FaithsMum

I haven't read all this thread yet and I only learned about their impending divorce five minutes ago. And, I mean, of course I am shocked since I thought they would remain married and besotted until their dying days! Being the mean girl that I am, I am still cackling with glee. I have no sympathy for Lu, sorry. *shrugs* I don't believe for a single second she didn't know what she was getting into or that she was even all loved up in the first place with Tom as a person. The only thing Lu loved was the idea of being a "wife" again and financial security where she can live the high life like she did with the Count. And I find it even more hilarious that she has given up her beloved Countess title for that. Countess was so much part of her identity and allowed her to behave as if she isn't LuAnn from Connecticut - or at least delude herself into it - irrespective of the fact that the country she lives in doesn't even acknowledge titles (mine does - I'm surprised she's not seeking out a Brit in the hope of becoming Lady LuAnn) She always believed it gave her far more prestige than it did and although she claims she used it in "good fun," yeah it was pretentious as fuck. No one is buying that it was used tongue-in-cheek, Lu. My autocorrect is as shady as I am because it keeps changing "countess" to "countless," lol. So yep, I'm spiteful arse is across the Atlantic cackling at the news. And I don't even dislike LuAnn. Slutty "be cool, don't be all, like, uncool" LuAnn is one of my faves!

The most interesting thing about this season for me is this: I only watched a few episodes of last season which I remember exactly zero of so Kelly is still "new" to me. However, everytime she comes on the screen, my baby cries. Literally every single time, and stops crying as soon as it switches to someone else. I've seriously had to stop watching it when she's in the room. Coincidentally my daughter has the exact same date of birth as Aspen. Clearly all babies born on that day are smart af because Aspen knows too. I don't even know why I'm bothering with this show anymore; it's not even so bad it's good, it's just boring. I miss Heather because at least she had more than three braincells. And Horseface and her loopy mother irritated me the first time around.

TPTB at Bravo are arseholes for bringing Riley's father (and I use that word loosely) onto the show. While I recognise that Kandi is her mother and she allows her to be filmed, as decent human beings we have an obligation to protect the babies. Riley is a child; this should not be played out on TV for the entertainment of the viewers and ratings. Fuck you, Bravo.

That little girl Noelle is by far the smartest and most perceptive person on this show. From what little we see of her she seems like a great kid. Did anyone else notice how gleeful Mama Joyce was when she said about how much the restaurant is costing? You know she wants it to fail. She's such a fucking spiteful woman. Even if she loathes Todd (which I believe she still does, she just realises it's in her interest to play nice) that is your daughters husband, it's a joint venture and we all know Kandi has put the lionshare of the cash in... why the fuck would any mother not be rooting for its success? She and her sisters are awful and I'm bored of Andy's love affair with them. Hey Andy, even Kandi doesn't seem to like her mother all that much. I love me some Sheree. Her comic timing and delivery is second to none and she's one of the few genuinely funny Housewives. Most of the time I'm laughing at their stupidity but Sheree is genuinely amusing with some of the greatest one liners in Housewives history.

I completely agree; I don't think Gia was a brat at all nor do I think Teresa handled it badly - I would have comforted my kid and validated her feelings too. Some kids take games way more seriously than others and leaving to calm down was actually a very mature way for that little girl to handle her upset. I had forgotten Caroline was a part of it too though. Gia repeatedly asking for her mother while being cornered and taunted by Jac (and Caroline) was kinda heartbreaking for me and for that alone, I could never even entertain the idea of liking them. I fully believe they derived huge amounts of pleasure out of Gia's distress because IIRC Jac kept laughing as she was trying to shove that stupid book in her face.

I didn't see it that way at all. Gia was a little girl who was taking a game far more seriously than the adults who were also playing. Jac should have left her alone like Gia wanted to cool off instead of taunting her with a book on sportsmanship. That wasn't her place - and Jac enjoyed that little girls distress.

Jesus wept, Jac is a child. She's like a jealous boyfriend who doesn't want to share his girlfriend with anyone else and wants the be the most important, if not only, person in her life: "maybe Robyn is closer to Teresa now." Well so what if she is? That doesn't invalidate your friendship or mean you can't hang out with her other friends. Does anyone over the age of fourteen think about a friend's hierarchy the way Jac does? It's weird! I can't stand Spoon Face but she was right when she said that her mother acts like a twelve year old. Spoon Face has always had her mother's number; it's just unfortunate that she's so fucking obnoxious too. Jac becomes more unhinged and more immature with every season. Melissa was right in the limo about Jac constantly inserting herself in the cousins drama. Stfu. Tre has asked more than once you stay out of it yet she apparently feels it's her job to act as the Wakile mouthpiece.

