The last bidding war, between the two titans of industry, Victor possibly didn’t loose, he let Aristotle win.  

Why is Lily so sure Aristotle is coming after Winters?  Is it just paranoia or just a passing comment to her from Victor?  Also why would Lily think that Damian will be loyal to her over his loyalty to Aristotle?  Is Lily bribing Damian with her panties?  

I thought Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 took Sally’s phone. It serves Billy👃 right that he used DD’s birthday as his password. It didn’t take that wonderful hacker to get into Billy👃’s in a few seconds.  I can’t remember, if ever, I can root for Manic Pathetic Phyllis to side with Victor to bring down Billy’s plan. 

 

 

[Sake614]

56 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

don't know about Victor departing though, at least not voluntarily.

EB will literally die on this show before he leaves. Like on camera. And even then he’ll be running NE and terrorizing his family and perceived enemies. 
 

 

[NinjaPenguins]

16 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

EB will literally die on this show before he leaves. Like on camera. And even then he’ll be running NE and terrorizing his family and perceived enemies. 
 

 

This show will probably use a Victor hologram in perpetuity. Speaking of the devil, as much as I loathe the Phyllis character, I care even less for the way Victor aggressively stepped into her space. Keep your distance, foul misogynist.

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

This show will probably use a Victor hologram in perpetuity. Speaking of the devil, as much as I loathe the Phyllis character, I care even less for the way Victor aggressively stepped into her space. Keep your distance, foul misogynist.

Please don’t give them any ideas!

[Denize]

The way Mariah is acting, it sounds like what she did was the worst thing anyone could imagine. So my imagination wondered if she got drunk with Ian and gave him the wedding night he always wanted (when he first found Mariah in GC years ago, he told her he kept the wedding dress he got for her).

[surfgirl]

Because it needs to be said on the regular, Lily is THE worst 'businesswoman' on earth. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

So is The Red Beast spiraling toward insanity — or is she already there?  So let’s see, first, she’s boppin’ around in GC in her boobies-baring tighty-tight get-up, then she lied yesterday to Billy & Sally about going into biz with Daniel, when we know he rejected this repeatedly.

Now, Billy & Sally clearly couldn’t care less what she was caw-caw-caw-ing about.  But going to Vic with this scattered bullshit nonsense?  That was nuts!  Only a loon would ask a billionaire to invest in a “plan” that was so obviously a bunch of nothing.  But then again, she gave me a hearty chuckle about how she “worked” for Abbott Communications, a biz which DOES NOT EXIST!!

And yeah, Red Beast, go stalk & harass Doo-mah’s asst — he’ll really wanna call ya back!  That is, if he actually exists, or the part has been (or ever will be) cast.

Oh yeah, Audra, g’head, hun & tell Natey why ya haven’t gotten any dough from Vic!  C’mon, sweetie, tell Natey ya haven’t yet fulfilled your part of the prostitute deal ya got goin’ with Vic.

The Amy stuff was white noise & a blur.  Ignored all of it except for noticing Amy’s wig was crooked today.  Bleh to all of it.

[pvandal]

I'm sure this is too out there but does anyone else think Dumas is Victor and he's just playing a game watching everyone chase their tails for his amusement?

[boes]

25 minutes ago, pvandal said:

I'm sure this is too out there but does anyone else think Dumas is Victor and he's just playing a game watching everyone chase their tails for his amusement?

No.  The idea is too clever for these writers.  

[Kemper]

52 minutes ago, pvandal said:

I'm sure this is too out there but does anyone else think Dumas is Victor and he's just playing a game watching everyone chase their tails for his amusement?

Actually, this would be brilliant! I love it. Pvandal, you should be writing this soap.  I have no idea why Victor would be doing this....but a good (even decent) writer could have a field day with a script.

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

I have no idea why Victor would be doing this....but a good (even decent) writer could have a field day with a script.

Just to fuck with everyone's head.

Producers, I have a bone to pick with you,  Audra was a hard charging business woman who took no shit from anyone,  and wore fab bod con dress so WHY have you down graded her to merely  being forced into banging PLOMP to start a business {which I highly doubt will never get off the ground}?

Now she's turned into NATE'S ARM CANDY. She she's been on for over a year and she no back story, At least both Diane and Claire have a past, so why not Audra?

