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Adoptive parents aren’t “Step” parents. Regardless of anything else, if the kids were adopted by Kody, he is their parent period. Let’s at least not dismiss the reality of adoption for all adoptees over our shared belief that he’s a douchebag and Aurora has an overly worshipful adoration of him.

Feels like they couldn’t figure out what storyline would work without Christine….so they gave two equally ridiculous conflicts that literally make zero sense: Nicole mad at Chrishelle that Jason put both of them on a co-listing THREE YEARS AGO, when the outcome was that Chriselle actually took no commission! And equally ridiculous Chelsea who dislikes and pokes at newcomer Bre, all because she disagrees with her choosing to have a baby with a serial sperm donor…quite literally why is that her business? Any normal person might say “yeah, not for me” but they’d never disrupt their office relationships over disagreeing with someone about anything like that. When the storylines are this bad, the show really loses all appeal.

Plot line is the little boy uttering one curse word, and getting his mouth washed out with soap…that’s it.

Who talks to a woman like that Joe Gorga? You do, you have repeatedly spoken horribly to multiple women on this show! I cannot stand the Gorgas and they obviously deserve each other, I just wish they’d get off this show. Teresa is not bright, but she’s funny and adores her kids and I hope she really does find a sense of peace and happiness in her marriage, without having to deal with her horrible brother and his wife anymore. I love Delores, like Jennifer and would love to never see snake Margaret, Jackie or the other two new ladies again. Bravo…kept Teresa, Jen and Delores and get them some new friends, we need some fun antics and no more vile people.

How ever did Jill or Tim handle the horror of her sister in pants? Both days!

Jazz says she’s the person she is today because of Jeanette - this is so true! Jeanettes own mental health issues have affected Jazz profoundly, as she continually questions every move Jazz makes, verbalizes such negativity and worries excessively. She admits her own behavior is a problem, but refuses to change it. Both of them need therapy, and more than anything Jeanette needs to cut her codependency ties to Jazz. Ari, Greg and one of the twins seem relatively competent, I can’t fathom how none of them see the issue.

Jazz inherited mental health issues from Jeanette. She needs serious therapy and help.

I listened to the podcast interview with Christine, and the one thing that caught my attention was her admitting she got counseling to prep for and learn how to handle the drama from Kody around her leaving, including hypnotherapy. Sure…she says she could yell back and counter all the crap he spews, but why bother. Her therapist, I’ve said all along, is gold…she’s completely unhinged him, by simply not following the script his narcissism demands. Well played Christine!

My adult daughter and my young, at home daughters grandparents lives 2-4 hours away, we didn’t see them in person for almost 2 years due to Covid, but we video called 1-2x a week during that time…because it is important to be connected to your family. If they’d been close enough for outdoor visiting during that time, it would have happened regularly. Kody couldn’t bother telephoning, FaceTiming or making outdoor visits to his kids who live in the same town, for months at a time. He simply is a crap father.

The way Kody keeps going on and on about “everyone” hating him and thinking he’s the bad guy, I think it’s clear no small number of his adult children have actually told him outright they think he is a crap father and a worse husband to their mothers. Maybe not Maddie, Mykelti or Aspen, or Logan who simply shows it through his actions, but certainly the other adult sons and likely Gwen. Something like that would truly feed his rage as King of the family.

Mary…..”I don’t consider Christine to be a sister wife as don’t you have to be a wife?” Heads up woman - all it took for Christine to not be a wife was HER saying I’m leaving Kody and so divorced. Kody…..”I don’t consider myself married to Mary and she can move on to someone else at any time”. Heads up woman - YOU are not a “wife” either, no more than Kody is a husband…in the absence of a legal marriage, it only takes one side to walk away clearly.

So Gwen thought Christine and Kody should have divorced a long time ago….such as before they moved to Vegas? Is that what she said? Sorry Kody, if your kids could see how badly you treated their mother for years, you have no business acting blindsided by her deciding to finally leave now. Also, she literally said on camera 2-3 seasons ago that she couldn’t do marriage with Kody anymore, does he expect us to believe he never saw that? And seeing it, why on earth would he not sit down with his “wife” and talk about it? He continues to push this narrative that she never gave him a chance when all she’s done is give him 25 years of chances….and in return she’s been shut down, ignored, told it’s all her fault, had all intimacy withheld and her kids ignored. I could not find a worse example of a husband and father if I tried. Truely shoveling snow makes me wonder if she was even allowed in the house on the rare occasions he brought her over, much less into a bedroom.

