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IIRC it "starts with violence and ends with cake."

This is Arrow - the likelihood of it making any sense outside of Plot! is slim to none, but fingers crossed.

Hopefully they're not already Laureling Other Laurel.

5x22 - Missing: BLACK SIREN RETURNS — Black Siren (guest star Katie Cassidy) returns to help Chase (Josh Segarra). Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) organizes a birthday party for Oliver (Stephen Amell) while Lance (Paul Blackthorne) is furious after Rene (Rick Gonzalez) misses the custody hearing for his daughter. Mairzee Almas directed the episode written by Speed Weed & Oscar Balderrama (#522). Original airdate 5/17/2017.

Claiming the majority of any mindset for a show is ridiculous because the majority of people who watch it never comment about it on the internet.

They think the Olicity fandom is a small number of people with lots of dummy Twitter accounts for trends and who use bots to spam boards and vote in polls to make Felicity and Olicity look like it has a much bigger fandom than it actually does.

People in the SpoilerTV thread are talking about preemption last night, but I thought it was only preempted in LA next week?

They don't. Felicity said as much. Yes - SA said they were making him look rough on purpose.

I think maybe Chase WAS there (setting up that explosion, doing something dastardly), but isn't anymore.

Eating pie together makes it a mortal lock.

She must've left town since she wasn't at the press scrum for the Chase reveal. A great reporter like her would never have missed such a scoop!

Yeah, I think that's what it was - to make sure Felicity couldn't ever come after them.

Seriously. This is the most plot stupid I think anyone has ever been on this show.

AND HE DID IT AGAIN

For real, don't call him Hoss pls.

TWO USES OF HOSS IN LESS THAN A MINUTE, COME ON

It seems as if - based on what we've seen so far - Oliver did actually take her stance on partnership to heart (to the extent that he can given their current relationship - seems he's applying it in general at this point, since he and Felicity are no longer in a romantic partnership), and at least once has tried to remind her of that. So IDK - regardless of what WM said, it doesn't seem like what Felicity told him about partnership is going to be unimportant, but that she's going to need reminding of why she thought that and why she was right. It seems like ultimately the lesson is going to be that they have to work together and lean on each other - I really don't think Felicity's going to be like, "okay, I understand why you did this, let's keep things from each other from now on!"

It's not the way I'd personally want it addressed, but he did promise not to lie to her again, and he does seem to have gotten the point that what he did last year by "going it alone" isn't the right way to deal with things. I'm guessing there will be something in 20 (since Felicity talks about William), but I'm not really expecting much more.

I think maybe she's referring to him asking her to tell him what's going on because keeping secrets never works out well or whatever he said to her, and knowing noting good is going to come out of something she doesn't want to tell anyone about.

Was she ever off the show?

I don't think she's lying. Saying "sorry all Twitter Olicity fans" is just such a freaking weird group to call out during an interview that it seemed rather personal - that's why I assumed Natalie was saying it because she actually engages with Olicity fans on Twitter. Wendy doesn't, and I would've thought said something more general like "sorry Olicity fans"? I should not try and make sense of her.

She posts her work on (and engages with people on) the Arrow reddit, and has in the past seemingly purposely misinterpreted quotes to get a rise out of the Olicity crowd, so...I don't think that believing she made that comment is a stretch.

Well...yikes. LOL @ me for assuming that was Natalie, haha.

It seems to me that since Felicity's been mostly keeping her involvement with Helix to herself and not "leaning on her partners," which was her issue with Oliver last year - that if there actually is any link to the two despite what WM and MG say - it's going to be that. It just seems worthless to me at this point since she's already admitted that she does believe he can change, and I don't think the outcome of any link between what she's going through and what he did is going to be the two of them deciding that it's okay to keep things from each other in the future, so to me it's just kinda meh at this point. If anything like that even comes to pass.

Okay, so...Felicity gets a better understanding of why Oliver had a tendency to go off on his own and not lean on her as a partner. In the long run that doesn't really mean anything since it seems that Oliver has learned that doing that is not the way to handle things (this whole season has been about that), and he's trying to get her to not go that route with her problems, so even if she does gain some kind of ~understanding about his behavior, seems to me that's pretty worthless since the show is showing that's not the way you're supposed to handle things. So this really doesn't upset me on the surface, although they could always mess it up onscreen.