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No, she's insinuating that Lulu accepting that Dante wants a divorce makes her not truly committed to/not good enough for Dante IMO. I know what Olivia said. I thought Ned should have tossed Brook out for commenting about Dante's marriage when she hasn't been around and doesn't know what the F has been going on, and for being insta-buddy buddy with Sonny again.

Hayden said she wasn't concerned about the years Violet and Finn lost out on together because "Robin turned out alright." It was very obvious that Hayden is jealous of Anna and desperately wants Anna to feel insecure about Finn/doubtful about the engagement esp. now that Violet is in Finn's life. The line that she and Finn already have a relationship so there's nothing to rebuild made me roll my eyes. Anna can see through Hayden and is not threatened by her despite Hayden's efforts. Brook should have been tossed out the door along with Sonny after that line about hasn't Lulu heard of a paper shredder re: the divorce papers. She's as unapologetic about her history of trying to break up Dante and Lulu as Hayden is about lying to Finn and keeping Violet away from her all this time. Carly, you're mistaking Jason for Monica ... ugh about J&C propping each other regarding children.

I saw a headline today (while standing in line at the grocery store) that Tristan Rogers is heading back to Young & Restless.

I think the Show has *tried* to establish tense moments, like when they were having a friendly/borderline tense moment of looking into each other's eyes and Robert interrupted, wanting to talk to Finn (which also included a 'remember you're with Anna' type remark). There was another moment where Chase interrupted Finn and Hayden, then commented about Anna. However, ME's acting in those moments seemed to indicate more that he still cared about Hayden and remembered being in love with her and in time, if Anna wasn't in the picture (and no more ugliness happened between them) he could fall in love with Hayden again while Hayden was still in love with him. However, realizing that Hayden has lied about and withheld his child all this time because he moved on with Anna pretty much guarantees he won't fall for her again because he can't trust her especially when she's trying to shrug off the seriousness of that betrayal.

He is not a hard-core evil person in the sense that he does not set out to commit genocide, torture children, etc. but he is still evil in the sense he wants his so-called BFF's mother dead to protect his secret, and that he still kept his mouth shut when the baby was in danger - kidnapped by Shiloh - because of his lies. He showed zero guilt, just some nervousness, when Willow wanted to pray with him for Wiley and then thanked him for allowing her to have a place in Wiley's life (because she doesn't know he handed over her deceased son to Nelle). You're right that Lucas would not have understood, because he knows babies are not interchangeable and Michael is his family. I don't see how being angry that his own husband betrayed him and other family is jumping on a "high horse"; he has never done anything like this which would make angry reactions to Brad hypocritical. I think Lucas would have been furious just as much if someone tried to pass off a deceased baby as theirs, like what happened to his sister Sam. Brad's behavior shows a lot of fear of someone figuring things out. I do not see guilt. Guilt would manifest with Michael in some scenes like asking him to take Wiley for a weekend while the two parents spend some time together, or some over the top thanking for something mundane. That has never been the case. If anything, Brad gets nervous/upset about Michael spending time with Wiley at all. He just doesn't put a stop to Michael being around Wiley because it would make Lucas, Michael and others suspicious.

Yes. She was also found guilty of something with negligence, maybe negligent homicide? The judge said she was not guilty re: premeditation.

How did Diane keep a straight face while trying to argue that Sam is "a productive member of society"? I just rolled my eyes at the continuing Jasam "angst." Brad has some balls yelling at Lucas that he's the one carrying the burden and making all the sacrifices to protect their family and then trying to demand that Julian let him in. Turning off the lights and walking away was a great move. The Finn and Anna scenes were very underwhelming. Show, between script and direction for the actors, you're doing a terrible job of convincing me these two really missed each other and love each other. Didn't like what I'm assuming was supposed to be great irony of Brook bursting in the door complaining about the front of the home, as Ned is telling Olivia and Sonny that eventually their son will come home. My reason is that the last time Brook was around she was getting paid to sabotage (her now stepbrother) Dante's life with Lulu by trying to seduce and later rape him. Elizabeth's emotional reaction today was the only touching thing to see.

I guess you missed it when Sam showed signs of life in a scene a few months ago. She was pretending (unfortunately) to be done with Jason to pull a con on Shiloh, but then Shiloh witnessed a kiss so they staged a fight. Sam slapped Jason across the face for the 'unwanted' kiss and yelled at him. That was the most energized Monaco has been in a long time .... it was an entertaining moment to watch.

When Hayden told Violet she could go play in Emma's room because of all the toys there, was it a script mistake that Violet didn't ask in response, "Who's Emma?" Unless I missed a scene, Violet did not know her newly discovered Daddy has a girlfriend/fiance who lives there and that a little girl sometimes visits that girlfriend/fiance.

