wknt3 October 18, 2019 Share October 18, 2019 Quote Frank takes a case to heart when it involves the suspicious death of a friend's terminally ill wife. Also, after demanding more meaningful cases, Erin receives an unsolved robbery case that proves to be impossible to crack without help from Anthony, and Danny and Baez uncover the shocking truth behind a puzzling assault claim. Link to comment
Katy M October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 Jamie and Frank's case: That was a tough one. I think they resolved it well. Letting him bury his wife and then charging him as low as possible. I'm against something like that being let off altogether, unless there are videos and such to prove that the deceased was on board. Because there is no other way to prove it and that person is the only one that has that right to decide that. Danny's case: Interesting for once. I had a feeling she was making it up at the line up. But, I find it hard to believe that guy didn't have a lawyer? Shouldn't he have been there to make sure the ID was kosher. On a separate note, aren't Danny and Baez homicide detectives, or did they decide to stop specializing and just start giving out cases willy-nilly? Erin's case: I love Anthony. And Erin is lucky Anthony was the only one in the room when she called the victims illegals, or she'd be looking at $250K fine. But, NYC is a sanctuary city. Realistically, those victims had nothing to worry about in the deportation arena. Like the taxi story from last week (or the week before, I've lost track), how did they know that guy was going to rob that convenience store that day? This show has the most accommodating criminals. Family dinner: My mom once told me that I should enjoy my time at work as much as I enjoyed my time after work. She told me this when I was an assistant manager at Wendy's. That was hands down the worst job I've ever had. I repeated that statement to another of the manager's. She told me my mom was insane. I started to argue, because I will generally defend my family members against all insult. But, then I realized she was right. My mom was crazy. 3 Link to comment
Sarah 103 October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 I loved that Erin acknowledged that Jamie is Frank's mini-me. 4 Link to comment
mtlchick October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Sarah 103 said: I loved that Erin acknowledged that Jamie is Frank's mini-me. I thought this episode was the best this season, and that scene was a big reason why. They were squabbling siblings and Erin got some nice shots in towards in but they were not as mean spirited as a lot of them tend to be. 1 Link to comment
wellread October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 About 35 years ago, Catholic cemeteries officially began accepting suicides for burial for 2 reasons. Mental illness often leads to suicide which can't be blamed on the victim, and it is impossible to know whether the suicide repented at the last seconds of life. Why would this episode present a long outdated policy as current doctrine? Have no Catholics involved with the show remained current? 6 Link to comment
MissLucas October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 (edited) On 10/19/2019 at 6:17 PM, wellread said: About 35 years ago, Catholic cemeteries officially began accepting suicides for burial for 2 reasons. Mental illness often leads to suicide which can't be blamed on the victim, and it is impossible to know whether the suicide repented at the last seconds of life. Why would this episode present a long outdated policy as current doctrine? Have no Catholics involved with the show remained current? Yes, exactly. I live in a traditionally Catholic area and there have been (too) many suicides throughout my lifetime - and never was a Catholic funeral denied. But I have a long ago realized that in the world of Blue Bloods NY is the size of Walnut Grove and Vatican II never happened. And while it's not unusual - at least within societies where a more liberal form of Catholicism is practiced - that there's a gap between doctrine and practice this is not the case here. Straight out of the Catechism: Quote Suicide 2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of. 2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God. 2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law. Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. 2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives Sure a hard-liner on the pulpit could claim that the deceased wasn't in one of the above listed dire straits - but that would make headlines. Edited October 22, 2019 by MissLucas 1 Link to comment
Sarah 103 October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, wellread said: About 35 years ago, Catholic cemeteries officially began accepting suicides for burial for 2 reasons. Mental illness often leads to suicide which can't be blamed on the victim, and it is impossible to know whether the suicide repented at the last seconds of life. Why would this episode present a long outdated policy as current doctrine? Have no Catholics involved with the show remained current? The episodes regularly have younger characters use slang that I think went out of style in the 1950s. Staying up to date on things is not this show's strongest feature. 1 Link to comment
Magnumfangirl October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 OK episode, but I think the show has run the assisted suicide (or whatever it was) stories into the ground. We've seen at least 3 or 4 of them. Also, how did the fake rape victim get beat up? Was there any evidence of rape or sex? Interesting idea, but too many plot holes in that story. Nikki was still at the table so I guess she hasn't left for San Fran. 🙁 3 Link to comment
