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After reading that latest TVLine spoiler article, I think that this may be the last Arrow season for me. At this point, I have no desire even to watch 510.

Malcolm Merlyn and Damien Darhk return in LoT 210... Legion of Doom’s On a Hunt In Legends of Tomorrow Winter Premiere Pics Anthony Couto Jan. 9, 2017 http://www.cbr.com/legion-of-dooms-on-a-hunt-in-legends-of-tomorrow-winter-premiere-pics/

If Ian Somerhalder is going to join a DC show, he's going to be pretty busy. He just got a green light from The CW for a new show, Transience, that he's producing... Ian Somerhalder & Nikki Reed Producing ‘Transience’ Drama Project For the CW by Nellie Andreeva • December 9, 2016 5:11pm http://deadline.com/2016/12/the-cw-buys-transience-drama-writer-thomas-brandon-1201867933/

Another interesting article on CW ratings vs. distribution... The CW is using Netflix’s formula to dominate the superhero genre on TV Julia Alexander Jan. 9, 2017 http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/9/14215208/cw-netflix-flash-arrow-supergirl

Nothing spoilery said, but posting here since JH is still a spoiler (you can at least check out her current hair style)...

I haven't seen that deleted scene anywhere. A reminder from SA...

This article was retweeted by MG... How DC’s Legends of Tomorrow teaches viewers how to be a feminist ally Tricia Ennis Tue, Jan 03, 2017 6:49pm http://www.blastr.com/2017-1-3/how-dcs-legends-tomorrow-teaches-viewers-how-be-feminist-ally Article's bullet points: "Lesson one: Give credit when it’s due" "Lesson two: Elevate women to positions of power" "Lesson three: Listen and support"

Because Comics. Lois Lane was the iconic love of Superman but she famously didn't know that he was Clark Kent, which was a big secret that he kept from her. (I don't read the comics, so I don't know when/if this changed.)

This video is of a 2013 Media Technology Summit that Mark Pedowitz attended in NYC (only recently posted on youtube) - I tried to watch this entire panel, but honestly, it was a yawner, so please don't ask me what they said... President's Panel What We Love Hate About Digital Distribution HD Published on Oct 5, 2016, by Landmark Ventures https://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/67859/131380/

This video includes portions of SA/DR panel at Wizard World New Orleans... Stephen Amell and David Paul Ramsey Panel Wizard World Comic Con New Orleans 2017 Published on Jan 10, 2017, by Geek Squire -- SA noted that morning's announcement that Arrow, Flash, LoT and Supergirl were renewed for another season and joked about Supernatural being renewed "for Season 28" (lol) -- DR noted that he and SA are the only two actors who have been in all 100 episodes. -- Fan asked which was better, DC Cinematic Universe or Marvel Cinematic Universe. SA answered: "Marvel has a better track record in the cinematic universe. Um, concurrently, nothing touches Nolan's Batman trilogy." -- SA gave a mild spoiler for back half of this season: -- Fan asked if he was anything like his character, Oliver Queen. SA replied: "Stubborn." DR: "Yeah, he's - you are stubborn - but smart. Both really smart. Actually, Stephen's very smart." -- SA said that Johnny White's is his favorite bar in New Orleans. DR said that they "danced a lot last night, but in two different places." -- Fan asked about their most memorable moments on the show. SA said that when you first put on the suit, that's pretty memorable. But he also mentioned that director David Nutter had told him that he wanted to make a pilot that was "undeniable" so that the network would have to make the series and that, after one take of a scene from the pilot with him, DR and Suzanne Thompson, David Nutter came up to him and said "Undeniable!" This was a deleted scene from S1 that was cut from the pilot and involved Oliver speaking up for Diggle because Moira wanted to fire Diggle, since Oliver kept ditching him. SA will never forget that moment. DR talked about the S1 scene where Diggle looks in the back seat of the car and Oliver is gone. He said that David Nutter came up and said to him and AK, "Do you feel it? Do you feel it? This show's going, man." And DR and AK were like, 'Don't say that, don't jinx it." DR said that he didn't feel it until he saw the pilot and then knew that this show was going to go to air. DR: "There was nothing I saw that year that even came close to the pilot." -- Fan asked if they thought Oliver could still beat The Flash now that The Flash is more experienced. DR: "I think Arrow would still win. I just think experience trumps power... I think Oliver Queen would find a way like Bruce Wayne would to beat all the superpowered guys... Oliver Queen kinda deals with this criminal aspect, this dark side of himself a lot like Bruce Wayne, right? And I just think that that's what gives him the edge. And Barry Allen just doesn't have that." SA: "Agree." -- Mod asked if they thought Oliver was already assessing the other superhero teams for weaknesses. SA: "I think Oliver has already researched kryptonite, for sure... Like, kryptonite. And how do I take away his superspeed. And I might need to waste these guys at a certain point and I'm gonna need to have my bag of tricks." DR: "What about some of that element in the next crossover? That would be kinda dope... Just that Oliver Queen would think that way is an interesting twist." -- DR would love to see Bruce Wayne "duke it out" with Oliver Queen. -- Fan asked about seeing the "iconic" goatee again, whether Nyssa will ever return, and getting Sara Lance's number. SA: "Last question, first answer: C'mon, man... (to the Nyssa question) I hope so. And the answer to the first question is, if we ever saw a version of the goatee, we'd be able to do it after the end of Season 5."