I think ME is doing a good job of playing Finn as in awe of being daddy to this beautiful little girl. Her reactions to him are adorable. I agree with seasons about their great chemistry. As much as I don't like Anna and Finn together, I kinda want them to at least begin their wedding ceremony because Hayden deserves to hurt for lying and withholding his daughter to punish him for moving on after she ran away from their engagement.

IIRC, the last time Nikolas mentioned BL long after she had left the show, he acknowledged having blackmailed/bribed her to get her ELQ shares and implied that he had memories of her being a good time (like she was a hooker).

So Carly and Jax would have a secret together, to manufacture drama that Carly would keep a big secret from Sonny after they've just had a baby/are 'closer than ever as a family,' to give Sonny a reason to be mad at Jax, and to cause friction when Josslyn ends up finding out Mom and Dad kept a secret from her. But the big reason at the moment is because nuNik is an idiot.

My favorite part of today was Cassandra's horror/disgust at germs from being bitten, and Anna smirking/being gleeful at Cassandra's reaction. Second favorite part was Jax pointing out that they're lying to protect Dev and reminding Carly of lying with him to keep baby Spencer away from Nikolas. God forbid someone should ask you to do penance for your sins of the past, Carly. Her incredulity made me laugh. HATED Charlotte calling Valentin on Jason's cellphone and telling him: "Jason saved me." No kid, you saved yourself with a lot of help from Anna and later Jason. Valentin crying on Nina's chest like she's his mother was cringeworthy. Ok, fine - all of the faces he made were cringeworthy. And he could not have known for sure Charlotte wouldn't be with Cassandra when the boat exploded. "Don't you feel abandoned?" says the bitch who ran away from their wedding and lied about a miscarriage. I dislike Hayden more and more everyday. Is it too much to hope that he blasts her upon learning she actually came back to Port Charles due to the promise of a payout?

I didn't see it as playing house; more like Finn trying to get to know his daughter and wants her to sleep over in his guest room; Hayden is hoping he will be caught up in "family feels." I expect that Anna will call Hayden out on that since she has so much experience dealing with liars/criminals/manipulators.

It appears she gets to be the one to save Charlotte from evil Cassandra. I guess that means Valentin will possibly feel indebted to her/stop hating her for not wanting him back in the day. P.S. @GHScorpiosRule are you excited for the return of a Q family member? I'm curious how the re-cast will work out with other re-cast characters on the Show.

THIS. Bobbie was never even mentioned (let alone allowed to be in a scene) when JJ's Lucky and Elizabeth were in the storyline of losing little Jake and organ donation to Josslyn when she should have been a key supporting since she experienced losing BJ and the organ donation to Maxie. I recall she one (not important) scene with the Ethan character, Luke's ret-conned son, and one scene with Alexis during the teen Kristina-being-abused-by-hs boyfriend storyline, then nada. She has had few scenes with Lucas since the character was recast as an adult - even after Lucas and Brad got "Wiley.' Yet she was used consistently in a supportive role in the Carly/S&C scenes to be suspicious of, then hate on, Nelle all the while rarely being in any scenes with Michael or Josslyn. It will never not annoy me that Bobbie is more attentive on-screen to the daughter she did not raise, who played a significant role in the destruction of the her family, than she is to the son she did raise, who suffered as a child in that destruction. I really hate that adult Lucas has never been allowed to have a scene with "loving big sis" Carly where he confronts her about how her actions impacted his childhood. It strains credibility that Lucas would ever want to be around her or say more than "Hi Carly, by Carly" to her, especially since we have just seen a reflection on how much he loved Tony.

This isn't the first time he had murder in mind. He previously tried to have Hayden murdered (gunshot to the head) but the shooter messed up. I think Laura knows about that?? Hayden and Nikolas just mentioned that bit of history in the "Nikolas is revealed" flashback scenes so Jax is aware of it too.

Didn't Cassandra meet Michael and Sasha on Sonny's island by chance? They didn't plan that trip weeks in advance, so how could Nik have orchestrated it for Cassandra to be out of WSB custody and on Sonny's island at that time? She didn't know who Michael and Sasha were until they introduced themselves. Stupid writers.

BM and RC deserve all the praise. The Tony and Lucas scenes were beautifully acted!!! I teared up, which is rare. The Tony/Bobbie moment was a nice touch; JZ conveyed that Bobbie felt his presence. It helped me to ignore Brad being an ass, Maxie and Lulu being twits, and Jason and Sam trying to pull of angst. Charlotte's fear at the end was believable. Re: previews, hey Lulu that can happen when you're not watching your child because you're enjoying chatting with your bestie in a public place. Cassandra should fear Charlotte's grandma the mayor though.