[ScoobieDoobs]

Ugh, it pains me to say it, really does, but writers have turned Audra into such a loser now.  In the Amy storyline, she’s so nauseatingly icky sweet.  Yuck, this ain’t the Audra I wanna see.  And this gross deal with Vic?  Yuck again.  Why would ANY self-respecting woman agree to such a sleazy deal?  Unless Audra can actually work this awfulness into a legit biz for herself & screw over Vic at the same time, I hate all of this & what the writers have done to this character!

Oh btw, what the heck ever happened to cough-cough Cole?  Is he dying or what?

Got a bit of a giggle from Billy calling Adam a chihuahua.  Oh Chelsea, you moron, are ya finally realizing the freakin’ mess you’ve willingly (and really stupidly) plopped yourself in the middle of?  Guess she’ll be turning on the waterworks endlessly once again . . .

Edited 22 hours ago by ScoobieDoobs

[One Tough Cookie]

I was just thinking, along with many attributes Gradmpire is a PIMP.

[boes]

Phyllis going begging to Victor is wrong in so many ways.  Bad enough that we had to see the two worst characters in Genoa City share several scenes, but to have Phyllis grovel and try to wheedle something from Victor, the man who set her up to be systematically raped for months when he replaced Jack with his doppelganger was disgusting.

As much as I can't stand Phyllis, having her, in any way, ask Victor for help is almost as bad as him daring to be dismissive and contemptuous towards the woman he violated so badly. 

Show sometimes seems to think that they can just ignore old storylines but that one is just too big to forget, and too important of one with the way it affected so many characters and relationships.  Victor will forever be indebted to Phyllis for what he did and she can and should forever hold him in the utmost contempt.  Today was a bad move on Show's part IMO.

So Amy's treatment is working and she's back.

Hooray......??

I think those scenes raised my blood sugar.  Can she celebrate by getting a new wig?

How exciting that everyone gets a new job and yet nobody knows what the hell it actually is.

[Js Nana]

On 5/13/2025 at 5:48 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

So The Red Beast & her boobies shoved at us are “boring”?

To me, yes - sad, pathetic and BORING.

[Js Nana]

On 5/13/2025 at 6:57 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think it's mostly a ruse until Claire can get all the Newmans under her thumb.

I don't think Claire's actually out to stab anyone in the back, it's just that she seems to be so much more intelligent than anyone else in the Newman family, including Victor - If the show survives that long, I think Claire will end up running the show, just because she's got the smarts to do it.

On 5/13/2025 at 7:12 PM, Waldo13 said:

it’s written in the script that Victor doesn’t loose

I think I heard somewhere that it's written in EB's contract that Victor always wins.

[Joimiaroxeu]

"He started it." How old are you, Adam, 12?

Billy, Adam wasn't raised by Victor. He came to GC a fully-formed adult and eventually chose become Victor's lap dog. But IMO you made some good points against Adam otherwise.

Why was Red attempting to distract Victor  by waving her cleavage at him? Phyllis' wannabe rack is no match for Nikki's. Victor can get that at home.

19 hours ago, Denize said:

The way Mariah is acting, it sounds like what she did was the worst thing anyone could imagine. So my imagination wondered if she got drunk with Ian and gave him the wedding night he always wanted (when he first found Mariah in GC years ago, he told her he kept the wedding dress he got for her).

This is the sound of my head spinning off my body and landing on Pluto. If Mariah slept with Ian, I think she needs to be shunned by Tessa, Sharon, and Daniel forever. And then JG needs to be fired for writing something so horrific.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Chelsea said wars can't end until one side stops retaliating. Guess she missed history class on the day they learned about WWII. Sometimes it takes a nuke or two to make the aggressor stop coming at you, Chelz. Billy is not trying to be Japan in 1945.

Phyllis: Victor, I have Aristotle Dumas' direct number. I can call him whenever I  want. Nonny nonny boo boo!
Victor: you have nothing I need, Phyllis. Stop acting like you can do me favor because Nick's pull-out game was weak 30 years ago.
Phyllis: excuse me, what?
Joi: you're Summer's mommy, Phyllis. That and a roll of quarters might get you somewhere at the laundromat but not across the table from Victor.