I literally LOL'ed when Juicy said "you look beautiful. I love you. Your dog's ugly." I know he's a crook and throughly obnoxious and appalling when he's been drinking but, damn, I just can't quit him. No, I wouldn't want to be married to him or even know him in real life but, for me, there's just something so likeable about him (when sober). I think part of it is that he's so unapologetically him. I don't recall in seven seasons where he's put on a show for the cameras; he's all "it is what it is, what ya gonna do?" I believe Tre when she talks about her marriage and that they are "soulmates." I don't think she's planning to divorce him while he's away. They are both hugely flawed people but I absolutely believe that there is a lot of true, genuine love between them just like I believe they're both madly in love with their girls regardless of how Joe talks to them at times. I'm not giving him a pass on it, he's a dick but I don't think he's the worst parent who ever lived either. Gia is so smart and perceptive although it is very sad that she's gotten that way by having a responsibility forced on her she should not have had to undertake while Tre was at "camp." I recently watched the Teresa Checks In episodes, she's so articulate in her TH's. That child is smarter than all the adults on the show combined. Also: stfu Rosie. Joe has bigger problems than you. Teresa does not think about you; you're not important enough to her that she'd forbid Joe from seeing you because she gives zero fucks since she has no interest in you, your sister or her creepy husband. I've never been a Rosie fan, though and I took an instant dislike to her during her first appearance in season three.

I just watched two episodes and they have been so freaking boring. Next week's previews seems like the show will get more interesting though; I knew Tre and loony Jac couldn't keep up their besties act for long. Jac's obsession with Tre is really odd though. They haven't been friends in years now and I wish I could believe it's for the show but she's spent the intervening years tweeting up a storm about the Juicy's so I'm inclined to believe she really is THAT obsessed. Also, keep Spoon Face Ashlee off my iPad screen, thanks Bravo. I didn't think it was possible for her face to become any more spoon like but indeed it has with all that cosmetic surgery she's had so well done on accomplishing that, I guess. I can't believe that moron is procreating - three generations of Jacqueline. Jesus.

I have come away from this season really liking Stephanie. Yeah, she's not too smart but she's harmless, genuine and loyal with a good heart. Stephanie's friendship with Brandi redeems the latter for me; it's real and true and solid. I loved earlier on in the season when LeeAnne had that sitdown with Stephanie and Cary and told Steph if she wanted to become a society chick she'd have to ditch Brandi. I loved she didn't sell her bestie out. Sure, that's basically what friendship is and we would all expect that but this is housewives so my standards are low. I laughed a few episodes back when she said she wanted to marry Brandi so they all built a house because me and my bestie joke all the time that if I ever get divorced and she splits from her boyfriend, we'll get married and live happily ever after with our brood of kids. I really hope if there's a second season their friendship withstands producer shenanigans and doesn't go down the NJ route because I would (rather ridiculously) be heartbroken since Brandi is likeable, for me, when she and Stephanie are just hanging out being besties. There is clearly a lot of love, history and affection between them and I'd be sad if they allowed their fame whoring to destroy it. PS, my husband is a doctor too. As homage to Cary I will forevermore manage to slip that into every post I make at least twice. Casually, you know? Because I'm humble bragging but don't want you all to think I'm actually bragging.

What the fuck kind of name is Maverick? Do these morons hate their children or something? Bintlee. Maverick. Novalee. All of Leah's many A named children. Remington. Lincoln. The fuck is wrong with them?

Recognising anxiety for what it is, is a process and requires some self analysis which I suspect Jenelle isn't capable of otherwise she'd be a better person, lol. I have suffered from anxiety since my teens; it is treated and has been for eight years but it's severity is directly linked to the severity of my anorexia at that time. Most of mine is related to my calorie consumption but I do have other issues. Like, at weekend I had a home visit from hospital and went to stay at my best friends. At 2am, my best friend had to call FaithsDad to come get me because I was having a meltdown since I wanted to go home. I was fine until I wasn't. It's completely irrational; it's my best friend and I am comfortable there and I don't feel unsafe but I NEED to go home because I have a hard time being away from home/hospital if it's overnight. Ten years ago though, I wouldn't have recognised that as being part of my anxiety disorder - I used to just put it down to being a homebody . Plus it's very difficult to recognise that something is caused by your anxiety when you're actually in it. It takes way more self awareness than Jenelle has to recognise that this is anxiety and you're being irrational. It doesn't help either that Jenelle doesn't have normal, well adjusted people around her, she has sycophants and Babs... Uncle Dave was basically indulging her and Babs is over it. I don't blame either of them for those reactions but they're unproductive.

