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Can someone tell me if that is Jordan to the right of John and Jennifer between Michelle and Jana or do I have it backwards. I'm pretty sure that is Hannie facing away from Jessa.

I think the Duggars mostly thanked their mom for bravely putting her life on the line for them to be born on Mother's Day. I can just imagine the "talk" Jim Bob gave to the kids nightly on the week leading up to Mother's Day, when the kids were all circled up in the boy's room, in their pj's, about this. The purpose was to make them feel guilty for Michelle facing death to deliver them, how heroic she was to do this, and make the kids more loyal to her. It was also during this nightly "bible/family" time where Jim-Bob would pick a verse from the bible, read it to the kids and then explain it in Jim-Bob perspective. That's how the kids "learned" the bible.

I never thought it would happen either. Seeing Tim look so happy with Heidi's family and not blowing a gasket by how the women dress is crazy to me. I do hope that Heidi, her mom and her family have slowly explained to Tim how and why they believe, and he has given himself the permission to let go of some previously imbedded values. Tim was so rigid in his (Jill's) beliefs before Heidi. I'm very surprised by the change. I do hope he isn't just "allowing" this until he is married and has sex, and then goes back to being a prick.

I don't think opening gifts early is wrong. I think they wanted their video for this week to be done. Although I don't see anything wrong with putting out their Christmas video next Friday and then a New Years video out the next Friday and not rushing it. Even if they are spending Christmas at John's parents' home, it isn't like they have to travel for that. I do hope they get a couple more gifts on Christmas day. Those Squish-mallows that they got in their stockings are very popular this year. Different sizes and characters to choose from. I heard Alyssa tell Allie that one of the ones she got was the bigger size, which I'm guessing was supposed to impress her. The car was much needed and truly a gift to the kids, for their safety, although they probably aren't that excited about it. It was a sad video, only done for content. That's what gets me. And the treatment of Allie. I feel the 3 oldest are always overlooked and only Macy and Rhett get attention now.

I am hoping that the Webster's will have another Christmas, on Christmas day and the girls will get another gift or two. I'm sure they filmed this Christmas early, so they had their content for this week. My first red flag is when Aylssa reminded the girls that this was Rhett's 1st Christmas and she told them he was going to open his gift first and she started to say, "because it's all about him this year" but caught herself and said it was his first Christmas. Second, if you get everyone the same pair of shoes, at least let them all open that gift at the same time. Allie already knew what 2 of her gifts were because she had already seen her siblings open them before her, 4 times. What a letdown. One pair of shoes she didn't even mention as Alyssa was busy filming something away from her, and when Alyssa came back to her she saw she had opened the second set of shoes. Alyssa pointed out the shoes and was all excited about them, but Allie didn't say much about them. She was visibly disappointed in the doll cloths. She had no idea what they were and as BitterApple pointed out, seemed far removed from playing with them. Maybe Alysaa only went along with it because the grandmother asked her too. She mentioned it twice that it would make more sense once she got the gift from her grandmother. Unless it's a trip to Disney World, I doubt Allie is going to care. Remember last year when all Allie wanted was to take ballet? No mention of that since then. Whew, Alyssa and John nipped that in the bud quickly. At least John let Alyssa get her new wheels, Rhett is about to start walking. and the other three girls seemed happy with their gifts. But something was off with Allie.

OK, I sort of watched Part 1 and 2. I admit that I did FF through some of it because Lawson just goes on and on about the same thing. and in a lot of the footage, he is shirtless. Since I did FF, I could have missed some things. Part 1. Tiff does tease Lawson that she is pregnant. She usually just blurts it out at weird times. He never seemed to take it seriously and appeared to know she was joking around. (Not a funny joke IMO.) One time when she did it, he did bring up the story about the boy who called wolf too many times. Then she takes a pregnancy test, just because, and she freaks out because the test indicates that she is pregnant. This goes on for a while. That first freak out. She takes another test. She freaks out again. She plans how to tell Lawson. There is some shirtless Lawson footage around this part, so I certainly FF through it. When she finally does tell him, she has a little "I'm pregnant" display of things, pregnancy test and baby items. Lawson walks in the room, sees the display and immediately falls to his knees. I guess he believed her. He goes through a long freak out too. Starts questioning what they do next. Over and over. He wants to see a doctor immediately since they do not know any of Tiff's medical background and because they are about to be overseas, or something like that. Part II - Lawson and Tiff talk about being in the high desert about 100x. She goes to a doctor and that doctor wants her to have some testing done and see a specialist. I FF through a lot of this, so I may have missed some important info. They figure out a way to tell Tiff's parents and her brother. I may have this wrong, but I think this all happened right before they were to go traveling over in Europe. Lawson again appears shirtless in much of this part of the video, so I FF again. But it goes on and on. I will admit, when they tell Tiff's parents, it was sweet. Her mom and dad were excited. Tiff and Lawson were emotional. It was touching. Soon though, Tiff is in the hospital soon after having test done. Within a few days, she had lost the baby. I know this was a difficult time and moment. When they are filming and talking about it, Lawson just goes 'round and 'round with his words. Saying the same thing. Tiff just cries. I feel for her. I even feel for him. She said they are showing all this footage so that they may help just one other person who had to go through this know they are not alone or to understand what does happen. To wrap it up, Part One was all about, "We don't know what to do as this is our first time to go through this regarding becoming pregnant and what to do once Tiff is pregnant" and Part II was, "We don't know what to do as this is our first time to go through this as we lost our baby".

