Irritable

It was even mentioned in this episode - Julie said she was styled by Juliet for the party. And I will give this to Juliet - the dress she chose for Julie fit her beautifully, and was a very elegant design. The sparkly circus tent she chose for herself, however, not so much.

THANK YOU for this most brilliant and perfect description. I've never been able to come up with the right term for people who always look like they just rushed out of the house only halfway ready t face the world, like she always does. Unmade-bed is exactly it!

When Marissa talked about the hot dog shop, I instantly thought only Americans would eat there. It's been really eye-opening to me to see how much Americans are disliked by the Brits. I was so naïve about our relationship with them! When Juliet was talking to Caroline 2, and Caroline 1 was so disgusted by her ass kissing, yet amused because she was kissing the wrong ass to get a leg up in society, I wanted to shove an orange slice in her mouth. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's possible that they started out making nice conversation because they were seated next to each other, and then Juliet liked Caroline 2, and since she is in the market for new friends, said she would love it if they got to know each other better only for that reason. Not every move that these women make are necessarily to scrape their way to the top of London's Finest, Caroline. Sometimes women are friends even though there's nothing in it for them except the friendship.

Caroline 1 was insufferable tonight. I don't really care if she thought Julie shouldn't have been upset by her comment, she could have just said, "I'm sorry, I was just kidding and didn't mean to hurt your feelings." How hard would that have been? When someone is sobbing in front of you because of something you said, telling them they shouldn't be upset by it doesn't help the situation. She can still be flummoxed by Julie's reaction and apologize anyway, so that she might stop crying. And maybe it had been building up after that horrible lunch where Caroline called her stupid twice, and basically told Julie she wanted to leave because she had wasted enough time "helping" her when she had her own business problems to deal with.

I enjoyed it enough to watch again. I loved the movie, and remember being disappointed that it ended before I could see more of the triplets living together on their own. I enjoy the futuristic elements. like the super trains that can change cars while moving. I do wish they hadn't shortened Daschel's name to Dash, because I think Daschel is one of the best names ever. I couldn't help making the comparison, either. The actress is fine, but It feels like someone at the top said this show needed an Abby Mills character, because everyone loves Abby Mills. I suppose I shouldn't complain, since at least she wasn't modeled after an awful character, but some more originality here would have been nice.

Yes, that's a big discrepancy, I noticed it, too. If her mom was the meanest woman in the world who threw her poor, teenaged, struggling, single-mom-of-a-baby daughter out onto the streets to fend for herself while she was working and going to school full time, and charged her $100 a pop to babysit her own granddaughter (how could Kim possibly afford that? Working full time and going to school full time means Brielle would have needed outside care constantly, like 80 hours a week!!!), then why in the world would Kim follow her parents down to Georgia? She could have stayed in Connecticut and found MUCH less expensive child care. How did she make ends meet, uprooting the way she did and starting over in a new state when she was barely making it back home? Her dad was the one with the job, not Kim, so....oh, wait, I know what happened: she's lying again. It would be one thing if her mom was the only family member she "had to" sever ties with, but when you don't speak at all to your brother (she has a brother???), both of your parents, and your husband's family, too? The problem isn't everyone else, it's the common denominator, Kim. I thought Kim was nicer to the people living in her old house than she was to her so-called old friends. It made me sad to see how excited that family was to be on TV. It's just Kim Zolciak, y'all, not Ed McMahon bringing you a sweepstakes check. She's not going to give you a damn thing except maybe leave a few strands of synthetic hair on your floor. How can Kim be proud of the fact that she used to throw tomatoes at people driving, hoping to peg one in the face through an open window? She does understand WHY that's illegal, right? I wish that was a crime with no statute of limitations, so that the people she hit could finally nail her for it. Once a pig, always a pig. I wish I'd been keeping count of how many times she referred to herself and the one other woman as "the cute ones" in school. Flashing back to the old photos did not actually work as proof that Kim was anywhere near as cute as she seems to think. One of the old close-ups I would almost swear on my life she had her nose photoshopped to look more like it does now. I hope her old friends all went somewhere else together after lunch, to talk shit about her over a few drinks. None of the "meanwhile...back at home" footage was cute or funny. These people aren't interesting, so much as they are like a side show in the circus and Kim is the head freak.

