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Hope it's not Colin Donnell... Mega Buzz: Who's Leaving Chicago Med? by Liz Raftery | Dec 20, 2016 5:02 PM EST http://www.tvguide.com/news/chicago-med-spoilers-season-2-death/?ftag=TVG_Twitter

Two times that MG has used the "cart dragging the horse" metaphor in interviews... CS Interview: Marc Guggenheim Takes You Inside Trollhunters Silas Lesnick December 21, 2016 http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/features/797055-marc-guggenheim-trollhunters ARROW'S EXECUTIVE PRODUCER SHARES THE SECRET TO FELICITY AND OLIVER'S CHEMISTRY Kaitlin Menza May 14, 2014 http://okmagazine.com/meet-the-stars/arrows-executive-producer-shares-the-secret-to-felicity-and-olivers-chemistry/

Iris West's Hilarious Line in The CW DC Crossover Wasn't In The Script Jay Jayson 12/22/2016 http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/12/23/iris-wests-hilarious-line-in-the-cw-dc-crossover-wasnt-in-the-sc/ https://twitter.com/candicekp/status/812065489551814657 https://twitter.com/candicekp/status/81206669504095436

Explains a lot (sorry, too snarky?)... Marc Guggenheim: From Del Toro’s Trollhunters to Marvel’s X-Men Scott Huver Dec. 22, 2016 http://www.cbr.com/marc-guggenheim-from-del-toros-trollhunters-to-a-classic-roster-of-marvels-x-men/

THIS... Oliver and Felicity - It's magic [5x09] Published on Dec 13, 2016, by NewViRe LoVe

14 TV Moments That Broke Our Hearts in 2016 Dec. 21, 2016 by SAMANTHA http://fangirlish.com/heartbreaking-tv-moments-2016/

I think that The Flash could very well run for 10 seasons, given its current success on The CW, so I doubt very much that Barry & Iris will be happily together for the next 7 years. Following up on previous comments... I agree that it's very understandable that, if you know a bad future awaits you, then you'll do everything you can to change that future. Since the future hasn't happened yet, you arguably can do that. The past, on the other hand, has already happened - you can't change that, so it isn't even a question. However, if people did have the power to change their past (like Barry actually does), then it would also be understandable if everyone wanted to go back in time and change past bad decisions, save lost ones, etc. Yes, in Flashpoint, Barry saved his mother but hurt his friends' lives - yet he also vastly improved his parent's lives. Didn't his mother also deserve to live a long and happy life? Well, I suppose you can argue that she died and that's in the past and shouldn't be changed, but why not? If Barry had not told his friends and reversed what he did, then no one would've known that they ever had other lives. Barry's Flashpoint was detrimental to some lives but beneficial to other lives. Similarly, by (understandably) changing their predicted bad futures, won't Barry & friends' actions also have consequences? They could be improving their own futures, but hurting the futures of other people. Past versus future? Some theorize that the past, present and future all exist simultaneously (the "block universe" theory). This would mean that the future has already happened in the same way that the past has already happened. Stephen King even wrote a novella, later turned into a miniseries called The Langoliers, that's kinda based on this theory. So there would be no difference between trying to change the past and trying to change the future. Can the future be changed? There have been plenty of movies and tv shows positing that the future is fixed and that, no matter what you do, you end up at the same point. That is, there are fixed points in time. And sometimes it's what you do to try to change the future that leads to the very future that you were trying to prevent. (I can't think of specific examples right now, but I know I've seen them.) Of course, there are also plenty of movies and tv shows positing that the future can be changed (example: The Terminator). Should the future be changed? Then there are plenty of movies and tv shows positing that sometimes you shouldn't change the future because such change would lead to greater disaster. I recently saw an old Doctor Who episode, "The Waters of Mars," in which the Doctor visits the first human colony on Mars in 2059, headed by Captain Adelaide Brooke. The Doctor knows that Adelaide is fated to die in the near future and that her death is pivotal because it will inspire her granddaughter to go into space, leading to further space exploration and meeting alien lifeforms. But the Doctor becomes arrogant and decides to use his power to save her. Adelaide then questions his right to make such judgments and ends up committing suicide, thus ensuring that the original timeline is unchanged. And then there's the classic Star Trek episode, "City on the Edge of Forever," where Kirk is transported back to 1930's Earth and sees two possible futures, one in which Edith Keeler dies, and one in which she lives but her living delays U.S. entry into WWII, leading to a Nazi victory. He has to let her die in order to restore the original timeline. It would be interesting to see if The Flash sets up the tropey scenario where Barry has to choose between saving Iris and saving Central City (or the world). Bottom line, I guess the question is whether changing the future could have bad consequences as well as good consequences - just as changing the past had both good and bad consequences. However, a lot of this discussion is probably moot since we all know that Iris will not die (probably the least cliff-hangery of any cliff-hanger ever in the Arrowverse). The only question is, will The Flash then show any bad consequences to saving her life? Will there be a cost? And if so, who will pay it?