The CW’s Mark Pedowitz Says Breaking Up with Hulu Has Given the Network a ‘Massive’ Digital Boost Michael Schneider Jan 8, 2017 1:34 pm http://www.indiewire.com/2017/01/the-cw-hulu-netflix-mark-pedowitz-supernatural-the-100-1201765753/

Moved to Ratings thread.

Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Arrow, Criminal Minds, Code Black, Legends, Once, Timeless, S.H.I.E.L.D. and More By Matt Webb Mitovich / January 9 2017, 10:27 AM PST http://tvline.com/2017/01/09/arrow-season-5-spoilers-felicity-darker/

Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Arrow, Criminal Minds, Code Black, Legends, Once, Timeless, S.H.I.E.L.D. and More By Matt Webb Mitovich / January 9 2017, 10:27 AM PST http://tvline.com/2017/01/09/arrow-season-5-spoilers-felicity-darker/

At Wizard World New Orleans, someone asked SA and DR what they hope to see in next season's big crossover event (video posted by Derek LaBouve)...

Where are you guys reading that Team Arrow is going to Russia in 512? I must've missed a spoiler somewhere. At the TCAs, "Andrew Kreisberg said that Black Flash would appear on multiple DC shows, fulfilling his Grim Reaper function from the comic books." I wonder if Arrow is included among those "multiple DC shows" and, if so, who will die this season.

I don't think the EPs have decided anything for sure. I think they're just testing out things this season. But the most likely love triangle would be Oliver, Felicity and Tina (the hero/blonde/brunette cliche). To be clear, I don't want this to happen and I'm hoping they won't go there.

Apparently Mark Pedowitz (The CW President) received applause when he entered for his executive session at the TCAs because the broadcast networks all declined to have executive sessions this year (Fox added an executive session at the last minute due to complaints). Also, you can go to article link to read additional news about The CW's non-superhero shows... TCA 2017: CW DAY REVEALS SUPERGIRL-FLASH MUSICAL VILLAIN, COVERS CHARMED, DYNASTY REBOOTS AND MORE by Fred Topel | January 8, 2017 | https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/tca-2017-cw-day-supergirl-flash-musical-villain-covers-charmed-dynasty-reboots-and-more/ CW’s Mark Pedowitz Talks ‘Supergirl,’ ‘Riverdale’ and Critical Acclaim Maureen Ryan JANUARY 8, 2017 | 10:42AM PT http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cw-president-supergirl-crazy-ex-girlfriend-renewal-1201955096/

As I said before, I don't think Tina will be a love interest for anyone this season. I think they'll have her temporarily join Team Arrow at first, with possible permanence at the end of the season, and also test her chemistry with Oliver and/or other team members. I think they're still figuring out who to keep on the team next season. Most likely, Curtis, Wild Dog and Tina (because they want another female fighter). It's S6 that's the concern. GB does seem to love his love triangles. But I hope I'm wrong and that they settle Oliver's love life once and for all by the end of this season.

See, I'm not the only one speculating that Billy Malone might be Prometheus ;) (different theory, tho')... ‘Arrow’ season 5 theory: Is Billy Malone actually Prometheus? JANUARY 8, 2017 B http://cartermatt.com/238384/arrow-season-5-theory-billy-malone-actually-prometheus/

Remember Tiera Skovbye, who played Madison Danforth in episode 402 of Arrow? Well, she'll be in Riverdale - playing Polly Cooper (Betty's troublemaker sister).

Arrow S5 is currently in 1st place (Bamford retweeted this poll)... BEST ACTION TV SHOWS 2016 January 2017 http://budomate.com/best-action-tv-shows-2016/

This RG tweet was retweeted by both the official CW Arrow and Warner Bros. TV twitter accounts...

Spoiler Room: Scoop on Originals, Scandal, Prison Break and more NATALIE ABRAMS JANUARY 6, 2017 AT 1:31PM EST http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/06/spoiler-room-originals-scandal-prison-break/