Nick lost me when he stole the morphine like a dick, and then the writers lost me when they had him put the ill-fitting Bing Crosby clothes back on. What reason in the world could there possibly be for Nick to not wear his own clothes at this point? Are they TRYING to make me feel crazy? Is it meant to be a distraction from how terrible and plot-holey this show is? I have nothing good to say about any of these episodes, and it pisses me off so badly because I was super excited about the premise. There were a million better ways to tell the beginning of this story. It feels like they just stuck chimpanzees in a room full of typewriters and said, "Whatever they come up with, that's what we use." Yes, you are correct that we had zero zombies on this episode. Day 9, Madison walking around far outside the protective fence she cut open, and no walkers. Not any on the periphery. None anywhere. Good call, show.

Somehow I missed this on the first run and just saw it tonight. Oh, I was so very unprepared to find out Michelle, who was so full of life, had cancer, then see how she had deteriorated, then find out she died. Man, these stories are all sad, but this one was so extra sad. This disgusting guy reminded me so much of Scott Peterson, right down to all the golf playing. What a piece of garbage he is, and his wife is apparently book smart with no common sense whatsoever. The odds of 2 American psychopaths renting and committing murders in the same house in Panama are a lot better than I ever would have guessed. Here's something I would like to know: Whose purse, medication and passport did the searchers find in the swamp while they were searching for poor Yvonne (and her dog - good lord, even a dog got murdered, I cannot take this)? It was edited almost like everyone went eh, and tossed the stuff back down because it didn't belong to Yvonne, but I hope in actuality it was all gathered up and taken as evidence to look into, because surely it had to be related to another terrible crime.

So much happened on this episode that I almost forgot about Amy showing Rocky how to do a "harmonica" fold with the bedspread. I thought maybe that was a special kind of yacht way of folding, but eventually I figured out that she meant accordion fold. I also thought, when Slovin asked Kate what the name of the bar was, as she was standing behind the yacht bar, that they must call it different names depending on the theme of the charter. Like, this week the bar on the boat is called Swimmies, or whatever. I felt pretty dumb when they showed the sign and it was for the bar on land.

Yeah, Don seemed to be shown shirtless a lot before he went all big baby and quit. I just don't see the point of those bathing suits that expose the whole butt. Especially a one-piece. I don't really care about butts that much, though, so it's perplexing to me when people think they are something that should be showcased in public. Can't everyone tell if you have a nice rear end even if the bathing suit covers the cheeks? Is exposing the flesh that necessary? I wonder if Rocky's distaste for Emile on the date had anything to do with his "I don't date, I mate! Wine dine and 69!" comments. Just because she's a free spirit or whatever doesn't mean she wouldn't find that kind of gross. Or a lot gross. I didn't even understand what he meant by he'd never been on a date because dates are for old people. So, he just has one night stands exclusively because that's all people his age do? Sounds like a fantastic way to pick up STDs.

I agree with FozzyBear on this: I've been in that position, where I befriended someone who seemed to really need a friend, and had a lot of personal problems that I wanted to help lessen in whatever ways I could. But over time, I realized this person was a soul-sucking vampire who had a history of glomming on to people, draining the life out of them, and then glomming on to another victim. ad nauseum. I believe now that this person has Borderline Personality Disorder, and if I had known it ahead of time I would have avoided her like the plague that she is. But after helping her, and helping her, and helping her, and having her turn around regularly to treat me like garbage, only to act like I should just forget all that because she needed something from me again, I finally got wise. By the time I was ready to sever ties with her, also in a restaurant, coincidentally, I was as stoic and terse as Marissa, because I was braced for a huge dramatic display, or for her to try to manipulate me by dropping another pity-me bomb in my lap. I was DONE, and turned myself to steel so that no matter what she said or did, I could walk out of there free of this person whose "friendship" had made me miserable. Until I see Marissa treat her other friends the same way she treated Juliet when they were solidifying the end of their friendship, I'm going to believe that Juliet gave her reasons to seem so cold.

