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I thought this film was very well done. Bill's pain and his search for the truth after 40 years made for riveting viewing. It was good that there was actual film footage of Kitty as a teenager and a young woman - it made her very real - an actual "person" instead of the synonym for I'm Not Getting Involved Apathy. And I second the recommendation of the Kevin Cook book mentioned by Cuppasun. I read the book last year and it was an eye opener. The really sad thing was that there was one person who could have possibly saved Kitty's life and instead closed his door. He was mentioned in the film and he was the guy who had the pet store. The book goes into more detail about him and his friendship with Kitty and her girlfriend.

This was a good episode - I loved that the entire crew was there (for once). When they set up the OTB ploy Mr. 12cat immediately blurted out, "This is from 'The Sting'". I saw that movie when I was maybe 12, so I didn't remember that. Loved "The Nerds" dressed up and ready to play, except what the hell was that bow on Loretta's hair? There is no way, no how, that woman would have something like that on her head IRL! I don't think anybody over the age of 7 has worn a bow on their head since Madonna in 1984. Gregorio cleans up well, though she still always looks like she just rolled out of somebody's bed. Is "louche" the correct word for it? And it seems the inside a letter agency mole is the on-going thing with all the NCIS shows at the moment.

I don't want Rollisi. Now thats out of the way, the actress who played the doctor mom is Zoe McLellan, looking almost unrecognizable from her role as the badly missed Meredith Brody on NCIS New Orleans.

Wow. I thought the previous episode was an incoherent mess - this one tops that. At the end we got a decent good guys catch bad guys detective story but the ride in getting there had my had spinning. They show us Sherlock using drugs but I'm beginning to think that the show's writers are sitting in their rooms doing some serious peyote buttons and/or the viewer has got to be smoking something to figure out what the hell is going on here. A big thanks for everyone posting which is making for interesting reading and maybe offering me some insight into what I've been watching for the last two episodes. We'll see how much of the viewer chewing on "clues" and the resulting speculation on the story comes to pass. Right now this is starting to remind me of "True Detective" #1 where viewers were citing obscure books and mythology and all sorts of mystical stuff and the ending turned out to be something akin to a crappy late 60s AIP or Hammer hippie exploitation horror film.

Oh my God, the show was half an hour of tasteless vulgarity but I have to admit that I did plenty of laughing while cringing at the same time. I grew up with an alcoholic mother (as was most of her family) and I saw stuff that made last night's show look very tame in comparison. What I really liked was how Bonnie & Christy saw how awful drunken excess looks to the hapless sober people who have to be there to watch it. Agreed that Adam's drinking/pot smoking is going to become an issue with him and Bonnie. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how the show is going to handle this. It really is a big problem when one person is trying to stay sober, yet involved with a partner who isn't sober and who has a problem but isn't ready to admit it. And I think that Adam DOES have a substance abuse problem but is in denial about it. It's going to be interesting when Bonnie finally confronts him and the question is going to be whether he is going to choose her or his drinking/pot smoking/partying lifestyle.

My first thought in bumping off Qasim is that they are now going to shove an Ellie/Reeves relationship down our throat. Not in the next couple of episodes but somewhere down the line. I think they've been setting that one up since all the talk about Ellie/Reeves becoming friends "in Scotland". Poor Qasim was just the placeholder to get us off the track of that for a short while.

I like this show also. It is sort of a modern version of old shows like "Medical Center" or "Marcus Welby MD" with a touch of "Highway To Heaven" or "Touched by An Angel", except high-tech kind of replaces the super-natural. I like the lack of villains, I like how the main cast are all people who want to "do good", and I like the actors playing the recurring characters. Unfortunately, a show like this is going to skew towards an older female audience and that's the kiss of date in TV land. Another show that I'm missing is "Proof" another feel-good medical show that didn't have tons of drama and also didn't last long.

