4leafclover

I don't think anyone can (or should) judge a couple's marriage by a few minutes a week on a reality show. Unless of course the show is something like Couple's Therapy or Marriage Bootcamp. ; )

Not being a fan of K+8, I haven't seen the "escape room" game before and I thought it looked like fun. I immediately looked it up and saw that they accommodate from 4-10 people per session, which looks like great family fun for a birthday or other celebration. I really don't see Will as taking any of Zoey's limelight. More than likely all of the instructors have invited Zoey and she was either too shy or not interested enough to partake. I thought it was nice of the teacher to invite Will to join them at the end. When my husband coached, he would occasionally invite siblings to join in at the end of the session, and it make them feel good to be included. Often it resulted in the sibling joining the team themselves, afterward. Houston is a very casual city and most of the residents dress in shorts and sandals from March thru November. Bill seems to be comfortable in his choices, and Jen doesn't seem to mind. He dresses formally when the occasion calls for it, such as conventions or when Jen is giving a speech. I get the impression that Bill doesn't really care what people think of his shorts.

Viewers see what they want to see. I believe both children love both parents. And the fact that they don't fall apart when one of them leaves shows me that they feel safe and confident that the parent who is leaving will return. And that is a huge feat in children who have been abandoned early in life.

Except Bill didn't pick the tattoo--he let Zoey choose it.

I must have quit listening by then.

I'm sick of how every episode involves a screaming brawl. Really, if they dislike one another so much, why do they continue to party together? And I'm tired of Jasmine and her parties. Why do they need names such as "mommy party" and "date night?" And to be a SAHM with an unemployed husband, she sure pulls out all the stops with her get-togethers. When she hosts them at home, she has a bartender and a caterer--just for "the girls." Ridiculous! Elena was originally a very nice person until last season when she turned all self-absorbed princess. Even though Christy is nicer than she was in the first season, she still grates on my nerves with her constant whining about Todd's weight--he's been overweight since they started dating. And she isn't so slim herself. I can't believe Brianna can be so blind to Matt's sleaziness, that Tonya was so huffy about "date night" (why not just stay home?) and that Jasmine feels the need to tell everyone what everyone else said about them! Ugh, I need to take a break from this show. I think I'll start right away.

So much cuteness in this episode! Zoey tapping Will and then shrugging her shoulders in a "what is he doing?" kind of way when they were making the pizza was adorable. Will missing his mom while she was out of town, Zoey telling her dad she loves him. Bill was spot on when he said fathers view things differently. My husband was a great, hands-on and very devoted dad to our boys, but he just didn't "see" if their clothes were wrinkled, or their hair wasn't combed or the house was a mess on the days he was in complete charge without me to point these things out to him. I laughed out loud when he called Zoey "A frog, a big violent frog." Kudos to Bill and Jen for teaching the children about their countries of origin. I loved hearing Zoey say she lived in India and Will saying he was from China. I've known parents who didn't want their adopted children to know anything about their beginnings, as if they ignored it, the children would too. I've also noticed Jen is not quite as OCD about the house being spotless, you could clearly see toys all over the den--not something she was apt to allow early on.

Happy Birthday XLDB2004!

Haley R., Scotty and Lauren Alaina were all on Season 10 together. The judges were Steven Tyler, JLo and Randy Jackson. It was JLo and Steven's first season on AI. Haley was 3rd runner-up, Lauren second behind Scotty. James Durbin and Casey Abrams were also on Season 10.

Well, you don't NEED to justify Bill and Jen's food decisions. And neither do they.

I don't think any reasonable adult would believe that Zoey actually consumed both of those milkshakes. It is more than likely she took a few sips out of each one and left the rest. That's what kids do.

Sorry--multiple posts!

Give it time...the next time Zoey or Will mumbles something incoherent the conjecturing will begin.

Wow, I feel like I just read an issue of the Enquirer.

Geese can be aggressive too--I've seen it! Many years ago, we had a family picnic at the local city park. My sister-in-law was trying to shoo the geese away from our food and one of them came up behind her and literally GOOSED her! We were all trying not to laugh because it startled the heck out of her, but how many times in your life do you see a goose goose someone?

I loved Zoey "reading" from her book--that was amazing!

I had no idea Lil Sweet was Justin G! Thanks for the info.

lol--now that's funny!

Personally, I think it was pretty crappy of Stephen to vote Erin off after he and Jacky appealed to her not to give them the pound disadvantage. Erin and Felicia were neck-in-neck as far as weight left to lose and ability in the challenges. Just like when he implied he would vote with the guys as a block, then turned on them. I am not a fan of his or Jacky's.

We live in an era where it seems as if every other TV show is deemed "reality." And the crux of these shows seems (to me) to be "victimization." Watching TV these days is a tear jerking experience--ie--"I weigh 600 pounds because my parents didn't love me," "I deserve to be the world's best singer because when I was a kid, no one liked me," "I should have gotten a rose because I've known you for 2 days and I slept with you." Being bombarded with people being spotlighted simply for the deprivation they have suffered has made many viewers wary of so-called "sob stories." The LC shows us real reasons for struggles without the unhappiness and entitlement we see in other shows. They show us the hardships of being different but also the success of moving onward in spite of those hardships. If viewers cannot (or will not) see that for what it is, or think there is something underhanded and deceptive about the LC, then that is on them. I choose to continue seeing a happy family consisting of two successful and well-educated parents and two children who have been offered a wonderful opportunity that, without those two adults, would never have been possible. And I do not understand the mind set that if you put your life in the public eye, you open the door to criticism and insults. I feel that is more true for those shows that rely on chicanery and heart-tugging sympathy stories than for those shows that portray someone trying their best to overcome the adversity they were handed in life.

Someone upthread said Will's declaration that "it's over" and stomping off must be a result of what he is exposed to at home. Well, let me tell you that one time my husband took our (then) 3 year old son to the grocery store to pick up a few things. Looking up at a woman nearby, son asked Dad, "Why does that lady over there have a mustache?" And guess what? Not once had either of us EVER said that at home! There is a famous saying that goes, "Out of the Mouths of Babes........"

I could listen to Zoey talk all day--how cute she is!

^^^That's what I was thinking, too! Heehee!

And can you imagine all of the complaints that "Bill and Jenn never do anything with their children?" lol

I agree--instead of Todd's weight, they should be concerned that their constant fighting, screaming and cursing with their so called "friends" on TV might disallow them from fostering a child. They don't exactly exude good judgment and a peaceful lifestyle in front of the cameras.