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No kidding and then we got another flashback with Vic to explain WHY she became a fire fighter. However, we have two more reasons why Vic's LIFE SUCKED continuing that all of the characters' parents just plained suck (I'll get into Pruitt later). I mean what the hell was the director trying to do? I mean save a grand piano? Come one this was a full community college, they would have had MAJOR insurance to over a full theatre and display arena. He basically committed suicide. As for finding out that Vic's parents once again are: "Workaholics" so much that as soon as the grand mother died they just "went back to work". The writers are acting like Vic's parents restaurant is a front for the mob or something. Even going as far as saying they were even open on major holidays when rarely ANYONE was around. No one on the writers table knows how a restaurant runs. Truth be told, if they were that worried the place wouldn't have survived if it required a couple from the age of 27-however old they are now to work EVERYTHING DAY, EVERY HOUR and then they basically show that Vic was raised by the grandmother who apparently never had a job herself on top of health issues, alzheimer's turning into dementia and then finally dying apparently in her 70s. Where Vic pretty much took care of her since high school and why she went to a local community college and now a 4 year because her parents especially her father WOULDN'T deal with it or apparently be any type of parent to Vic. I mean then finding out that Pruitt was the only one who came to her shows because her parents were "too busy running the damn restaurant". The show better not build this all up and then we never seen them. They haven't shy away from showing how everyone else's parents completely sucked on this show in either current or regular flashbacks. I mean even Ryan's father was horrible and I was waiting for him to show up briefly to visit his son's grave. Now they are throwing out that Andy's life apparently has something that "couldn't come out" and apparently Pruitt did some stuff as he put it up until his "death "Tell her everything I did, I did for her." Why? Was Andy's mother and family in the cartel or something? Yeah, that was way needed, not more men making out in a damn bar. Hell, I wish the addict would have shot Emmitt too, nothing life threatening but at least where he would have gone: "I just wanted to be an ART HISTORY MAJOR and TEACHER, FU YOU DAD!" No kidding and now we are learning that apparently he wanted to keep Andy away from his former wife's family. Even his old buddies knowing that some dark stuff was going on. So, I take it next season Andy is going to see all of this and we will have Pruitt return again in flashbacks on what happened. WHY the hell kill him off then? They could have kept the drama and not given him cancer. He has been on almost EVERY episode this season even in death.

That would make sense. The kids age was always matched up with the actors by a year and Sara Gilbert is a year older than me. I was born in 1978 and if it is right that Roseanne and Dan were done around 71, 72 and got married right out of school and preggers with Becky. Yeah, they probably spend between $14K-20K on the house, especially for a two story with full basement and three bedrooms. So, even with refinancing, they should have had the house paid off in 2000 to 2003 long before the 2008 crash.

Yep and also me making the point about how "small" Stars Hollow was suppose to be. Of course the way Taylor would spend money like crazy on events in the town, I'm surprised it never went bankrupt.

I still find it comical that Jess then went all the way back in season 4 to get his car back when the damn thing was crap. Plus, he lived fine without it for almost a year and then he WANTS it back. Why didn't he just take the stupid thing with him. If he could afford bus fair, why not just drive there to Venice?

Even more, home visits were most common those days and AS-P hammered it into our heads this town was so small the church/cetigog were the same place. Really, no one walked over to Luke's Dinner and went: "Jess hasn't been in school... for months!" If he tried that now, oh Luke be getting calls the next day after he missed 2 days.

That's even when it's a sitcom you just roll your eyes or go: "oh come on, he had to go through at least 1st grade." I can take kids who are use to people or parents just throwing money at them or buying them whatever they want no problem. HOWEVER... when they start acting like the don't know basic math or ways to do things and end up looking like a 3 year old doing something for the first time. That's when it just takes me out big time no matter if it looks funny or anything. You were waiting for Oliver to just smack Cooper and go: "What did you live in a box until you were 14?" Same with the "house wives" that are just throwing money at things or just expecting everyone to DO WHAT THEY SAY. Didn't they at some point you know... grow up like regular people before marrying rich husbands who just wanted them for sex and throw money to leave them alone. Everyone acts like they grew up in a trailer down by the river.

At this point you really do wonder especially if Dan was $4K behind and even when the show returned as Roseanne two years ago. You really want to know what was going on with Dan and Roseanne. I mean even in the time line, All 3 Kids were gone for a good portion of years and the Lunchbox didn't go out until 2008 and also what lead to Jackie becoming a life coach later on. It was the reveal that Bev still had ownership that really didn't make sense. She should have cashed out and ran.

I'm already seeing those signs now. I could see them just going to the bitter end and then things just "end" for the show.

IF the Lunchbox does that. We have two local dinners here who did that and are only opened from breakfast to lunch. They went with straight carry out and have been doing fine. COVID-19 pandemic is TOO BIG to be completely ignored by entertainment world going forward. In fact some shows that are done digitally are already acknowledging it. The problem is, considering how this episode left off. If they return late September. COVID-19 would work in the shows favor if the bank postponed foreclosure as a result and the Lunchbox took MAJOR advantage of curbside and even Mark making a pick up app to work with UberEats/Doordash. That would in all favors to keep the Conners going. Otherwise the way it is everyone would be living in Jackie's apartment at the moment living straight with Darlene and Ben.

I do agree, the gay joke between the two needs to STOP. Even Katie at this point needs to move on from that.