It's been interesting reading everyone's thoughts about this episode. I was very disappointed in it - to me it seemed incoherent and disjointed and made me long for the earlier episodes. I like Mary but thought making her the super-spy assassin was over the top. I also disliked the fight scene with Sherlock and AJ - I mean, really, we don't get enough of that kind of crap on every other tv show out there (cop/action/adventure)? Does anybody else think that Martin Freeman looks like he's aged 10 years since the last episodes? I kept looking at him going WTH - maybe has something to do with his hair? Dunno. I hope that the new episodes are better than this - right now I'm longing for Elementary, which may not get all the hoopla Sherlock gets, but which in my opinion is actually a better show.

Not many comments on this series. I felt it was very interesting watching it but ultimately had no answers to much of anything. If nothing else, I hope that it shed some light on all these women who have gone missing and who ultimately the police (and society) don't seem to give a crap about. And as a person who has read a shit load of "true crime" books since I was a kid (we're talking 40 years here), about the only way most of these serial killers get caught is when they either totally fuck up (almost WANTING to get caught) or by pure accident. We had two guys here on Long Island in late 80s, early 90s. Joel Rifkin was caught apparently driving without license plates and when finally stopped, had a victim's body in his vehicle, and I don't remember the details about how they caught Robert Schulman but it had something to do with a car. There has been speculation that Rifkin might have something to do with a least some of the Gilgo Beach murders, but he denies it. And with all of the corruption in the Suffolk Cty police dept and local governments here, God only knows about Gilgo Beach. I don't see them finding the killer any time soon.

Thank God the idiot baby drama is done and the kid was the other guy's EVEN THOUGH THE BABY LOOKED LIKE LASALLE!. LOL with that one... Now we'll probably have more LaSalle romance drama 'cause he really wants to be a Daddy. I really hope they don't go there with him and Percy. And I hope they don't go there with Pride and Gregorio either. Something tells me that her same sex affair was a "phase" and it's gonna take a "real man" to bring her back to the hetero fold. And I agree about hair/wardrobe not liking Vanessa Ferlito. Either that or one of the producers thinks that looking like a hot mess is "sexy". Even her makeup is awful.

Welcome to 2016! FIRST you have sex, THEN you go out on a date....

Maybe HurricaneVal is on to something about LaSalle's brother being the baby daddy. And I agree with whoever said that this season seems like they're throwing the do-do at the wall to see what sticks. This season doesn't have the feel of the prior seasons. It just seems ... off. I don't hate the FBI chick but don't really like her all that much. I'm still missing Merri. Here's a story for you: almost 40 years ago I knew a guy who lived the LaSalle baby story line. He was the brother of my BIL's wife. He had a one night stand with a woman he met at a bar. He even used "protection". About a month later she searches him out and says she with child. Much to everybody's horror, he actually married this woman he didn't really know. Fast forward about 10 years and another kid or two later, and the wife announces that "she wants to go find herself". And also decides to rub his nose in the fact that the oldest child, who he totally adored, was NOT his child; she was already pregnant when she went to bed with him. So yeah, this shit DOES happen, but in 2016, you'd think a TV show NCIS agent would be savvy enough to not fall for it. And to not insult the intelligence of the viewing public by letting him fall for it.

Yeah the baby will probably be a big fake-out but then it will get Lasalle thinking how he'd love to find a good woman and stop his partying ways. Open the door to romance... the hell the show tanked Pride's marriage and killed off Lasalle's girlfriend from season 1. I just hope that they don't force the Lasalle/Sonja thing on us. Keep them as good friends - no chemistry between the actors - and makes for less workplace "drama".

The article on the Merri Brody thread wasn't too enlightening. I remember reading somewhere that her ex-husband had been given some obscene amount of money in alimony after her getting on NCIS-NO. I'm sure after going through a nasty divorce/child custody thing, the actress may have just said "screw it" or had so much stress that it created problems while filming the show. Maybe we will never know. Gotta say I'm not a fan of the new woman. She's not terrible but I still find her annoying. And maybe not the actress's fault but I'm annoyed with her shirt always so low-cut (to the point of where her bra is showing in some scenes). Can't women be strong and badass and competent without being made into sex objects? In reality, would most woman FBI agents be running around on the job dressed like that?