Forgot to mention how I loved Princess Ariola made sure none of us fell for Kodys “interpretation” of her teachers phone call…no, she wasn’t kindly assisting a shy child, she was pestering and bothering a child who couldn’t get away from her to the point the teacher had to report her behavior to her parents! She has never been required to behave in her monogamous parents home, and has never had other moms who are less blinded by her many faults to step in and correct her and make her mind, so she - on the first day of school - warrants a call from the teacher about her failure to listen to others and leave them alone! Imagine that poor girls report of her own first day of Kindergarten - this horrible girl kept bothering me and no matter what I did or said she wouldn’t leave me alone…it was awful!

1. Kody will never own up to his relationship with his children being his responsibility and no one else’s. Absolutely nothing has stopped him from picking up a phone or tablet and speaking directly to and connecting with his children for years! They are not Robyn’s and Christines kids, they all have a father and they are HIS kids too. His lack of connection with them is a direct result if his own behavior toward them, and his own lack of participation in their lives. Refusing to so much as stop by and pick Truly up for a one-on-one dinner after her long trip is just example 1,000,000 of all the ways he sucks as a father. 2. How Robyn “misunderstood” some comment so grossly and reacted like a lunatic was bizarre. She is clearly SO threatened by her awareness that the world sees the truth of her impact on the entire family and how her desire to ensure her kids got their due that she is the root of the family disintegration and she simply cannot stand it. She came with an agenda and jumped in with both feet to call Christine a liar when just just week she admitted she knew Christine was unhappy and talking about leaving Kody in Vegas. 3. Meri coming to the realization that when Christine simply states she’s no longer married to Kody since their marriage was spiritual and associated with a church none of them have attended for years, the marriage is in fact over…. it means no matter that Meri “stays”, Kody has actually already done the exact same thing to her so in fact he is NOT her husband and she’s not married because he has outright said multiple times he doesn’t consider himself married to Meri - that was fun! On a side note…that hurts doesn’t it Kody? You do not like it when someone else just decides they aren’t married to you anymore and just walks away without giving you the opportunity to agree that you will end your relationship. Maybe you’ll have a little empathy for how Meri feels now (or not, you are a raging narcissist). Yes Christine, you do just get to decide you’re divorced. 4. Christine and Janelles kids are all pretty great. They also have never treated Robyn's kids badly at all…that’s all just gaslite victimization. 5. Kodys derangement next week looks enjoyable to watch. 6. Christine has many faults and has made a lot of mistakes over the years, but she truly has stood up to Kody, Meri and Robyn’s tactics with grace and calm (for the most part) control. Good for her. 7. Kody…it cannot be any surprise to you that many of your adult children see right through you and your failure as a husband and parent, and have little interest in pretending you are a good guy any longer. It’s your fault, not their mothers…cannot say that enough. 8. If Janelle doesn’t either outright declare divorce or quiet quit, I’ll be disappointed. 9. Kody…no one has ever thought you legitimacy to polygamy, you’ve always shown it’s a terrible way to live most of the time. 10. Shut up Robyn.

Go Christine! Robyn No…Kody doesn’t have 3 other marriages he needs to work on, he gave up on that years ago. He has one other marriage and it seems you’re not enjoying it now that his snits are affecting you. Robyn Really? You’d never do anything to hurt this family? I think you meant to say you’d never do anything to hurt your little insular group within this family, because everything you did to this family that hurt them we’ve all watched over the years, all in your attempts to manage getting what you wanted for your kids (and thanks for owning up to that, in your mind it always been about you and what you give to your kids). Robyn you completely grasp and can acknowledge that neither Mary or Christine have any hope of Kody ever truly having any type of real relationship with them as his wives, and yet you struggle to understand how Christine could leave, and ask Mary to continue to stay - for you. You really are a piece of work, as much as Kody is. Robyn…. Christine and Janelles kids aren’t hearing one side of the story…Kodys side has been filmed and displayed for years, and he’s reaping the result of his own actions and words. The reason the kids are okay with Christine leaving is they are the players who truly do grasp the big picture. Kody, your delusion is endless, truly without end. Your kids have never been important enough to you for you to do anything with them they enjoy, we’ve seen that over the years. You do things with them YOU enjoy, and even then it’s rare. There is no reason for their mothers to talk in their ears about your failures as a husband and father, they’ve lived it.