Look at Amy fishing for compliments. We got it, Amy. Nate and Damian owe everything to you for tricking them into meeting each other. Because you never stop reminding them us.

8 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

The Amy stuff was white noise & a blur.  Ignored all of it except for noticing Amy’s wig was crooked today.  Bleh to all of it.

Since Audra is now Amy's bestie, one wonders why she hasn't helped Amy find a better wig. Or at least had it styled and put on her head correctly. Sigh.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Did Phyllis lowkey smirk as Victor walked away? VIctor basically cracked her face and left it in a million tiny pieces on the floor! Too bad there's not a market for delulu since Phyllis has tons of it to spare.

Damian just cleared another pathway into Winters Inc. He tearfully (🙄) showed ever so much gratitude toward Nate for trusting him to be a good double agent. Aristotle Dumas, come on down!

Yeesh, Amy continued to rag on Holden. Whatever, Ames. Your approval is probably not even at the bottom of the list of things Holden wants. Bless your heart.

3 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I was just thinking, along with many attributes Gradmpire is a PIMP.

Okay, now I want to see Victor wearing a pimp hat, carrying a cane, and doing a crip walk into the GCAC.

Edited 19 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[Waldo13]

Billy👃 you insufferable arrogant hypocritical idiot. Adam writes hit pieces while he thinks his hit piece, on Adam, was justified. Adam is right, Victor plays chess while Billy👃 plays pocket pool.  

Audra is another person who thinks she can  outsmart Victor. The Tucker school of treachery is a preschool next to Victor’s school of higher learning.  

If I was Chelsea I would tell Billy👃 that she has more regrets being with him than Adam.  

As far as I’m concerned, Amy should be in the clinic, where she should can be monitored, instead with Natey Nate Nate.  One other thing, Amy looks too good and strong for someone that is going through an advanced experimental treatment. (I know this from a personal experience).  

You can tell Natey Nate Nate and Damian are brothers. Can someone say smugness personified?  

I can’t get my head around what 🐂💩 the monkeys with a keyboard will come up with on how Aristotle can go after Chancellor or Winters when both are privately held companies.  

Do I feel sorry for Manic Pathetic Phyllis?  No Nada Negative Ghost Rider (the pattern is full). She overplayed her hand with Victor. She thought that her information was worth millions. She even struck out with Aristotle. 

 

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

2 hours ago, boes said:

Phyllis going begging to Victor is wrong in so many ways.  Bad enough that we had to see the two worst characters in Genoa City share several scenes, but to have Phyllis grovel and try to wheedle something from Victor, the man who set her up to be systematically raped for months when he replaced Jack with his doppelganger was disgusting.

As much as I can't stand Phyllis, having her, in any way, ask Victor for help is almost as bad as him daring to be dismissive and contemptuous towards the woman he violated so badly. 

Show sometimes seems to think that they can just ignore old storylines but that one is just too big to forget, and too important of one with the way it affected so many characters and relationships.  Victor will forever be indebted to Phyllis for what he did and she can and should forever hold him in the utmost contempt.  Today was a bad move on Show's part IMO.

Quoted for TRUTH. 

I think they expect the viewers to forget about that ugly piece of history because it was a different actress playing Phyllis. Plus, allegedly EB didn't want to hear Victor being admonished about what he caused to happen to Phyllis. Because at best, Phyllis was only collateral damage, and at worst, she was a willing victim.

TPTB don't seem to want to acknowledge that kind of sexual assault because they pretty much pulled the same thing with Traci and Martin. And then doubled down by having Traci run all over town telling people it was her fault for falling in love with Alan. It's awful.

[Denize]

5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Oh btw, what the heck ever happened to cough-cough Cole?  Is he dying or what?

I'd already completely forgotten about Cole ... again!

Edited 18 hours ago by Denize

[One Tough Cookie]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

kay, now I want to see Victor wearing a pimp hat, carrying a cane, and doing a crip walk into the GCAC.

I think I just pissed myself!

 

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

s, but to have Phyllis grovel and try to wheedle something from Victor, the man who set her up to be systematically raped for months when he replaced Jack with his doppelganger was disgusting.

