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I mean anything's possible, but they were asked what they were doing. Wild Thing doesn't fit because it isn't a verb.

They way all of them were treated should never be set aside. I'm getting emotional at work just thinking about the courage and resilience that Korey had, each and every time he was faced with the temptation of an admission before the parole board. Deep, deep down in a place I can't imagine, he remembered that when these people tell me "if you just say you're sorry you did it, you can go home" is a muthafuccin lie and he wouldn't do it. He never did. My Lord. All we are is our reputations. All their cases have to be reopened and every professional judgment they've ever made has to be reexamined because they allowed bias to decimate innocent children. They know what they did. Admitting it to us means that have to tell the whole world they knew what they did at the time. It's one thing to know you ain't shit, it's a complete 'nother to say it out loud. Girl. The most terrifying part of this (for me) is that it's still true. I was 21 in 1989, my only child wouldn't be born for 10 more years. The idea that I have to have this discussion with her and she has it with her peers is insane. I haven't asked that she watch this series. But I knew the children were talking about it when I saw a poll on her IG page a few days ago - one of the questions was: the police have the right to come up to you, ask you for i.d. (or anything else) if they suspect you've committed a crime, true or false? 41% of her responding friends got the answer wrong. They said well what about probable cause? At the end of her quiz, I said this is what I want you to say in your answer key. Probable cause must based on evidence, not suspicion. Being Mirandized is not the same as being charged. A traffic violation is a crime, place each of your palms on each of your thighs, don't argue, take the ticket and stfu. The truth is 41% of adults don't know that the question to ask if you're stopped by police is: am I being detained? That's either yes or no. If it's a yes, ask what you're being charged with, ask to speak with your attorney (the constitution doesn't recognize texting lol) and don't say shit else until your lawyer or parents get there. Not even if you have to go to the bathroom. If the answer's no, tell the officer you hope they enjoy the rest of their day and go. about. your. business. That's the basic ass fact I need for all brown children to be taught. Either I am in this moment being charged (not accused, charged) with a crime or I am free to go. Now the little asterisk of oh shit am I in trouble? is you can be held in police custody for a maximum of 48 hours under suspicion of having committed a crime. You still get a phone call and you still ain't gotta say shit. There wasn't even a word called wilding. They were saying "wilin". Wilin out was slang at the time (it may still be if you're an old head) for cuttin(g) up, actin(g) a fool, bugging out. In other words, being teens. I loved the scene where Huffman is demanding that somebody tell her what that means and none of the boys say a word. Right here with you. Please trust and believe if the City of New York gives up $41M, they owe you a number exponentially, impossibly, greater than that. These children were cheated out of so much more than money, but I need for whomever advised them to settle to come to mass and confession too. I could so easily see this being an emotional decision....you've already been through so much, let's just end this here, do you really want to go into another courtroom in your lifetime? This is a guaranteed sum, ya'll know firsthand how the justice system works, we'll roll the dice if you want to but, if this goes to trial.... I HATE this shit for them. Every part of it. Speaking of the justice system. Oprah ran an interview she did with the - their headline name from now on - Exonerated Five - in which Ava is describing the smoke that Fairstein has encountered as a result of the series airing. She says it's really not about her. She's a part of a system that was meant to be this way. It's not broken, it was built to be this way, it was built to oppress, it was built to control and built to shape our culture in a specific way. That's only a snippet of what she has to say about the system but I loved it. It's not broken, it works exactly as the signers of the constitution intended. I'm not used to hearing them speak so I wasn't really ready. Antron McCray is a man of few words, but those few? My God.

Jesus, be a tablespoon of Amoxicilin. This muffucha. Mee-luh? The microwave ain't even in the galley, boo, is that not evident of your understanding? Ya'll just gawn and accept she went to sacre bleu not cordon bleu. you guys? we just haven't properly identified her skill set, has anyone stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, she's a kickass candlestick maker? The childish part of me thinks of this as fucking hilarious. But, it's also kind of a chief earmark of psychopaths. Sooooo, I'm torn. Anybody else hear this in Nancy Grace's voice of umbrage? Just so we're all clear, a woman whom in her lifetime has witnessed: believes it would traumatize her son to see two men kiss? Set her adrift in the tinder, we'll circle back around. Or not.

