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I'll sit alone at my table for one. I enjoyed it. Was it the most emotionally satisfying ending for me? No, but at this point I don't know what would be. I like Laura Neal as a writer (she wrote pretty much the only episodes I liked in season 3), but I am amazed that they entrusted the final season of a once-beloved show to a first timer. According to IMDB, this is her first producing credit. I also wonder how things would have turned out differently without the pandemic break and the announcement that the show was ending. I remember back in May or June of 2020, the writers' room celebrated having finished the scripts for season 4 on social media (which is when the controversy over the lack of diversity in the writers room' blew up.) I'm wondering how drastically they had to change storylines/scripts once they received word that it was ending. Jodie and Sandra's chemistry is just dynamite. I could watch a whole series of the 2 of them driving around Europe in a camper van killing people. With breaks for peeing and kissing. I'm sure the 17 year old nut jobs are Twitter and Tumblr are wailing that we never got a full-frontal nudity/bordering on porn sex scene but this show was never going to do that. Go read fanfiction. P.S. They totally banged in the camper van after their makeout session. I full on cackled when they showed Eve hanging on the tree for dear life and their reactions to Gunn as they fled in the boat. Also thought Gunn's "She's mine!" was a nice flashback to the season 2 finale. Pam never would have been a good assasin because she had something that Villanelle and Gunn lacked - a conscience. I am curious as to how Carolyn knew where the meeting was taking place? She was convinced it was a hotel, then it was in a pub, how did she learn it was on the boat? All of her contacts within the 12 were seemingly dead? Did Vlad get it out of Mr. Bird Hunter? Who knows. I'm not ENTIRELY sure why Carolyn seemed so desperate to get back into MI-6, but... I appreciated the romanticism of the final scenes even if I thought the symbolism was a bit heavy-handed (Eve's declaration about relationships, the bloody angel wings, the raising of Tower Bridge) but overall I'm pretty satisfied. Again, I'll be over here at a corner table by myself.
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I will try to keep my comments in this thread confined to episode 7 but it is a bit tough to distinguish where this one ended and 8 began. I actually gasped out loud when Eve had that flashback, not just because of the appearance of Bill & Elena (still don't care about Nico/Niko, I don't even remember how to spell his name), but because it so perfectly tied in to what we saw with the first appearance of Eve - MASSIVELY hungover from a drunken karaoke bash the night before. I thought it was a great call-back, coupled with her session with Martin, to how "boring" and "normal" her life was and how she's been truly undone wrestling with the darkness inside of her. Great stuff by Sandra Oh, yet again. I did appreciate that Yusuf was like, "You're even more effed up than I thought. See you later, alligator." and he was unharmed. He was the only new character that I felt they introduced successfully this season. I will miss Papa Bear Konstantin even if I hated all of the time they wasted on him training Pam. I was hoping that after she killed him, she would throw herself off a pier. Although I did think the tenderness she showed with his body was really lovely. Something that confused me though - Pam got a digital "postcard" saying Margate -- Sunday Funday. Obviously she thought she was taking orders from Helene hence her shock when she learned she was dead. But who sent her that postcard? Helene was already dead when they showed her receiving it and by that point, Eve had Helene's phone. I suppose the order could have come from someone else but that was a really sloppy script continuity error. Too much time wasted on the island with Gunn but I did appreciate some of the little comedic bits served up by Villanelle. Remembering how she wanted to shack up with Eve in a cabin and then experiencing what living in an actual cabin (or in her case, barn) was actually like. And her facial expressions when she was eating the leaves and when Gunn sniffed her cracked me up. I guess there CAN be an even bigger nutter than Villanelle and that nutter is Gunn.
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I am one of those people! My gaming experience pretty much peaked with the original Super Mario Bros. for Nintendo so this was an entirely new world for me. But I thought it was clever and sweet and fun to watch. I absolutely LOVED all of the smack talk about original IP vs. sequels and reboots and existing IP because that is my main gripe about movies these days. If it isn't a franchise, does it even exist?
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Also mentions that this Sunday is the finale so it appears episodes 7 and 8 will air back to back.
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That entire scene made me cackle with glee. From Villanelle's barely suppressed laughter after the fart to her jealous streak showing, it was just maniacally batshit. But at this point I have no idea what anyone's motivation for doing anything is. Carolyn wants to know who ordered the hit on Kenny, but what does everyone else want? I was also hoping that Gunn would be played by Phoebe Waller-Bridge. But she probably read the scripts and said, "Hard pass!"
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This episode gave me whiplash. Several moments that had me yelling "Hell yeah" followed by several that had me thinking "WTF?" Pam is this season's Geraldine. A ton of time wasted on a character that brings absolutely nothing to the storyline. I was actually rooting for Fernanda to kill her. I'm truly confused as to what Eve's motivation was for killing Lars. I wish this show would spend less time introducing new characters and more time exploring the characters we fell in love with and presenting a cohesive storyline. I don't need to see Gunn and Villanelle bonding, show. There are only 2 episodes left. Unless the finale is a 3-hour, cinematic extravaganza, I fail to see how this wrap up is going to be anything other than a disappointment. Also, I'm not a psychotic Villaneve shipper but seriously show??? Either shit or get off the pot. If it's not going to happen, stop teasing that it will. Good riddance, Helene.