MissLucas October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Magnumfangirl said: Also, how did the fake rape victim get beat up? Was there any evidence of rape or sex? Interesting idea, but too many plot holes in that story. A rape kit was never mentioned. Nor was it explained where her bruises or the blood on the sheets had been coming from. 2 Link to comment
Katy M October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Magnumfangirl said: Also, how did the fake rape victim get beat up? Was there any evidence of rape or sex? She could have hit herself with something a few times. She was getting paid $10K so she may have been willing to do that. And depending on exactly what the drug did to him, she may have been able to have sex with him while he was unconscious, which would actually make her the rapist. I think the problem is that they didn't want to go there. What she should have done was waited a couple of days to go to the police. There would have still been witnesses that she checked into the hotel with that guy, and any lack of rape evidence wouldn't have been so obvious. And it's not that unusual for someone who is raped by someone they voluntarily went to a hotel room with to be embarrassed/ashamed and not report it for a few days. But, by going right after, I think she said 45 minutes, of course, a rape kit would be done, and her refusing one would be highly suspicious. Unless he confessed, I can't see him even getting indicted for rape, much less prosecuted. Unless, of course, she raped him and had the rape kit done on herself. But, since it wasn't supposed to go that far per her words, and she was only getting $10K (up to that point), I can't really see it. 2 Link to comment
preeya October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, MissLucas said: A rape kit was never mentioned. Nor was it explained where her bruises or the blood on the sheets had been coming from. That's because the case wasn't turned over to St. Olivia Benson and the SVU squad. 7 1 Link to comment
wknt3 October 19, 2019 Author Share October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, MissLucas said: A rape kit was never mentioned. Nor was it explained where her bruises or the blood on the sheets had been coming from. 3 hours ago, preeya said: That's because the case wasn't turned over to St. Olivia Benson and the SVU squad. What more could the intercession of a mere Saint do when her case was being handled by the Son of God Himself? 1 Link to comment
JayDub October 19, 2019 Share October 19, 2019 Typical show. Nothing good or bad. However Anthony is now a very good reason to watch this show. 3 Link to comment
preeya October 20, 2019 Share October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, wknt3 said: What more could the intercession of a mere Saint do when her case was being handled by the Son of God Himself? She would have given her pained expression and said to the girl "this wasn't your fault" as she placed her hand on her stomach. Just like she's done hundreds of times before. Link to comment
Rambler October 21, 2019 Share October 21, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 8:05 PM, Katy M said: Erin's case: I love Anthony. And Erin is lucky Anthony was the only one in the room when she called the victims illegals, or she'd be looking at $250K fine. But, NYC is a sanctuary city. Realistically, those victims had nothing to worry about in the deportation arena. Like the taxi story from last week (or the week before, I've lost track), how did they know that guy was going to rob that convenience store that day? This show has the most accommodating criminals. I have this funny feeling that New York being a sanctuary city was originally written into the story. A lot of law enforcement officials support the concept of sanctuary cities because studies have shown they lead to a decrease in the crime rate. Then TPTB realized their right wing audience would probably throw a fit if they heard anything positive about sanctuary cities so they had all references removed from the script. The abrupt way they ended the story with Anthony going undercover and catching the guy just smelled like a last second re-write to me. On the other hand, it might also have been your typical Blue Bloods idiotic writing. It's hard to tell the difference with this show. On 10/19/2019 at 10:55 AM, Katy M said: She could have hit herself with something a few times. She was getting paid $10K so she may have been willing to do that. I don’t think she thought the plan through. She got taken to a hospital, so between all the copays and deductibles she probably ended up losing money. 1 Link to comment
kwnyc October 22, 2019 Share October 22, 2019 Quote But I have a long ago realized that in the world of Blue Bloods NY is the size of Walnut Grove and Vatican II never happened. That's a really good description. Link to comment
Emma9 October 28, 2019 Share October 28, 2019 Why would Anthony have been the one to go undercover? They took pains to point out that the perp was deliberately targeting minorities who appeared likely to be undocumented because they'd be less likely to cooperate with the police. So the fact that he tried to rob Anthony made no sense, over and above the issue of how quickly it worked - as Katy M pointed out: On 10/18/2019 at 11:05 PM, Katy M said: Like the taxi story from last week (or the week before, I've lost track), how did they know that guy was going to rob that convenience store that day? Link to comment
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