I agree that the reenactment and editing of that story was a mess. If they wanted to keep us in suspense, then just tell us that an upset man came into the police station to report that he believed someone had been killed at his friends house, and leave out the part about the suicide / confession note until after the crime scene has been laid out for us. Knowing exactly what the police had been told prior to entering the house made instantly obvious the what, how and why of what had taken place. I also agree about Joe Kenda's capacity for empathy and compassion. He even has it for the killers sometimes, which is pretty amazing, considering the things he's seen. I'll never forget in the heart wrenching episode "A Beautiful Shade of Death", that he was obviously so sad about the family that had senselessly died, but also sad for the person responsible. In that particular case I had zero empathy for that person, and was shocked that Joe could find it in himself to feel bad for someone whose bad decision ended the lives of 4 people. Might have been 5 people - I remember it was a mother and the rest were her children. Anyway, most people would never give their killer (unintentional or not) a moment's kind thought, but it really stood out to me that Kenda still managed to do it. I worded that carefully in case someone here hasn't seen that episode yet - it was one of the top 3 most haunting episodes for me.

It's so nice to come here and read reasonable people's opinions about this harrowing episode. I follow Dateline on Facebook, broke my NEVER READ THE COMMENTS rule for some reason, and was completely shocked to see people - and I think the ones I saw were all women - saying that even though the fiancée and mother didn't do it, they still found it weird/fishy/suspicious that they weren't hysterical when they called 911, or during questioning. There was also some criticism that she went around the house looking to find how the killer got in, because according to these people, she should have been sitting by her fiancée's body instead. The phrase "I can't even with this!" kept running through my mind. That's the takeaway from all this for some people? That the victims should still be under a cloud of suspicion? Makes me feel crazy. I don't personally believe that if she had broken up with the guy face to face or over the phone instead of texting that things would necessarily be different now. They had a few Friday night booty calls, and had never even spoken on the phone besides texting. She had no reason to think his perception of their "relationship" was anything more serious than hers, and from her perspective, texting felt appropriate. He was clearly already obsessing over her before that even happened, because he knew enough information about her ex-boyfriend to steal items from him in order to frame him later. I can't think of any guy I've ever dated who wanted to know any details about my previous boyfriends. They might know their first name, at the most, but to know his full name, where to find him, burglarize his car, create a fake ID in his name, etc., shows that this freak was already taking notes in anticipation of their eventual breakup. I agree that there is no way him getting a job right next to her fiancée was a coincidence, either. He's insane in the most dangerous of ways - the kind that allows him to function and appear as a completely normal person who can move about easily among the masses, doing weird things but not creating any real red flags, when really he is capable of the purest evil for the most delusional of reasons. In his messed up head he truly believed that putting in all this hard work - getting rid of her fiancée AND ex-boyfriend (I guess that was for good measure, eliminating the possibility that she could fall back into her ex's arms due to him being a convicted murderer) that she would have no choice but to return to him. The only logical outcome of this, to him, was that they would reconcile. So, yeah, definitely insane, but thankfully not the kind of insanity that keeps you out of prison. If it wasn't all so gross, it would almost be funny that in an effort to give himself a little extra padding, he went ahead and tossed in a jacket from the house of the local sex offender as "evidence". Why not throw in a bloody knife stolen from the local butcher, too? A few hair samples from a well known biker gang? A horse's head to imply it was a mob hit? I agree that the victim's mother's pain was sadly overlooked on the program. That she had the terrible luck of being in the house when he was murdered makes it even that much worse.