I have to admit Kody has surpassed my expectations - each week he continues to spout off more crap that only increases the worlds (not just Utahs) utter hatred for him. - Kody accusing his teenager of gaslighting him, while in the same episode admitting he’s simply making up stuff to convince Christine she needs to write down he has 50/50 custody of Truly…the child he spends so little time with her mother actually “spiritually divorced” him and nothing changed so she had no idea. - Kody who cannot take a week to move one daughter to college because = Covid, but just weeks prior can go spend a week with friends and strangers unmasked and even in the same vehicle, indoor setting (remember at this same time he couldn’t see his kids because he didn’t like doing it outdoors and couldn’t go inside) - Kody expecting Christine to just hand over the proceeds of the sale of her house to the rest of them, and go off to Utah with no money, in spite of the fact that paying off the property has no benefit to her - Kody who seems offended that his child (whom he seldom sees) isn’t upset her parents are considered divorced, and of course it has nothing to do with any lack on his part…her mother must have poisoned her against him Kody has no one but his own actions and words to blame for the state of his relationships with anyone

I’d say only Christine (who raised Janelles kids). I don’t think Mary instilled anything in her child but a sense of self-importance and entitlement and the ability to be offended by anything and everything…along with the belief that everyone who doesn’t agree with their beliefs is the enemy.

She is 14! Now picture some guy who is 20 and been out of high school for 2 years, in his 2-3rd year of college…”noticing her”. In what world is that not as creepy as heck? For Jill to wax romantic about David being attracted to her at 14 is beyond inappropriate.

What was it with Kody continually says “we live out here” and “we live in this small RV”….there is NO we in him living with Janelle, he shows up with a platonic kiss and whatcha do’in, ignores the sons he told her to toss out and leaves before dinner! I’m pretty sure he hasn’t slept with Janelle since Savannah was born, and she’s okay with that. He’s not on her lease, he doesn’t live there - NO “we” in this scenario at all.

You could see the tripods with all the phones before they started, they each had their phone recording facing them, then production clearly worked it into the show.

Anyone else notice Kody did the exact same twisting of his comments again, Christine asked him “Are we ever going to have an intimate marriage again?” And he shrugged indicating not….then later proclaimed he never SAID they wouldn’t just to attempt to counter her explanation of why she had decided to leave. So she tells him she’s leaving him and taking Truly to live in UT and he needs to just let her go as he doesn’t love her, and he says OK….then later says he never SAID she could move to UT with Truly, he just said OK in response to her saying to let her go! I wanted her to tell him to just stop it. He belief that it’s not HIM she’s leaving, it all rooted in her now no longer believing in polygamy - right Kody, the fact that toy are the worst example of a husband and father, who cares nothing for most of your children or wives, yeah that has zero to do with her decision to walk away.

Actually my daughter had surgery in July and someone said to her that her dad could also come in….I’m a single adoptive parent so that’s not likely lol. It may have happened, just an off hand remark, especially if she mentioned she’s wearing her dads hoodie.

Janelle - That she has accepted the minuscule relationship Kody offers her makes Kody think he’s golden, after all if she’s okay with a sexless marriage where you only see your spouse occasionally, why should the kids care. Well Kody, the kids care because you consider your relationships with your kids based upon how close you are to their mothers…so how you treat her has always affected how you treat them. AND they love their mother and they love Christine, so seeing how you treat both of them, compared to how you treat Robin….you better believe they see you for who you are. They want better for the mother they love and the mother who has raised them. It’s a perfect consequence to all of Kodys selfish behavior for years, to have most of his kids want little to nothing to do with him.

Or a concentration camp survivor…

No she doesn’t….but when she does accept it….TWICE….it’s completely disingenuous to then trot out her lingering trauma (if anyone believes she really cares that Heather repeated what she said) every single time she’s faced with her supervisors confronting her own poor attitude and behavior.