I might have to watch this video to see her pranking him. Sounds awful and just reading about it has changed my opinion of Tiffany. I'm curious how she convinced Lawson when she really was pregnant that it was true? I guess I'll go watch it for myself.

Travis - "Hey Mama B. Katie is in real pain right now and can't lift anything over 10 lbs. My mom has been watching Haley for a week now while Katie and I were on our anniversary trip and then while we were in the hospital and now that we are home, I need some "me" time. You know how exhausting that hospital sitting can be. Could you come up and keep Katie company and take care of Haley while I go play simulator golf at my buddies house, go practice some new songs I'm trying out and then there is football to watch and church to go too." "Oh you can't come. Well darn. But Ellie could if I can find a way to get her there? Ok" "Hey Carlin ..." Yeah, Carlin is there so Katie has someone to talk with and Ellie is there to take care of Haley, Layla, Zade and do housework.

They posted another story today shilling those picture tiles. Looks like they have moved to a home, because they were placing the tiles on a real wall and it looked like the room the wall was in branched off in a couple of ways, so not like a mobile home. Just my observation.

Jer really looks like a young Boob in that pic above. Poor guy. Wonder what is holding Jason back from marriage. Hasn't he been "getting to know" someone for a while now?

Abby posted pictures today to push matching Christmas pajamas. Her kids are in the pictures, and they look so healthy and vibrant. I'm sure John's kids have the same unfunctional upbringing as the other Duggar grandkids, but they appear to be clean.

Steve really worked hard to overcome last place.

It's a real shame that the window got covered. Natural light in a kitchen is so nice.

It seems odd to me that Katie always stays with Carlin when she comes to visit. Why not at her parents' house? They have that nice, big guest room now. And it appears that the younger sisters came to Carlin's to see Katie and the baby. Is Katie not even going to her parents' house? I guess when she says she is homesick she means she is homesick for Carlin. I haven't seen Katie visiting with Josie or any of the other married sisters in the area. I see Kelly interacting with her children and grandchildren, but Gil seems to never see them.

Tiff has been taking pregnancy test since a couple of months into the marriage. I imagine she is seeing a doctor about the absents of a pregnancy by now. I think they would be a better couple if they moved to CA to be by her parents.

I don't see any evidence of Zach and Whitney tiring of Carlin and Evan. They seem to do things with them on the regular. They didn't have to go camping with them, but they did. They do a lot with them when they don't have too. And I also thought Katie was maturing with her life in NJ and away from TN, but it doesn't seem so. Still homesick and begging her husband to move her back.

Does Jill want us to think that Renee broke off her relationship with her mystery man because he wanted her to compromise her convictions and beliefs?

Anyone in here planning to sign up for the magazine and if so, would share what is in it in here?

Yep. But her lifestyle never did fit that confession.

And probably pages on how to decorate a small space and where to purchase big maps. The older kids had to have known how to view Jill's sm post because sometimes they wrote beautiful tributes to her and/or just like recently, replied to something she had written. So, they had to have access to it right? Oh wait ...

She makes it sound like they are living together. They are not even engaged yet, right?

Time enough for that 5-day thingy, she's got a ladies camping trip to get ready for. Go go go, party party. So much for those 2-3 times a week migraine with a day of recovery afterwards. She's got way more important things to do like dumping a bucket of water on her 3-year-old.

Again, I am amazed by Zade's so laid-back personality. In that clip of Layla painting that pumpkin with an "i I" (her letter of the day maybe?) he's just sitting next to his sister holding a small pumpkin but not bothering Layla as she paints. He's not reaching for anything, trying to get to the paint or bothering Layla's work He keeps looking back at whoever is filming, maybe wondering if they are going to help him. I guess no did help him and he didn't get to paint his pumpkin, as they only showed Layla's finished work. Or that is all I saw.

Thank you.

Did Jessa remove all those post of what the kids said over the summer? I do not see them.