Now I just barfed in my mouth

[ScoobieDoobs]

18 hours ago, pvandal said:

I'm sure this is too out there but does anyone else think Dumas is Victor and he's just playing a game watching everyone chase their tails for his amusement?

You know, the way Vic was soooo dismissive of Phyllis & soooo sure she couldn't possibly have any info on Doo-mah or be able to reach him?  Made me ponder this theory that maybe he's Doo-mah . . .

11 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Okay, now I want to see Victor wearing a pimp hat, carrying a cane, and doing a crip walk into the GCAC.

Idk, I can't see EB EVER agreeing to wear Huggy Bear garb, but maybe those wardrobe peeps, who are outfitting The Red Beast in the monstrosities she wears, could secretly switch outfits meant for Damian or Holden?  Nah, since he's always now in all black (like Count Chocula), guess he'd notice . . . 

Edited 8 hours ago by ScoobieDoobs

[ASpring1900]

9 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Since Audra is now Amy's bestie, one wonders why she hasn't helped Amy find a better wig. Or at least had it styled and put on her head correctly.

When Amy was catching up with Audra—asking how she was and what was going on—I was surprised she didn’t mention the new tattoo on the inside of Audra’s right arm. It seemed like Audra was angling her arm to make it more noticeable, at least during the first half of the episode (or maybe I just stopped caring by the second half).

[lilmarysunshine]

Why does MS play Phyllis like a 21 year old? Damn. She is in her 50s. The stupid giggling and fake laughs across the table*. This woman’s acting tics have been bugging me for 15 years. 😡 Just an irredeemable character.
 

* Because she spends 95% of her time at Crimson Lights, Society, or the GCAC. The lack of sets really impacts their storytelling. 

[pvandal]

Nikki, when describing Victor I think you mispronounced emotionally abusive as "stubborn".

And Holden my guy...you are nice to look at but you're bordering on creepy. Dial it back.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Eat, pray, amore. Sure, that's exactly what Summer needs, Phyllis. Projecting much?

Good grief, I can't understand why Kyle keeps letting Audra provoke him. Hey, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the centers of the cosmetics world are in Paris, New York, and Asia. L'Oréal is pointing and laughing at both of you.

Ruh roh, looks like Holden might blow Audra's cover now that he knows she's having some kind of issue with Kyle Abbott of the Jabot Abbotts.

Oof, Nikki's nose job. Did she want to look perpetually snooty?

A party. Oh Claire, honey, no. If all it took was a soirée to sway Grandpa My Way or the Highway, party planning would be a booming business in GC. Victor is hardly a party animal.

Oy, I think Kyle may have accidentally sicced Claire on Audra by telling her about his intent to "get close" to Audra. To Claire, another woman who's supposedly nothing to worry about = a three-alarm jealousy fire.

Edited 1 hour ago by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

16 minutes ago, pvandal said:

And Holden my guy...you are nice to look at but you're bordering on creepy. Dial it back.

ICAM. He's starting to come across like a stalker, especially since people keep asking him why he's even still in GC. He must have the kind of job that can be done remotely.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Show, you're gonna have to come up with something for Holden to do in GC, other than sitting around in bars & lurking near Audra cuz he's getting very off-putting to watch -- in spite of his hot looks.

OK, OK, I know Pomp is a ridiculous idiot & a fool, but sorry, writers, it's a dumb stretch that even a moron like him would be bothered by whatever Audra was babbling about.  Dumb, dumb, dumb, shitty, shitty, sloppy writing yet again. 

Why would a long established & successful company like Jabot have ANY concern about an "idea" for ONE possibly competitive product that hasn't been developed, let alone researched or actually produced, by a company that doesn't even yet exist (but only has an idiotic name)?  This shit is beyond stupid!

Guess it's the writers' purposeful choice to have ANY & EVERY character who hears that stupid fucking name "Vibrante", automatically say how wonderful that dopey name is.  Just cuz Diane was fascinated by it doesn't mean jack.  It's still a stupid fucking name.

Thankfully, no burning of your retinas will be happening if you watch today cuz The Red Beast changed & she mercifully covered her boobies.

[Js Nana]

20 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

he's getting very off-putting to watch

The writing for Holden is very much like the writing for most of the male characters on this show - they can relentlessly come on to female characters and the female characters are written as having to give in.