A) Agree, Josslyn is mourning Oscar more than she has mourned her late brother or Grandma Lady Jane, both of whom had important roles in her life from birth. B) Sasha doesn't owe Curtis anything, but Curtis absolutely knows Valentin's track record of deviousness nuch better than Sasha does. Sasha is naive to think Valentin won't ever screw over Nina again. She should be bright enough to see that Curtis wants to protect Nina, and give him at least basic info. C) Hayden was a criminal at the time she ran away from Port Charles. Robert is the D.A., so I would hope he can realize someone who was a fugitive is sneaky. The crime of embezzlement, by nature, means the person is a sneaky liar who disregards others. I understand he wants Anna to be with someone who treats her right. If he had seen Finn and Hayden kissing, seen hand holding, or heard Finn whispering to Hayden "I've really missed you" then an angry reaction/confrontation is understandable. But Finn hasn't actually done anything wrong. This is all about Robert's dislike of Anna and Finn's relationship and his feelings for Anna. Don't get me started on how the old Luke felt about Laura. Finn and Anna can't work as a team when Anna's attention is 100% elsewhere. If anything, he should ask Robin for advice about how and when to talk to Anna. He could explain the Hayden situation, Robin will get that Hayden's like Carly about her kid, and because she's level-headed and knows her mother's history, would provide good insights. Yes, Hayden wants Finn back and Robert is picking up on that, but Finn doesn't see that at the moment. I think he's too angry at Hayden. Btw, did anyone enjoy Cassandra snarking at Sam as much as I did? It vaguely reminds me of Alexis v. Helena, but Alexis was so much more skilled and entertaining when snarking back at Helena. Cassandra's snarking makes me miss Tracy. She delivered great lines in scenes with Jason/Sonny/Carly.

In the preview for 11/8, Lucas is going to Tony's grave so it's most likely the Friday show's "cliffhanger."

As far as I'm concerned the situation isn't that different because Hayden told Finn in a letter that she'd had a miscarriage, and he had no reason to believe she was lying until what, a day or two before Violet showed up in the hospital. Even if Finn had known about Violet, it's still not Robert's place to give him grief or tell him what to do because Anna is not young Robin and Finn is not young Patrick. Also Robert and Holly are not Finn and Anna. Robert is out of line for pressuring Finn to handle things how he once did with Holly, especially with Hayden being so vindictive and sneaky and having complete control over Violet's life.

I meant hypocrisy in the sense that Anna did in fact keep Robin a secret from him, then when he thinks that no good Finn has kept a child secret from Anna, he's all pissed off and tells him his instinct is to beat up Finn. No, he wasn't telling Finn you have to call Anna immediately, but he was trying to force Finn to do what he wants because otherwise you're "lying."

Did you see the part where right after Violet walked away with Hayden, before Finn even got to open his mouth, Robert told Finn if we weren't in a hospital right now I would kick your ass (paraphrasing)? His first thought was to assume the worst, that Finn's been lying about/hiding this child all this time from Anna. Finn acknowledged he's the father and explained. Robert calling Violet a "charmer" sounded almost sarcastic; he was clearly displeased and made it sound like he was referring to potential young criminal Dev instead of an innocent pre-school age little girl. Robert seems mad that Finn has a child with his ex period, and that he found out about this child because she ran into his leg. It was not wrong of Finn to feel like he wants to tell Anna in person. Robert jumping on him about lying by omission every time Finn talks to Anna on the phone now was out of line. It is not Robert's job to police Anna and Finn's relationship; Anna is not some young girl who needs to be protected from a big bag liar/cheater/criminal. Yes Hayden clearly wants Finn back, but Finn hasn't done anything wrong. My reaction to it all was "We get it Robert - you don't like FInn, you'll always think the worst of him, you don't think he deserves Anna, and you still have feelings for Anna." Well Anna chose to accept Finn's proposal and doesn't like the way Finn is handling their relationship and looking at Hayden, she can choose to break up with him.

When Franco got fixated on Elizabeth, he had no thought or consideration for anyone but Jake and Elizabeth, and then for her eldest and youngest sons too because she loved them. It was either the fault of Howarth's acting or the writing that it seemed like Franco only tried to be nice to the three kids as a means to make Elizabeth love him. I still remember that Elizabeth brought up Sam, and his reaction was "What about Sam? Who CARES about SAM?" Elizabeth gave him a WTH is wrong with you?? look because Sam had in fact been one of his victims. Franco was extremely dismissive of anyone who brought up having been hurt by him. Franco only took a real turn toward 'nice guy' after he and Drew dropped the hostility when Betsy's old boyfriend tried to get rid of them. That was the start of the 'Elizabeth and Franco friendship with Drew and Kim, bonding over teenage sons/the sadness of terminally ill Oscar.' Nope. She correctly called Kim out on trying to ease her own conscience about husband stealing when Kim tried to insist she thought of Elizabeth as a friend. She got all snarly that Elizabeth and Scott brought up her attempted rape of Drew in court as a means to label her crazy/hang on to "Drew," and won't accept Franco is gone and that "Drew and I love each other." She went off in a huff saying she would always be grateful for Elizabeth's support when Oscar was dying. The message was basically, you don't have any idea of what I've been through because your son Jake came back, and you're a bitch for trying to stop us - a couple in love - from being together.