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Do you really want to know?

Worth noting the GoT 1st season strove VERY close to the books, and absolutely got the reading fans on side early. Season 1 was about as close an adaptation of a book as I've ever seen. Whilst it drifted away, and lost a fair few book readers; it had already become a cultural phenomenon by that point, and didn't really need them any more. Additionally, a lot of book readers had already accepted that the show was going to provide the only ending they were ever going to get - so a lot continued to watch, even as they got more critical of it.

Complaining or making an observation? Followed up with pointing out that UK =/= USA? Personally, I don't particularly expect my fictional stories with unrealistic plot devices to be true to the real world. I accept that dramatic license is a thing. But I'm happy to discuss it as a point of discussion. Not sure why to whatabout to another presumably fictional show that might side-step or fast track real world law for the sake of dramatic tension. I don't know the show you're talking about though, so can't comment beyond UK =/= Spain.

Oops - only vaguely remember reading this thread 2 years ago, completely forgot I'd contributed. Good to know I still had the same thoughts

Wow, the sympathy/empathy, the sheer compassion for someone suffering with their mental health! Please note, people who are genuinely suicidal are not thinking with a healthy brain. Condemning them for being suicidal is... well, it says a lot more about the person doing the condemnation than the suicidal person. When someone has reached the point that suicide is the best option*, it's because they think that the best thing to do for the world in general, and especially those around them, is to remove themselves from the world. They're thinking that everyone involved is going to be better off as a result of their suicide. Yeah, they may feel a bit sorry for whoever has to clean up the mess, but that's not exactly their over-riding concern. * Talking explicitly about suicide secondary to mental illness, not euthanasia or towering inferno scenarios.

Thank you Thank you too. IIRC only Ted and Crim actually know, whilst Roy and Beard kinda-know

Right, finished reading this thread now, and... my, it's rather contradictory. "Too much Nate" "Too much KJPR" "Why didn't they show Nate doing XYZ?" (necessitating more screen time for his character) "Why didn't they show KJ doing ABC?" (necessitating more screen time for her arc) It's almost like the screenwriters couldn't win - for the story they wanted to tell. Better screen writers would help, but if you want to see those things, then you need to spend time on them. Now, my own opinions - which may be coloured by my arriving late to the show, and binging it basically an episode a day for the last few weeks: I disliked the KJPR storyline, but it felt organic and earned. No, I don't have difficulty in believing than an undereducated model doesn't know what a CFO is without taking a minute. No, I don't find it unbelievable that being dumped into a world she's unfamiliar with might push her into her shell and give her some doubts - but it was just all disconnected from the rest of the show. I'd have been happier if that had all been happening off-screen; with the occasional appearances of Juno turning to Rebecca (and Sassy, and Ted, and Roy, and Jamie) to socialise, or to help her out, or be helped in their turn. Which, of course, wouldn't be enough screen-time to keep Juno involved in the show. As for Nate - IMO, he came to the realisations about Rupert himself. Yes, he'd worked for Rupert before, but there's a good chance he'd never been in the same room as him; or if he had, he'd have been as relevant to Rupert as a vase of flowers - probably less relevant. IMO, he saw what Rupert was trying to turn him into, and decided that he didn't want to be that, didn't want to be toxic, did want a simpler life where it's not kill-or-be-killed. Essentially, that he does want the Richmond environment, AND that he's never going to get it at West Ham. My interpretation of him leaving WH, going back to his parents' house in the dark of the night etc was that he had had a mini mental health crisis. It seemed to me that he spent several weeks, possibly even months there, under the radar, essentially not leaving his room. He's now taking first steps in repairing broken relationships - with his father, with Will. These things take time, and for me, his redemption starts now. The season up to now has been about him working out why he's still unhappy, who he's turning into; and realising that he's living a lie in trying to be top dog in a dog-eat-dog environment. I gather we're getting another season, I imagine we'll see him making full amends, or at least, moving past the obstacles he's place in his own way. Finding his niche, wherever that may be, and learning to be happy with what he has. I suspect he'd make a fantastic analyst and tactician for some team somewhere, just keep him away from people-management.

I think this is the most "American" thing I've ever seen on the internet - whether it's satire or genuine, I take my hat off to you!

This seems to be missing the 2 most commonly omitted words on the internet... "in America" See comments a couple of episodes ago about not having to fake subservience/flirtation due to not having to work for tips.

Nah, the correct answer is Dave Gilmour. Hendrix and Prince are acceptable answers (though I'm not sure Prince counts as the best best classic rock guitarist of all time)

Yes, thank you. I had been wondering where all this "why does she hate him?" "Is she being racist towards him?" etc was coming from; and yes, that's probably (a large part of) the answer. In Europe, we pay a (more or less) living wage, and have no real tipping culture. We're not bribing faux-servitude and phrases like "have a nice day" would be dripping in contempt, and well accepted as meaning "fuck off and die". Jade simply didn't give a damn about Nate, and had no reason to pretend that she did. All whilst probably hating her job, and couldn't wait for her shift to end so that she could get on with her actual life. For the people disliking Jade (or thinking that she hates Nate) - how would you like her to react to Nate? She's faced with an unimpressive man, she isn't impressed, and she doesn't break the restaurant's code of "only the manager can allow use of the window table". He then makes a claim to being fame-adjacent, and she still isn't impressed. He then acts like an arse, and... she isn't impressed. Nate shows a little humility and humanity - gets dumped, and... she reacts humanely.

Of course, but... A] there ARE times before 9.00 - when some people work better - not you, obviously, but then, not everyone is like you. B] They don't work a 9-5 job, so using 9 and 5 as you're points is... irrelevant. C] We've also had complaints on this episode thread that they're training in Richmond Park whilst being famous, and not being hassled - maybe there are fewer people around at 4.00 than there are at 8 pm? D] As mentioned above, recovery times are a thing, especially is doing more of a S&C workout, rather than training (though that should be with S&C, not a coach) E] Roy is old school, he also like annoying Jamie, and is testing his dedication F] Also entirely possible that at the back of his mind, Roy thinks that Jamie is having a bit too much nightlife for a professional athlete; so getting him up at 4.00 means he's less likely to be getting to bed at 2.00am drunk, and with a dodgy kebab. The problem seems to be that YOU wouldn't want to train at 4.00am, not that ROY wouldn't want to train at 4.00am

I don't think anyone with an "I'm god" switch really needs a plan.

Oh, there's absolutely grounds for firing - but there's also a process. UK doesn't have "at will" employment (hence the comment about employment law). Being set in the UK, UK law would apply, even to American companies; so due process would have to be followed - or require Verity to have already changed UK law and deprived herself of another gaslight option.

Of course. Though I'd got the impression that Verity was reacting in the moment with her changes, screwing with Maria. She could, of course, change things so that employment law didn't apply, but from what we saw, she'd want to do that with another change. If she'd just wanted Maria fired, or not in that job, she'd have just done that without jumping through the hoops to gaslight her.