What happened to Brody (or rather, the actress who played her) seems to be the big question this season. Anybody read anything yet? And No! To Lasalle and the baby drama. How many times do tv shows have to beat this thing to death of male characters finding out that they have children (grown or otherwise) they didn't know about. And why did the baby mama wait so long until telling him? Ugh - show don't go down that path!

"anonymous sperm donor" will be the next "don't miss" twist. Red supposedly doesn't lie, so either he told the truth when he told Lizzie that he wasn't her father back in season 1, or guess what! Red DOES lie and he really is her Daddy. Yawn. Something that could've been figured out if our super-smart special agent Lizzie would've actually done a dna test from the get go. Like when she had his blood when she stabbed him in the neck with the pen. And another thing so sad/annoying about this show: you have a main character who gets outshone by every single other person on this show - whether Red or the DMV guy or even boring Ressler. And it boils done to a combo of poor writing and an actress who doesn't have the chops to rise above the poorly written part she has to play. This could have been a really good show - unfortunately, they are wasting a good cast (with the exception of Meghan Boone) on crap. This could have been an interesting comic book alternate universe, but even comic books have their mythology in place and continuity in their world. This show has neither. And it insults the viewers' intelligence and to me, that's the worst sin of all.

Frankly, I think the writers are making up this shit as they go along. I was also thinking about the Red/Tom scene on the bench at the hospital in season 1. If I recall, there had been comments on another forum (the late lamented TVWP) at the time about how Tom was looking at Red while Red was giving a little speech about how Lizzie's father will always be watching over her. At the time, it was a great scene because you could see what a good actor the guy playing Tom was. He said everything with just his eyes as Red was speaking to him. At that point, Tom was still portrayed as being the glasses wearing school teacher and not the badass mercenary he was later shown to be. It later came out that Red had hired Tom to "look after" Liz, so logic would tell you that Tom and Ray knew damn well who each other was when they met at the hospital. Did the writers remember that? Do they remember anything previously written in this show, whether Lizzie's scar, dogs, her pick-pocketing skills, The Fulcrum in the stuffed rabbit.... ANYTHING????

18 -49 years old huh? I'd love to know how many 18 year olds are watching the same shows as 35 year olds, let alone 49 year olds! They really need to get these ratings systems into 2016 and out of 1965. And I guess that my "household" doesn't even count, containing a 59 and 69 year old. The tv execs probably think that we should just drop dead.

Is anybody out there watching this show??? I kind of like it - it has likable characters, happy endings, and no villains. And no hot sex scenes either. I guess that doesn't cut it for 2016. Unfortunately, two New York newspapers have already said that this show is going to be dumped - and this was before the 2nd episode was even aired. Too bad.

I'm happy that this show is back - I really look forward to it on Thurs nights. I have a feeling that Bonnie and her boyfriend aren't going to last all that long. She's totally nuts and he looks like he has a drinking problem - not the best partner for a person who is in AA and trying to stay sober!

Is the guy who plays "Mouse" leaving the show? Looks like they are setting up his leaving.

@ LoneHaranguer - maybe because the woman was pregnant they couldn't risk using something like using immune therapy which might have injured the baby? Also, her tumor was growing very rapidly and there might not have been the time to wait to see if immune therapy would work.

What was the movie they were goofing on in the finale episode? Bill Hader kind of looked like Robert Evans - was there a documentary made about him?

I enjoy this show but wish that Meri would come back. Yep, another cliche of new team member with a "past", on top of the NY stereotyping. And I really hate when my intelligence is insulted by having a plane crash which then appears to explode on contact, leaving the plane in parts, and then HAVING SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SURVIVE! And without any obviously broken bones, or even worse injuries. REALLY??? I understand that you have to usually deal with some element of fantasy in most tv shows, but this veers in Blacklist territory.

Totally, totally in love with this show! If you've seen the original documentaries they are basing these on, you'll have even more of an appreciation on what they're doing. Some months ago, my companion and I started watching "Salesmen" and we had to turn it off due to total boredom. Now we wish we would've seen it through after watching "Globesmen".