I enjoyed so much of this episode. Very greatly relieved that Rocky didn't actually flash everyone during the diving competition as the previews would have had us believe. She was a ringer, sure, but it was still a pretty fun segment, I thought. Felt bad for Amy, I wouldn't have been any more happy to leap from that high, either. One wrong move and it's the belly or face flop that was heard around the world. I loved Kate's Greek God/Monster rundown, too! Very funny. She's no dummy, I appreciate her wit. Wen Amy was showing Rocky the proper ways to prepare a stateroom, and Rocky just zoned out and acted like she needed time to absorb the fact that she was just sentenced to life in prison was pretty annoying for me. I guess she really, truly thought she could come aboard and just be "cute" and "wild" for the cameras, and that would be enough. Interestingly, the one and only time I thought oh, Rocky is really pretty, was when she had her hair pulled back and was just standing still with her mouth closed. Most of the time it's like she opens up her whole face to talk and laugh, like a muppet head. She admits that she is "a lot", but I would appreciate her moment of self-awareness more if she didn't seem to think she's a lot of only great stuff. I don't really blame her for being turned off by how drunk Emile got at dinner. I would have wanted to go ahead and part company ASAP, too, but I'm not sure I would have taken it to the extreme of laying on the deck floor until he went away. I would have been okay with Eddie just doing a talking head to inform us that there are some problems in his relationship. Having his conversation with Amy aired in all its painful glory was not enjoyable for me, and felt way too invasive. I'm not too worried about Eddie. If they do break up, he's certainly got a long enough line of women waiting to take her place, but going through this part of things is so hard and I hate that he had to see it unfold again on the show. When whoever it was said Testicles was not a greek name, Kate and I both said, "It's pronounced TEST-IH-CLEESE!". Loved it! The mermaid reveal was AMAZING, and had I been on that charter it would have been one of the best parts of the trip for me. The light from the boat showed her perfectly, and the timing, thanks to Kate, was perfect.

I think the guru part wasn't matchmaking, it was the wisdom Kim and Kroy imparted on all of us, that as long as one person in the relationship does everything the other person wants, then the other person will perform oral sex on them regularly. That is the recipe for a happy marriage, and as long as you live by that one rule, everything else will just work itself out. Sounds pretty foolproof to me, and I guess marriage counselors are going to start going out of business all over the country now that the real answer has just been put out there for free.

Doesn't a lack of fruit in one's diet cause scurvy? That would explain a lot of things about Caroline 1.

I think Juliet is horrible, and I wouldn't want to spend a minute in her miserable company. I was very disappointed when I saw she would be back this year. So far, I haven't seen Marissa do anything that qualifies in my eyes as being a mean, nasty witch. These women are all stuck up on some level, but Marissa at least likes to do things for people, and Juliet likes to have things done for her. I much prefer people who work hard to create situations for other people to enjoy, no matter what their motivations for doing so may be. And I think it was incredibly upfront and honest of her to tell Juliet that their friendship just wasn't doing it for her anymore. Friendships are supposed to be a two-way street, and if one person feels the relationship has become imbalanced in a way that makes it not worth maintaining, then to just say so straight out is probably the most fair way to address it. Juliet definitely seems exhausting and needy, and after a while I think it's normal to start to wonder if pandering to her needs is really worth the time, effort and patience it takes. Time is valuable, and shouldn't be spent with people who drain us, especially if our only tie to those people is a tenuous friendship. If Juliet has nowhere else to take her children to enjoy a Christmas event besides the box Marissa booked at Albert Hall, then she really needs to cast a wider net for friends. It's not Marissa's job to entertain Juliet's children.

I have to admit, I did love the part of the confrontation between Brooks and Meghan, when Meghan turned to Vicki and said, "You said I was a terrible person." And Vicki, nodded, and said, "You are.", like, duh. It was so beautifully calm and straight-faced that I think it was the first time ever that I sincerely enjoyed Vicki.

I'm not sure class has any place in that house. If Tracy had true class, Kim would probably fire her. She doesn't want to be around that stuff!