Hey @Lantern7. I'm sorry it didn't pan out. This is killing my inner nerd, just a little geography nit for anybody unfamiliar. Manhattan island is a mathematical grid. Trump tower is on 5th Ave and 56th Street. The Lincoln Tunnel is actually close to the center of the city, it's behind Times Square, on 8th Avenue and 41st Street. It's also home to an interstate public transportation hub (one of only 3 crossings you can make from Jersey to Manhattan) so it's kind of a quagmire on an ordinary day. Maybe you're thinking of the Holland? that one's lower Manhattan (on Canal Street). Anyhoo, somebody mentioned 45 being in town. If so and her trip coincided and this was her route, sometimes there are street closures that don't clear immediately after he's gone. No criticism for you, as a fellow Northern New Jerseyan, I just wanted to pipe up for this girl because a trip into Manhattan before 8pm is a pain in the ass even when you know where you're going to park and there are no {heavy sigh} heads of state around. I can be a little ocd about vagueness - forgive me for the follow up questions. 1. were you set to throw in the towel because she was late or because you were already thinking it wasn't going to go well? 1a. You said you should've bailed while she was still in NJ. What made you feel that way? 2. "two hours after I figured..." does this refer to a prearranged meeting time or a roundabout approximation of a range like dinner (6-9pm) 3. traffic is to be expected, but 2 hours is unusual - what exactly did she say about what happened? and how did you respond? 4. where'd you guys wind up going and what threw her off about parking (street rules relax at 7pm, no?) please don't hesitate to tell me to smooth piss off because a. this is already over with b. you may not want to discuss any further because of a. and c. it's none of my beeswax anyway. If you're cool with it though, what really interests me is whether or not the conversations had here are any of which you said out loud to your date..? "hey it's awesome that you made it, traffic must've been terrible! this calls for a [whatever she drinks]" "I would've called and asked you if you'd like to do it another time, but I know what it's like once you hit the Turnpike...." "I'm glad you made it, it's great to meet you" Because here's the thing. You provide enough incentive for a young lady (not just this one) to introduce herself, talk to you, make plans and pay a toll lol, and come and sit down across a table from you. Could you be self sabotaging with a conversation you're having before she gets there? a. yes b. no c. maybe so d. mind your business B

big floppy glamorous things = me, all day. Lol. They travel like jerks though. Thanks girl my closest Cracker Barrel is on the PA border, I'm gone bother my friend to go see.

Can you say more words about this? Where'd you get em? what search term do I use? lol, sorry, I keep buying the same 4 straw hats every summer b/c they don't make it back from vacation. Hat boxes - it's a lovely idea but: airline baggage fees. It ain't that serious.

It absolutely does. I think we might be making the same point but in case not, that point was a man who has dedicated his livelihood to service is so much better than being tempted to comment. It's beneath his dignity, Gizelle's not so much lol. Anyway, it doesn't wipe out his life's work for me, it's just that he was willing but more importantly, eager to say something personally unflattering to a woman who (again either he watches the show or listens to his daughter) he knows is still grieving the loss of both her parents and who's supposed to be his daughter's friend. It's not nice, it's not on his level and considering what kind of things have been important to him throughout his life, it's just weird and disappointing. I don't know, I'm nobody's icon and it would just never occur to me to say something snide to the friend of my child, she ain't my peer. Lol, lawd. We weren't complexion shaming. We're Karen-thought bubbling all the immediate ways she could've gotten him together. Honestly, it's not even about his being light skinned, we're talking about the kind of gentleman he brings to mind. Russell Huxtable, Thurgood Marshall, Adam Clayton Powell, Cab Calloway, hell throw in Ceasar Romero and Fernando Lamas, they're all a specific looking type of dude (smooth ass pretty ricky white haired catdaddies lol). It ain't always this deep though girl, damn.

Lol!! Fair enough but he was a spry septuagenarian at the time 😁

I'm only confident in stating this because child support is a federal obligation, so the guidelines don't change state to state (except for Florida, which is its own nation). Support continues for a child who enrolls in a full time undergraduate program until the sooner of the day of graduation from that program or the child's 23rd birthday. Let me put it the way the state does - it automatically discontinues at 18, unless the custodial parent states (and provides evidence) that the child is enrolled in school or has a disability which requires the use of resources for the rest of their lives. All that to say, the only child support has stopped is if Quincy didn't/doesn't go to college. Since it's also a percentage of the non custodial parent's income rather than a flat amount, which means even by the upperest crustiest of standards, 17% of John Pierpont the gagillionth's monthly income is probably still an astronomical sum. Even after this, Sonja raised that kid, I don't see Quincy leaving her adrift with all the cash she's entitled to. Her dad is 90. I say all that to say I think she's definitely depressed but about money? mmmm, Idunnoyouguys. but what would they allege? See in the history of crazy sounding lawsuits, there still has to be a claim when, once heard, makes people go, you know what? that sounds flat the fuck out ridiculous, but it's not untrue. Philip Morris and other tobacco giants lost because - real talk, this shit causes cancer wasn't written on the box. But what are the families of these women supposed to claim, exactly? I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely nosey lol. boy, yall are really trying to make sure I don't run out of statement tshirts this summer huh? I'm not justifying it but but, but..lol would you sit on a 90 year old's face if you weren't trying to kill him?

