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  1. Really wasn't expecting much, but yeah, I really, really enjoyed that. Seeing the genuine camaraderie and affection between them, watching them bounce off each other... even though it was the actors not the characters, the interactions still had the same vibe of the show, and knowing it was real made it even sweeter. The way David and Jen held on to each other long after that final Ross-Rachel scene technically ended hit me right in the heart.
  2. The Making of Girls5eva’s Catchy, Laugh-Out-Loud Fake Pop Songs There's the answer to my earlier wondering how New York Lonely Boy came about:
  3. He guested on 30 Rock, so obviously has a prior relationship with Fey and co., but I was still surprised when I recognized his actual wife as herself (and then searched during the show to confirm that yes, that was their actual son, who really is an only child). Afterward I wondered how the appearance and storyline had come about: if it was something he'd discussed with Fey and others--raising an only son in the city--that led to the storyline, or if they came up with the storyline and reached out to their family about making their appearance. Either way, it was a cool scene.
  4. Fun interview Renée Elise Goldsberry Talks Playing a Pop Star in Girls5eva
  5. I didn't love it as much as I'd hoped to (certainly not as much as 30 Rock or Kimmy Schmidt), but I still really liked it (and it was much better than Great News or Mr. Mayor among the shows Fey's produced). I think that's the main way I would describe it--likeable. I liked all the characters, and even if it wasn't as funny as I'd hoped (there were some dry spots, and the last couple episodes were a little too serious/sad for me) it was an easy watch and I liked spending time in this world and with these people. Good escapism for 4 hours. On a storytelling level, it was very well-constructed, with how everything paid off and little plot elements throughout the 8 episodes came together at the end. I like Sara B a lot, so it was a bit of a bummer that she wasn't really allowed to be funny, mostly playing the straight character. Renee G had the best character and made the most of it. Everything she did killed--one of my favorite moments wasn't even an overtly comedic one; it was when "Girls5ev..." showed up on the screen in the last episode and she screamed GIRLS5EVA and grabbed the mics--a combination of funny and emotional and triumphant. Also I can't stop listening to this:
  6. Yep. Until this year only 5 women had been nominated, so probably not a surprise. Lina Wertmüller (1976′s “Seven Beauties”), Jane Campion (1993′s “The Piano”), Sofia Coppola (2003′s “Lost in Translation”), Kathryn Bigelow (2009′s “The Hurt Locker”), and Greta Gerwig (2017′s “Lady Bird”). One Italian, one New Zealander (sp?) and three Americans.
  7. Happy "Husavik" Day! May not only the best song, but the only nominee - actually used in its movie - that's pivotal to the plot and key to its themes - that has to be believable as a specific thing (a Eurovision song) and good in its own right--and pulls it off win!
  8. I never got the sense he was being thrown under the bus by anyone (I don't take gossip sites seriously), but it's funny that you said this right before Shonda's interview came out saying the same thing about only expecting him to be in one season and how this is how romance novels work. A lot of sites, like the Apple link above, are pulling quotes from the interview, but here's the full Vanity Fair interview: EXCLUSIVE: Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers Reign Supreme as Netflix Greenlights Bridgerton Seasons 3 and 4
  9. 'Bridgerton' Renewed for Seasons 3 and 4 by Netflix
  10. Inside Rege-Jean Page’s ‘Bridgerton’ Departure "Sources close to the show tell THR that Page was offered an opportunity to return as a guest star in three to five episodes of season two — at a rate of $50,000 an episode — but declined for a multitude of reasons." ... "Sources say nearly everyone close to the show knew Page only had a one-year deal for Bridgerton. The plan from the start was for the sophomore season to be based on Quinn's The Viscount Who Loved Me and revolve around Jonathan Bailey's Anthony Bridgerton, with Page's Simon never planned to be part of the story. Few could have predicted that Bridgerton would become Netflix's most-watched original series ever or that Page would become its fan favorite. Sources say the production reached out to Page's camp in January or February with an offer to return — after he and the show broke out — even though plans for season two never included his character, Simon."
  11. I wondered how they would keep Simon and Daphne involved in the series now that their story was told, since it would be expensive to keep the actors on as secondary characters. Well, here's an answer: No Simon in Season 2 ‘Bridgerton’ Breakout Regé-Jean Page Will Not Appear in Season 2
  12. Great interview with creator Jac Schaeffer in the NYT. This was my favorite part, to give credit where it's due to a line that clearly resonated with a lot of people.