For some reason, Marissa has never bothered me. Last season I loved how fresh and well put together she always looked, and I am enjoying that about her again this season. Although, I will say that her outfit at the Christmas singalong was odd. Pants with a giant bow at the front don't look good on anyone. She doesn't even come across as smug to me, but maybe that's because I would probably get the same look on my face if I had to deal with Juliet. Marissa is an American, Thanksgiving is important to her, too. She has a yearly dinner that is beautifully done in her lovely restaurant because it accommodates a large group. Juliet whined that it's also her birthday, so Marissa decided to do something special for her as an aside, to acknowledge Juliet's day. Juliet asks a non-American to please have a Thanksgiving dinner in her home, even though Caroline said she doesn't know what Thanksgiving even is. Marissa finds out, and gets mad. I don't blame her one bit, and when she said Juliet "shopped around" for the best Thanksgiving, I think she was spot on. Juliet is an entitled whiny baby, and I couldn't stand her last year, but this year she is already insufferable. I don't understand why anyone would want to work hard to become a part of London's society. Considering how snobby they are, and how they never stop commenting on the obnoxious, ill-mannered, try-hard Americans, what is the benefit to striving to be part of their group? Caroline and Annabelle very clearly will never consider Americans to be as good as they are, or even just plain good enough, even if they are sometimes amused by them. It doesn't make sense to me why it's anyone's goal to claw their way in to a group of people who will always make fun of you and consider you less than. Surely locals who are not aristocrats are just as much, if not more fun to hang out with. The new Caroline (I can't remember their last names, so for me she is Caroline 2) is very entertaining to me, so far. Her honking laugh makes me giggle every time. The food she served looked absolutely delicious and like a meal I would love to try, and I wouldn't have minded the 10 minute warning during dessert to get the hell out. I almost wish more hosts would do that. The bowl full of Cheetos to make the Americans feel more at home was kind of funny, but was it also meant to be a little insulting? I honestly couldn't tell. I adored seeing the women gathered at the party in all their gorgeous red finery. What a breathtaking sight! I didn't think I'd like the dress Caroline 1 chose when it was on the hanger, but on her it was stunning. Julie has kind of a sporty build that didn't completely suit the designer gown she wore, but I thought it was lovely, and kind of Annabelle to loan it. Her hair WAS dreadful, but even as bad as it looked, it's still a big improvement over her hair last year. She can't help being cursed with such thin locks, but the harsh bleaching can't help, and it looks so extreme with her pale skin and light eyes. A softer shade of blonde would probably do wonders for her. I always got the feeling Caroline 1's business was just a vanity project for her. It's like women I know who are married to surgeons and lawyers, and they open up a cute little boutique so they can say they are business owners, but really it's an excuse to buy pretty things, socialize and become known and a visible part of the community while barely breaking even. They don't do it to make money, if they turn profit that's great, but not really the ultimate goal. Obviously, no one wants their business to fail, but these women, and Caroline 1, aren't relying on their stores to sustain their families, so it's a whole different ball of wax than it is for the rest of us. I feel terrible for the employees who worked their asses off for her last Christmas only to end up unemployed. Losing that income probably affected them greatly.