UPDATED 2017 media events/comic-con schedule... Television Critics Association (TCA) 2017 Winter Press Tour, January 5-18, 2017 (Los Angeles, CA) Mark Pedowitz - The CW and Golden Globes - Jan. 8 http://tvcritics.org/press-tour-schedule-overview/ Wizard World's New Orleans Comic Con, January 6-8, 2017 (New Orleans, LA) Stephen Amell and David Ramsey http://wizardworld.com/comiccon/neworleans A Heroes & Villains and Walker Stalker Joint Event: Heroes & Villains FanFest-Chicago, March 25-26, 2017 (Chicago, IL) Stephen Amell and David Ramsey (also Caity Lotz and Robbie Amell) http://heroesfanfest.com/chicago/ http://walkerstalkercon.com/chicago/guests/ Fan Expo Dallas, March 31-April 2, 2017 (Dallas, TX) Katie Cassidy and John Barrowman http://fanexpodallas.com/guests/ The Great Philadelphia Comic-Con, April 7-9, 2017 (Philadelphia, PA) Wil Traval http://www.philadelphiacomiccon.com/ Calgary Expo, April 27-30, 2017 (Danielle Panabaker) https://calgaryexpo.com/guests/media-guests/ Rogue Events' The City of Heroes 3, May 19-21, 2017 (Telford, England, UK) (Mehcad Brooks, Wentworth Miller and John Wesley Shipp) https://rogueevent.co.uk/wordpress/city-heroes-3/ Motor City Comic Con, May 19-21, 2017 (Motor City, MI) Katrina Law https://www.motorcitycomiccon.com/ MegaCon Orlando, May 25-28, 2017 (Orlando, FL) Katie Cassidy and John Barrowman (also Carlos Valdes and Tom Felton) http://megaconorlando.com/guests/ Heroes & Villains FanFest-London, May 27-28, 2017 (London, UK) Stephen Amell, Katie Cassidy, Colin Donnell and Michael Rowe (also Melissa Benoist, Carlos Valdes and Shantel VanSanten) http://heroesfanfest.com/london/ Starfury: The Ultimates, June 2-4, 2017 (Blackpool, UK) Paul Blackthorne (also Violett Beane) http://starfury.co.uk/events/ultimates/index.html Super Heroes Con III, June 3-4, 2017 (Paris, France) David Ramsey (also Wentworth Miller) http://www.people-convention.com/en/pages/next-events/super-heroes-con.html Heroes & Villains FanFest-Portland, June 24-25, 2017 (Portland, OR) Stephen Amell, David Ramsey and Katrina Law (also Brandon Routh) http://heroesfanfest.com/portland/ Heroes & Villains FanFest-Nashville, July 8-9, 2017 (Nashville, TN) Stephen Amell, David Ramsey and Katrina Law (also Robbie Amell) http://heroesfanfest.com/nashville/ SAN DIEGO COMIC CON INTERNATIONAL, July 20-23, 2017 No guests posted yet, but assume Arrowverse cast/producers will attend. http://www.comic-con.org/cci Boston Comic Con, August 11, 13, 2017 (Boston, MA) John Barrowman (also Caity Lotz, Danielle Panabaker, Ciara Renee and Robbie Amell) http://bostoncomiccon.com/celebrity-guests/ Fan Expo Canada, August 31-September 3, 2017 (Toronto, Canada) Katie Cassidy, John Barrowman and Alex Kingston (also Danielle Panabaker) http://fanexpocanada.com/guests/ Heroes & Villains FanFest-New York, September 16-17 2017 (New York, NY) Stephen Amell and Katrina Law (also Robbie Amell) http://heroesfanfest.com/newyork/ Delta Fan Fest, September 17-18, 2016 (Southaven, MS) Katrina Law http://www.deltafanfest.com/guests.html NEW YORK COMIC CON, October 5-8, 2017 No guests posted yet, but assume Arrow actors/producers will attend. http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/ Dallas Fan Days, October 20-22, 2017 (Dallas, TX) (Danielle Panabaker) http://dallascomiccon.com/guests/ Fan Expo Vancouver, November 10-12, 2017 (Vancouver, Canada) David Ramsey, John Barrowman, Neal McDonough and Alex Kingston (also Tom Cavanaugh, Candice Patton and Tom Felton) http://fanexpovancouver.com/guests/