  13. "We have said goodbye before, so it stands to reason..." "...we'll say hello again." Sigh. I should have realized when they went to the trouble of mentioning the runes in the previouslies that they were going to come into play, but it was still hugely satisfying when they did. Other than Hayward not getting the crap kicked out of him (or receiving any kind of physical punishment), I was perfectly satisfied on every level. Brilliantly done, show.
  14. I've been waiting for that Agnes "Am I dead?...Because you are" scene since the first trailer. Glad it lived up to the trailer and the whole thing wasn't spoiled.
  15. Well, that's significantly less fun. Oh well.
  16. Even though we'd left Bewitched behind in favor of The Brady Bunch, some of the doctor's line readings sounded very Paul Lynde, which I found amusing. Also loved how, in that typical TV-land way, she gave birth to giant babies that were in no way newborns, and which evidently came already wrapped in blankets (at least when she was handed the first one). (And like last week, I'm convinced the guy in the opening credits outside the library with Vision and Herb is definitely David Schwimmer in makeup. If they get to the 90s in a few weeks, they have to be saving him for a Friends reveal.) This one felt a lot faster, likely because it had a straightforward, propulsive plot, which I enjoyed, but the creepier elements toward the end really made it.
  17. https://tvline.com/2021/01/21/bridgerton-season-2-spoilers-lord-anthony-new-love-interest/ The last bit is what I found most interesting, because a TV show is very different from a romance novel series, where the main couple from one book moves into the background of subsequent books as other couples' stories are told. In a TV series, lead actors generally don't want to become supporting characters, and it would be expensive to keep them on contract to just do brief cameos and pop-ins like they would in a romance novel series. To stay a large part of the show, they'd need story, which likely means conflict, and most viewers who read the books won't want to see anything that tests Simon and Daphne's happy ending (just look at some of the reaction to the changes to some of the other characters to inject more conflict and drama, which was necessary for a TV show). It will be very interesting to see to what degree the characters are involved in the future.
  18. I can't find any confirmation, and he's not listed in the closing credits...but this is totally David Schwimmer in chunky makeup (ala Ross's double Russ on Friends), no?
  19. I've been thinking about the name Whistledown and wondering why Quinn chose it. It seems close enough to whistleblower not to be a coincidence. If anything, the show's introduction of the Marina plot and the decision to have Penelope use her power not just for idle gossip, but to expose wrongdoing, explicitly makes her a whistleblower in a way the book Penelope/Whistledown didn't seem to be. And the response to her actions is basically the same one real-world whistleblowers get. Marina was committing fraud. Penelope/Whistledown told the truth. That's it. Penelope didn't lie or commit libel. She didn't idly share the information for no reason, or for kicks. She wouldn't have told the truth at all if Marina wasn't doing something wrong. And yet, the simple act of telling the truth is as controversial as it often is in real life, especially in our current Fake News era. Whistleblowers often find themselves under attack because what's they're saying can't be disputed (because it's the truth), so they're criticized for having said anything at all. Whistledown is targeted for arrest. The scientist in Florida who was trying to get out the real COVID-19 numbers had her home invaded by the police. The whistleblower is decried as a traitor, and disloyal, who betrayed the people who trusted them. "She's trash, because she....TOLD THE TRUTH!" "I hope the show doesn't whitewash that she...TOLD THE TRUTH!" (Meanwhile, the people lying always have justifications. "The real COVID numbers can't be shared because they'll scare people; they'll hurt business; they'll make officials look bad..." "Marina had to commit fraud, because REASONS." Because people doing something wrong, in real life or in fiction, usually have REASONS.) It's interesting--Wonder Woman 1984 dropped on the same day as Bridgerton, and there were some complaints about how it was too much of a commentary on the world today, with all its talk about truth and lies. It had characters who had understandable reasons to want to lean into lies, yet, for all the movie's many faults, one thing it got right is that it came down firmly on the side that "Nothing good comes from lies." Bridgerton is even more of a period piece, and an alternate reality, yet it ended up being just as much of a reflection of our world today. The whistleblower who did nothing but tell the truth is targeted by the government. Debating whether or not the act of telling the truth is a good thing is a very 2020 debate to have.