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Eve was demonstrating to Helene that she knows her weakness and isn't afraid to exploit it. It was a power play on Eve's part. Of course Helene then had to say, "Well, two can play that game..." hence Villanelle getting shot with an arrow in front of Eve.
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The problem that I see with this though is that Pam doesn't have an ounce of the charisma that Villanelle has. So for me her blossoming is just one big, time-wasting nothingburger. YMMV.
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I have to watch every episode twice - once on DVR delay on Sunday night and again via streaming with closed captioning on Monday to get every little detail. The audio when it airs on BBC America always seems horribly garbled to me. Or maybe I'm just getting old. šµ
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I'm still enjoying it although I'm not breathless with anticipation each Sunday night like I was for previous seasons. While I love Konstantin, I wish they wouldn't devote so much time to Pam's storyline. If it isn't connected to the larger narrative, I don't care. When they announced that this would be the final season, they indicated that they were exploring certain spin-off ideas. If this is the direction they're thinking of taking said spin-off, I think it will bomb spectacularly. I absolutely adored seeing Fiona and Jodie play off each other so extensively in this episode. It really did feel a bit like a season 1 episode with those 2. I know she has been nominated for each season previously but I REALLY hope Emmy voters don't forget about Fiona Shaw this year. I feel like Eve is "playing" Helene rather than having some long-awaited sexual awakening. But Helene is not gullible enough to fall for it. Does Eve think she will spill all based on a (hysterically awkward) bath and a kiss? I can't wait to see what form of torture Villanelle has in store for Helene when she realizes that she's gotten further with Eve than she has. š Now that we're officially halfway through the season, they really do need to get the core four (or three if Konstantin is going to continue being the Assassin Professor) on the same page and in the same room.
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THIS. We know it's going to happen based on the season trailer - get on it with it already. I don't really need to see Pam's evolution as an assassin. It's clear that Villanelle is still head over heels for Eve. I'll be curious to see how she justifies the betrayal of Eve throwing her in prison. Shades of season 2 when she explains to Gabriel that Eve stabbed her to show how much she cares about her?
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https://lithub.com/its-an-honor-just-to-be-asian-sandra-oh-on-systemic-racism-in-hollywood/ A really lovely excerpt from a forthcoming book about Asians in pop culture.
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I'm happy the Jesus stuff seems to be over and done with as that was becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate. This show doesn't work when they have the core four off doing their own things. While they're not together, at least for now Carolyn and Eve seem to be on parallel tracks. Curious to see how Konstantin will fit into all of this. I am absolutely LOVING the material they are giving Sandra Oh to work with after the debacle that was series 3. I hope they keep it up. And sexy, determined, somewhat confident Eve could get it. š
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I'll sit with you. While I did have some quibbles with it, I was just so damn happy to have these ladies back in my life. I do hope that at some point we get some exposition on what happened in the ensuing months/years? following the end of season 3. Eve and Villanelle went from being sort of "okay" with each other on the bridge to Eve seemingly hating her guts. What's that all about? I thought Villanelle expecting Eve to come to her baptism and her disappointment when she didn't to be a nice callback to the Amsterdam pig murder in season 2. And of course, Hugo's appearance. But I don't recall Hugo being such a "rah-rah" MI6 defender. He always struck me as a posh git who was just biding his time until something more interesting came along. I'd be fine if we don't see him again. I love sassy Eve but of course, Eve being Eve I fully expect her to trip over her own feet a few times before she, Carolyn and Villanelle eventually join forces. I'm intrigued.
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Airs 2/27 š¤
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Lovely little interview with Oh and Comer. There is a detail mentioned that made me EXTREMELY happy: While I love this show desperately, the constant wait for them to end up in one another's orbit in each season has always frustrated the crap out of me.
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I love Wanda but am "meh" on Amy. I'm a bit perplexed by the selection of Regina. I know and like her as an actress but her inclusion here seems very random. Does she have any hosting or comedic chops I'm not aware of? Overall though I'm delighted the Academy didn't go in the direction I thought they were.
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I enjoyed this. It's not great television and certainly won't win any awards but it was a fine weekend binge to take me out of my head for a couple of days. I tend to avoid "The Woman", "The Girl" books like the plague these days after reading a few and realizing they all rely on the same tropes. They also like to throw in an M. Night Shymalamadingdong type twist at the end that is usually laughable so seeing a send-up was great fun for me. I wouldn't be mad if they made a second series but seeing as how this one worked because she was a lonely drunk, I don't know how they could replicate it.
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I may have egg on my face in a few weeks based on what's in the trailer. š
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I kept waiting for someone in the yoga class to follow her out and attempt to comfort her. When no one did, I was shattered. Her entire arc this season just broke my heart.