I don't think she was faking either - anxiety is often irrational and it's often perceived as someone simply being a drama queen. Of course, it doesn't help because Jenelle IS dramatic. Generally speaking IME if she had merely wanted drugs, she'd have been way more calculated about it and less all over the place; she'd have picked a couple of symptoms and stuck to them. Addicts who want drugs and have invented symptoms generally don't want tests done because MRI's, blood work etc can catch them out yet Jenelle was desperate for the results of the MRI and I don't think that desperation was fake. Do I think there's anything physically wrong with Jenelle? No. But I think she thinks there is. I fully believe Jenelle suffers with anxiety and as someone else in that position (although mine is treated since we don't punish addicts for the rest of their lives here) and though I loathe her, I can't help feel bad for her because she is suffering, and that is cruel. If/when she eventually ends up back on heroin because she's self medicating, I am going to wonder if her anxiety had been treated, would she be in that position now?

I loathe Jenelle with the heat of a thousand suns but, as an addict and a nurse, I think the US laws regarding narcotics are ridiculous and cause unnecessary suffering. IF Jenelle truly is suffering from anxiety then she should be treated as anyone else would because to not do so is cruel and goes against everything, as medical professionals, we are taught. I have epilepsy and osteoporosis as a result of anorexia which aren't the best combination since I frequently break bones; I almost always have a broken bone or two but I am prescribed analgesics regardless of my addiction because pain is pain. When I was well enough to work, prior to my hospitalisation, I worked on A+E where addicts were a daily occurrence. Even if we were almost certain they wanted a prescription to get high on and their "injury" was invented, we were told to believe them and to give them pain relief since it is far worse to leave someone who is truly suffering (addict or not) in pain than it is to give an addict a weeks supply of a weak opiod. As much as it pains me to say it, Jenelle has a point about the benzos and her addiction to heroin. They're not the same. There is this misconception that addicts will take whatever drug, anytime and for many of us that isn't true. I am a picky addict; I abused opiods since they're my drugs of choice. I have had brief periods of abusing (pharmaceutical) stimulants to lose weight but I had neither a physical tolerance or a psychological addiction to them; I used them purely when I hit a wall in weight loss and in that respect are unrelated to my drug addiction - they're an "anorexia thing" rather than a "drug thing" because I hate stimulants and I wouldn't touch them otherwise. I have smoked weed maybe three times in my life back when I was a teenager. I take benzos as a recovery drug for my epilepsy and a low dose of diazepam PRN when my anxiety is bad and I have never abused either because I hate them too and could quite happily never have to take either the midazolam or diazepam again for the rest of my life. I have no idea which camp Jenelle falls into, she may be the type of addict who will take whatever is available, but just because a drug is addictive doesn't necessarily mean an addict will become addicted to it since it's untrue that all addicts are non discrimatory.

Dear Leeanne, Once you're past the age of twenty five which we all know you are, you no longer get to blame your childhood for being an arsehole and expecting a free pass on said arsehole behaviour. You're almost fifty, you choose who you want to be - I'm twenty years younger and even I've figured this out. Grow up. Yours Sincerely, Someone who pays Hayu £3.99 a month to watch you act like a fool which quite possibly makes me the bigger fool.

I can only assume that LeeAnn learned to apply blusher from the clowns at the carnival. She's so ridiculous. I actually liked Stephanie and Cary slightly more than normal for the zero fucks they give and I LOL'ed when Cary pretty much said that LeeAnn is delusional, she's not some high society chick. Yeah, I know she didn't say exactly that but we all know it's what she meant, lol. I'm glad they didn't indulge LeeAnn and though I think Brandi is a weird looking freak with the mental age of a child, I'm glad Stephanie didn't sell out her friend of twenty years. Edit: LeeAnn's "I'm ten years older, show me respect" monologue had me rolling my eyes so hard. Brandi is thirty six years old, not sixteen... But then I am from a family and a place where an adult is an adult is an adult irrespective of whether you're twenty five or fifty five.

I have just watched the first two episodes back to back and it was ten minutes before the end of the second that I realised Kristen and Heather are no longer on the show. I'm not sure if this says more about me or them, lol.

Does anyone know how old these women are? Even a guesstimate because with all that both I can't tell if, for example, Brandi is 25 or 55. Damn, she looks weird sometimes.

So I'm watching this now on the amazing invention which is Hayu. I feel like the Reality God's blessed me with this new streaming site since it no longer means I have to watch these bitches by, um, less legal methods. Anyway, I'm cracking up at Leeanne. Has their ever been a bigger social climber? "Billionaires know my name!" Um, how insecure must you be to feel that's an accomplishment? They're just people, albeit people with a lot of money, but still people. That said, I grew up privileged and I'm still a pampered little princess with a trust fund so maybe I'm just not that impressed by money because it isn't alien to me. "I worked hard to get where I am" OK Leeanne, you're a social climber. Since I'm not one I'm gonna have to take your word for it because my privileged arse has a real job (I'm a nurse) which doesn't further my society status. They're all a bunch of try hards aren't they?