  20. Because this is most relevant here: How difficult was it for her to decide to betray Marina (Ruby Barker) and expose her? Do you think it was a decision made rashly or impulsively in some ways? She always knew it was the ace card she had in her back pocket, but it's such a huge thing to do. It's funny because we didn't get all the scripts at once, so I was reading it going, "I can see where this is going, but Penelope is not going to do that. She's too sweet and she's too kindhearted, and it would be too bad, because it would not only destroy Marina's life and her prospects and her children's life, it would destroy her sister's prospects for marriage, her prospects for marriage." It just had so many knock-on effects that I went, "She's never going to do it." So when I got the script, and she did it, I couldn't believe it. I was so shocked. I talked to Claudia Jessie about it, who plays Eloise, and I said, "How has she done this? It's so bad." And Claudia said, "She's a child. She's 17, and that's not like a 17-year-old nowadays. She's so innocent, she's so protected, and she hasn't fully realized the extent of the power that she's garnered by being Whistledown." But she feels tremendously guilty. It really eats away at her, because deep down she is a really good, kind soul. But she's just desperately in love with Colin [Luke Newton], and sees him being tricked, and she feels out of control, but then she has the most control of anybody, and she utilizes that. Nicely put. That whole interview is great. Love the actress, love the character.
  21. She did still have a pressing need to get married, though. She was still ruined. Even if she hadn't still been pregnant at that point, the world knew she had been and wasn't a virgin, which meant she was unlikely to find a decent marriage and still had few options. The brother of the man who'd knocked her up was offering to take care of her. Pregnant or not, she should have taken the offer immediately. His brother was the one who'd ruined her; his family should be the ones taking care of her. Turning down his offer was stupid. And then, when she realized that she was still pregnant, she still had to be talked into marrying him instead of immediately jumping at the best offer she was ever going to get. Because she didn't wuuuuuuv him. Because she was a selfish, stupid moron.
  22. From Complicated Romance to a Mysterious Writer, ‘Bridgerton’ EPs Break Down Shondaland’s First Netflix Drama
  23. Flawed, but fun and exactly the bit of joy I was looking for. Yes, I could certainly nitpick many things, but I simply didn't care. I enjoyed it a lot. A key difference in the WW movies to me is that they feel more about the characters than a lot of superhero movies. In most superhero movies, it feels like the characters are cogs in the plot. These movies (overlong as they are) feel like the story is flowing from the characters, rather than the other way around. There are moments that let the characters breathe, and exist, independent of the plot. The fact that the climax was a big speech from Diana, one that reflects who she is as a person, rather than an action scene, was perfect and demonstrative of what I mean. Probably not explaining that well. So be it. I really enjoyed it.
  24. This doesn't really feel like news, but TV Line says Season 2 "could" start shooting as early as March (though the show hasn't been officially renewed).
  25. Penelope didn't do anything wrong, so there's nothing to whitewash. Others seem to be attempting to justify Marina's actions as "she had no choice." You know how you can tell when someone has no choice? When their actions cost them something, they have to do something they don't want, and it's not just other people being screwed over for their actions. If she had married an old man in a blatant business transaction, it would be believable that she had no choice. But that would have cost her something, and she was too selfish for that. Marrying Colin would have cost her nothing. It would have cost him--in having to give his name to a child that wasn't his, in having to be married to someone who didn't love him--and his family, if the truth came out. But she would have gotten everything she wanted at no cost to herself. A person who decides to screw over someone else rather than have to give up anything or deal with a situation of their own making (a lady in 1813 certainly knows better than to give it up before getting a ring.) has no excuses. By revealing Marina's pregnancy as Whistledown, Penelope hurt her family's reputation--and since she's part of that family, she hurt herself. She didn't just sacrifice Marina's reputation, she sacrificed her own--and her own future prospects, as far as she knew. She did it to save someone she has no reason to believe she has any future with, and who she knows doesn't love her, from an unjust marriage. Because she loved him. Doing something that costs you, for someone who doesn't even return your feelings--that's love. That's someone who has no choice. It's something the self-absorbed, selfish, and completely awful Marina (my lover's brother is offering to marry me and take care of my child and I? Waaaaaah! No way! I don't wuv him! Pout pout, mope mope) would never understand.
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