This episode was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I'm appalled and disgusted that this entire season has revolved around the women gossiping over the validity of Brooks' cancer. It is not the business of any of them, at all, for any reason. Brooks being sick or not sick does not actually affect their lives other than if they choose to be kind and emotionally supportive, and even then, you don't really lose anything by being kind and supportive - if he is lying, then there is something very wrong with his mind, and therefore he is still sick, just in a different way. He can choose what doctors and treatments he wants for himself, it's no one else's place to determine whether those choices are right or wrong. Not that it matters, because I don't believe any of them actually care whether or not he receives helpful treatment, or is cured, they just want to "crack the mystery" that is only a mystery because they nitpick and gossip about what things he said seemed hinky to them. YOU ARE NOT DETECTIVES, calm the fuck down. Meghan really is the ultimate mean girl. Her crazed, desperate, unstoppable need to investigate...oh, I'm sorry, "research" Brooks' past and get to the bottom of his story is actually one of the most vile things I've seen someone do on the RH franchise. What is her motivation, indeed. I thought Brooks handled that confrontation extremely well, and if he'd lost control and punched Meghan in her smug, bitchy face, I wouldn't have even been mad at him. Vicki was doing really well, and almost made it through the entire episode without making this all about her, but she just HAD to squeeze in, "I lost MY mom and MY boyfriend has stage III cancer, why can't you just leave us alone?" I can't believe Tamra the Pot tried to call her Mom the Kettle a hoochie. That outfit was perfectly nice, and looked good on her mom, it was nowhere near as hoochie looking as most of what Tamra wears. Tamra was way too excited and gleeful when she was looking for Brooks at the party to take him down. She looks demented when she gets that way. Probably because she IS demented. Shannon's party scene was pretty, and it was nice to see her back yard. She seemed like kind of a terrible host, though - very distracted, never really giving her full attention to whoever she was talking to, and answering questions in what came across to me in sort of a terse tone. "There's a dragon in your pool, Shannon!" "I know. I know that." I guess only Vacation Shannon is Fun Shannon.

I didn't watch ABDC this season specifically because of Frankie being a judge. It made me sad, because I like that show...maybe someday I can watch it and just FF past him, but just seeing his stupid face I was like, "Oh hell no, I'm out", and changed the channel.

The first time all season that I liked Austin was when he barely tolerated a hug from the whirling Tazmanian Glitter Devil, and then pointed to Vanessa with a look of nausea on his face, like PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ME ON THIS EXCURSION. I would rather spend 10 days in a dirt hole than spend 5 minutes with fucking Frankie. I feel so much better coming here and reading the hilarious commentary about him. The way he was gyrating and flailing about up in the rafters while his sister performed made me wonder if he understands that he's not the star of her concert. I get kind of freaked out when Steve does things like race away from a closed door telling himself over and over that people are talking inside and that he should not go in there. I worry about his sanity, sometimes. The Mommy stuff I can write off as him being a socially awkward boy whose mom was his best friend and champion, but that kind of behavior gives me an "oh shit" feeling in the pit of my stomach, like maybe I don't want to see what happens next.

So Tracey just feeds Kim a constant line of bullshit all day, every day, and then goes home to Brooklyn to tell her all the crazy nonsense she actually got Kim the idiot to believe? Is that the takeaway here? If so, I like it. Kroy goes with Kim to the nail salon? Why in the world does he do that? Honestly, I don't know why Kim doesn't have a manicurist come to her house for mani-pedis. It would still be one of her cheapest vanity expenses, even if it was $100 a week. I don't do Twitter, but it would almost be worth it to follow Kim just to see if she frantically comes out with some excuse why it's someone else's fault her ass looked so big in those sweat pants. That's definitely not the same ass from the photos she put out in social media that she swore up and down were not photoshopped, so it must be editing, or maybe she is going to sue the designer of the sweat pants for not flattering her butt even though she paid $6,000 for them. Their "walk" was the slowest, laziest dog walking I've ever witnessed. What is she talking about, she chose a younger man so he could keep up with her? A sloth could keep up with her! That lofted fort in KJ's bedroom was super sweet. I can't believe I envy a 4 year old boy with a potty mouth and a mean disposition.

I really don't know, I just can't for the life of me come up with any other reason that explains them still being a couple. It's not their deep, scintillating conversations, that's for sure. On the aftershow it was said that they have been on vacations together since Paradise. Samantha seems to very much enjoy vacations - if she's not traveling for fun on TV then she's traveling for fun with people she met on TV. I guess it's not a bad gig if you can get it, but I feel bad for whoever is with her. You can only say, "OMG you have the best face/hair/eyes/body I've ever seen" so many times before it starts to get awkward.