I was in Dubai for a month almost two years ago and I had to walk around that freaking shopping centre, which btw is pretty big. Walk! With my actual legs! With whiny kids whining about "only having little legs." I was like "hey kiddos, I'm 5ft and that's only if I fluff up my curls to add an inch or two, my legs are little too." Colour me bitter that those bitches got driven around. The UAE is a weird country - it wants the expats and the tourism but ultimately it's a pretty strict Muslim country whose legal system is partly derived from Sharia law. Western tourists aren't advised to stray out of tourist areas and I imagine the camera crew added additional problems. My friend works for Emirates and lives in the non-tourist areas (since she's of Indian descent, she blends in with the locals) and I visited her several times with my (Muslim but not religious) husband none of which were pleasant experiences since we were both verbally abused in the street - I speak Arabic so I understood perfectly that I'm a "whore" and my husband is a "traitor" for marrying the "white blonde whore." Thankfully FaithsDad doesn't speak Arabic and I lied and said they spoke too fast for me to be able to translate. To be fair to the HW's, they're best sticking to the areas they did.

Well, it's kinda not but it kinda is too which I realise isn't very helpful, lol - it's faux BBC accent. I don't know the actor outside of Mad Men but I'd wager that isn't his real accent since it sounds affected but then many RP (received pronunciation) accents are affected anyway in the sense that the people who use them learned to speak without a regional accent rather than it being organic. Pryce just needs a bit more practise but if he ever wanted a career change he'd get a job reading the news! Like Carlton, her accent was affected too. I'd bet she didn't have that accent growing up!

I think we're having an example of a cultural difference here because I was being flip with my reference to having no patience or class. Not entirely untrue though. :) Lisa isn't an Ice Queen. She's reserved - it's an English thing. We're not a "sit down and let's talk about our feelings" nation. Remember Ken's comment about therapy to Taylor? That is a common consensus. Perhaps not as extreme for most but more of a "who the fuck wants to sit and talk about their feelings for an hour to a freaking stranger? And pay for the privilege? Jesus Christ. We'll go to the pub instead" It's a stiff upper lip thing, pull yourself together and keep it moving and if you can't keep it moving, keep it to yourself. My bestie and I refer to Eileen's (and Lisa's) what we perceive as a chronic need to share their feelings as "touchy feely." I wouldn't be sharing pretty much anything more than passing, superficial feelings with these bitches either so they can be used against me at a later date and are forever "out there." To me, this makes LVP smart. That said, Lisa has an agenda in that she's playing the reality TV game and she's one of the few smart enough to play it well. She's also nosy as hell. I love her for it. I have wondered this too but then I thought that maybe it's one of those things she's comfortable discussing on her terms. Like, she originally put it out there before anyone else said it but that doesn't mean it's a narrative she's comfortable with. I'm not sure which I'd prefer; that she's genuinely upset or its manufactured drama since the former has long since become tiresome and the latter is a subpar attempt at creating conflict. Eileen's shit-stirring game isn't strong, she needs to get some tips off Rinna.

I don't want to ruin it for you but my accent is nothing like Lane Pryce's (nor Lisa's). They have what we colloquially call BBC accents and I definitely don't! Lane Pryce could make a takeaway menu sound awesome though and now when I proofread my posts, I'm gonna hear it entirely in his voice and it will be wonderful.

Right. And then she blamed LVP for being incapable of saying what she means - paraphrasing but didn't she say something like "I have difficulty talking and being honest with you" or something? The too many questions is bullshit anyhow. At best these women are acquaintances (at worst, colleagues) and "tell me about your spouse" are pretty standard small talk questions. I don't doubt LVP was hoping to get some dirt because she's nosy as hell but I didn't find her questions particularly intrusive and think the issue lies with Eileen's unresolved guilt which she's somehow trying to make Lisa's problem. I never saw Lisa's original apology as insincere, as such. I think it was unexpected and she was bemused that someone would be offended she asked "too many questions" yet answered every one and didn't say so at the time. I know we can't always trust editing but it didn't appear that Eileen attempted to change the subject or gave any other cues that she wanted to end this line of conversation. Eileen can miss me with all this bullshit and to quote Jenelle from TM2; my feelings for her have dropped.

LVP doesn't think she did anything wrong and by this point, I think she's so irritated by Eileen and her demand for an apology she gives no fucks as to how she feels. I would be exactly the same. Coincidentally I'm English too. :) Although since I have no patience and no class, I would probably have flat out told Eileen the 4565th time she mentioned it I'm not apologising and she should stfu whining on about it and perhaps deal with her unresolved issues as to how she met her husband instead of making her sensitivities for being an adulterer everyone else's problem... Because, as I said, I have no patience and class!