Right and then fit right into the Schooled. Have Adam go to NYU, Ericia decides to go into medical school like the real "Eric" did and Barry heads off to Michigan to finish school.

Yeah this is a grand example of a show that has ran it's course. Even the old videos of the real family are few and far between. Meaning it might be a plot point like the "real" Adam's school play, Barry's constant dating life and even their friends' backgrounds. However, half of it seems mostly made up and most of the enjoyable background characters have all gone to Schooled. It's time to just wrap up the series and call it a good run.

Sadly, people in Hollywood who didn't grow up in those areas. Think that people are just naturally idiots from the country and rural areas. They over exaggerate kids these days intelligence. As a teacher, trust me there are at times you just look at the kids going: "What is wrong with you?" However, no one is acting like "me make a boom boom!" Thinking they know more than adults or feeling they can just "get by in life". Yes, that's very common. As for tornados, yeah no kidding and also at times in small towns, sirens might not go off because tornado touch downs can happen suddenly without ANY warning. If these writers just Google or watch on Youtube "About tornadoes" shows be much more realistic. As for baby stories, I'm fine when they make sense in the characters, if anyone outside of the main two were pregnant, I know the show would have been doomed. Those characters are far removed from having kids at not only that point in their lives, but wouldn't make ANY stories with them. Least with Mike and Rio it makes sense and even with their parents, this will be interesting.

These days, they call you in. Of course, Jess's school and even the Walmart he worked for were a bunch of morons not noticing that Jess not only wasn't doing anything at school. However, the fact that Luke didn't know about the school he had been skipping class.

I remember that and you can see the actors with: "We love you Bill, but please stop hurting us!" You just hear the constant giggles.

This was Bev at her worst and I really felt bad for Barry. Even though they showed he not only becomes a doctor and successful and even proved it on Schooled. I felt like he just gets the bum deal half the time. It stopped being funny. I know the show is trying to stay funny, but doesn't Murray at any point just go: "You know, maybe I should worry about people seeing me like this at times."

It's when Ruby has done that you have to question Dre's perspective on things, even when his sister brought it up too. Then again, I know what it is like for an in-law to do something similar. Not buy something for them, but buying FROM them and then find out there is a catch or hidden problems or agenda. Insert other media

You have to love the Seattle Fire Department's hiring process. Promote someone who makes big mistakes in the field when they should know better Person gets a family of five killed because they want to look good Person who has a HUGE career of success and training, but constantly doesn't want to be promoted and SHOULD be promoted, they just ignore People who show personal vendettas against stations, nah just let them keep doing it

This episode was done very well. Even bringing up very good point with a few glaring things with the character. The ending was sweet.

Like how Jess's did with him?

Very true, the Lunchbox be in HORRIBLE shape. Unless they worked with curbside pick up, though I could see Jackie though enjoying the fact that she would have to social distance from Bev and a lot of banks pushed back foreclosures because of COVID-19. I can see that being Dan's tempary bandaid of not losing the house when the show starts again.

Yeah that's the thing. I feel now with Roseanne gone, Dan has put himself in a situation where he either expected "someone else" to fix an occuring problem. I could even see the opposite, with him being told: "Hey I have this great quick money payout" and. yet Dan can't decide on it himself because Roseanne isn't telling him to make a stupid move. Even though he basically did that with Jackie getting her way to get the Lunchbox back from Darelene. Where Dan knew he was most likely getting WAY behind on the mortgage and should have said: "You know what?" "No, I NEED THE MONEY, I'm two months behind on house payments." "Fuck you Jackie, I need the money more!"

Season 1 was fine then in season 2 it just jumped off the deep end. I get ratings kept it on for the first 4 years, but the show took such a deep dive in season 5 and with constant rights issues. How it made it to season 6 made no sense or how the two main characters weren't sleeping on the streets. Kind of like here in the Connors at this point, how are all the characters not dead or Jackie hasn't been locked up somewhere. She has lost it.

Yes, I'm fine with this story because it's natural for the characters and series. I HATE it when they just throw in a new kid because: the other kids are TOO old, character left the series, someone was friends with someone on the series and of course OUT OF IDEAS. It's like on Cheers with Fraiser and Lilith, they kept that pretty consistent even up to when they hired the nanny and one of the writers was a new father himself. So, he reflected it on the characters. Same on Full House when Jesse and Becky had the twins and even wrote it to make sense even to the point of the rest of the cast. Unlike say: Black-ish, Boy Meets World, Dharma & Greg, Last Man Standing, The Brady Bunch that threw a kid in there new board or relative just because they ran out of ideas for the rest of the characters. I site Dharma & Greg the most because they had Dharma's parents have a kid instead of them. Something the show originally said: "We thought it be a switch of things and it was just really, really hard to write instead of having the main characters who were married a while to have a kid. We didn't think it through."

I know, this episode was a pleasant surprise and Junior actually had a story that made sense and that was a great bait and switch with Sky's twin sister and meeting the girl at the dock. Even Dre's revelation how he always chose Ruby over Earl, which makes sense. Earl after getting screwed in the 70s and doing underhand dealings to get money and barely pay the bills really put himself at odds with his kids. Something the last few years have been trying to do was not only getting Dre and Earl's relationship on a great note, but also the fact that Ruby and him both realized they went over board over the years and still loved each other.