But that's my question. If saving Iris from being murdered in the future is not selfish, then saving his mother from being murdered in the past is not selfish - yet Barry was considered selfish for Flashpoint. Also, I thought the point about time travel is that what you change in any time period (past, present, future) has ripples throughout many lives. So if Barry changes the past or the future by saving someone he loves, then that will also affect other lives. Example: Barry hides Iris away so that she can't be killed, so Savitar kills someone else instead.

Why One Flash Actor May Have Trouble Returning BY LAURA HURLEY Dec. 21, 2016 http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1603000/why-one-flash-actor-may-have-trouble-returning

ARROW’S STEPHEN AMELL HITS MARKETING BULL’S EYE Posted on December 21, 2016 by Beth Negus Viveiros http://www.chiefmarketer.com/blog/arrows-stephen-amell-hits-marketing-bulls-eye/

How is Barry going into the future to save Iris any different from him going into the past to save his mother? He's still acting for his own selfish purposes, regardless of possible ramifications on other people's lives. Yes, I understand that it's only one possible future, but changing this particular future could affect other people as well, and not necessarily for the better. And yes, it's arguable that it's not entirely selfish since he's saving Iris, but the same point could've been made with respect to saving his mother. I thought he learned his lesson with Flashpoint, but he's doing the same thing again. Does future versus past really make it okay? I am genuinely puzzled.

In response to fan who asked how it was being on Arrow...

Marc Guggenheim Talks del Toro's 'Trollhunters,' Confirms More DC/CW Crossovers Posted December 20, 2016 by Scott Huver https://www.moviefone.com/2016/12/20/marc-guggenheim-trollhunters-dc-cw-crossovers/

10 Most Epic TV Superhero Moments in 2016, From ‘Arrow’ to ‘Luke Cage’ (Photos) Linda Ge | December 19, 2016 @ 6:41 PM http://www.thewrap.com/10-biggest-epic-tv-superhero-moments-2016-arrow-luke-cage-supergirl/

Two articles on Felicity currently leading the fan vote in The Hollywood Reporter's Favorite Female Character poll... Is Arrow’s Felicity Smoak the Best Female Character of All Time? by I. A. Melton Dec. 20, 2016 http://culturess.com/2016/12/20/arrows-felicity-smoak-the-best-female-character-of-all-time/ What Makes Arrow’s Felicity Smoak a Great Character Amy Woolsey Dec. 20, 2016 http://culturess.com/2016/12/20/makes-arrows-felicity-smoak-great-character/

Marc Guggenheim: There are "A Few Felicities" On Netflix's Trollhunters Russ Burlingame 12/20/2016 http://comicbook.com/2016/12/21/marc-guggenheim-there-are-a-few-felicities-on-netflixs-trollhunt/

EK looks great in this shot...

Nice interview (no spoilers) - his full name is Emmanuel Echo Kellum.. Echo Kellum -Talks “Arrow” and more! DECEMBER 20, 2016 Jayme Face http://www.upfrontny.com/echo-kellum-talks-arrow-and-more/

I loved the original Blade Runner movie, but I have mixed feelings about this sequel... BLADE RUNNER 2049 Official Teaser Trailer (2017) Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford Sci-Fi Movie HD Published on Dec 19, 2016, by JoBlo Movie Trailers

Another great Sky1 promo...

Includes Flash spoiler... Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on Big Bang, Homeland, The Flash, Supernatural, Gilmore Girls, The 100 and More By Michael Ausiello / December 20 2016, 11:53 AM PST http://tvline.com/2016/12/20/the-big-bang-theory-season-10-spoilers-sheldon-amy-ask-ausiello/

Instead of building audience trust over five years, the Arrow EPs have built up audience mistrust. At this point, I don't expect them to make logical decisions or CW-type decisions when it comes to relationships on the show. They now seem to take pride in doing the unexpected, in shocking and surprising the audience, in epic game-changers - even over consistency or logic. They also seem to take a perverse pleasure in foiling expectations. So, now, I don't know what to expect - so I kinda expect the worst (but hope for the best).