why are you like this? but real talk? When he popped up, I did think: that's that Adam Clayton Powell tribe though lol. If Karen had said are you coming for me Cab Calloway? I'dve been no damn good.

you know it just occurred to me BBG is about 6 years younger than Gizelle's dad? Chiiiiile. That could've been a whole scene lol.

This is the thing though girl, on the stremf of Theydidsowecan - you got that, it's automatic, all day. But the side of me that remembers that, thinks: you'dn went through everything you went through, so I can have the unmitigated gaul to take my shit for granted - to come outcha mouth with this? You better than that though Mr. Gizelledaddyfirstname ....which is why whatever else Karen does, I tip my sew-in to her. She was hurt, or at least looked like but she was also raised right, because she ain't say nothing to him and she could've respectfully gotten him all the way together.

Right but I think it's because they're dispelling Candace's myth that drinking interferes with getting pregnant. The French might say it doesn't even interfere with being pregnant but that's another story for another day lol. I don't know if she got the chance to voice it b/c I turned the channel for a sec but Candace's point was you told your husband you were gonna cut down on booze because you wanted to demonstrate that becoming and maintaining a pregnancy was important to you. Way to honor your promise gurl. Ashley's comeback was factually accurate but, *ethically* unfair. Nobody's ever gonna argue the sanctity of miscarriage. Ever. We can all take a moment of silence for you and still acknowledge that you're a messy ass hypocrite. Do ya'll think in the moment, she gets flustered or something? In 1997, I took a similar tour with my girls. We were in NOLA. Organizing sightseeing is one of my bff's ju'ghe. She's an alarm clock, itinerary, stick to the schedule, fucking vacation nazi and chief shusher (but I love her for it). So of course we went to (I want to say Lafayette, but I'm not sure, it was about a 2 hour drive from NOLA's garden district). There's one piece of this tour, that like Gizelle's dad pointed out, still has cabins on the grounds. I don't know if they were original or reconstructed but shockingly, we were allowed to go up to the cabins and touch them. No golf carts, this was a walking tour. We walked right up onto the front porch. The guide said I'll take ya'lls picture if you want. I don't know which one of us has it but we're sitting on the bench that's nailed onto the porch and - excuse the dramatic description, but no bullshit - the heaviness, gravity, weight of everything you've imagined but hadn't seen or touched...? Ain't no way I'd make it through a tour of Ghana's Cape Coast. You have to go on a plantation tour if you visit New Orleans. #theydidsowecan Lol is it a little too secret of the travelling pants? I like it, but I'm biased 😉. Slight distinction - a turban is a religious headcovering worn typically by men. This differs a little in that it isn't religious but is symbolic and the ones the RHOS wear tie (with a bottom, top or braided knot). So what I hope they're doing, not just for this trip, but also in deference to it, is paying homage to their roots. African women from many diverse cultures wear headdress for any number of reasons - it's very common at weddings to symbolize celebration - at Nigerian and Ghanaian weddings for example, the female relatives on both sides of the couple's family will be wearing the exact same headress (it's called a gele in Nigerian culture, duku in Ghanaian) to symbolize unity and the sentiment that: (today) we become cut from the same cloth. Isn't that adorable? okay maybe just to me lol! In South African culture, headdress represents celebration, distinction, respect (a Zulu bride covers her head entering the home of her mother in law), position, any number of things. It might be too late not to get off topic here, but it's sort of why the "wear your one piece of African garb" to the premiere of Black Panther was a little off putting to Africans, that traditional garb isn't for a trip to Shoprite, it means something special or specific. Anyhoooo lol, sorry, for the ladies of Potomac and for black women in general, what I hope it symbolizes to them is a way to feel/express a connection to their original heritage. Whoowee, 140 characters ain't it. Ya'll see why I don't have a twitter account? lol!! So I think I might be in the minority on how cute and charming Gizelle's daddy was. Whether he got the information from his daughter or from watching her on the show, this is immature as hell for a man of his age and station. I didn't like it and it diluted whatever respect I had for him. I think she might consider it beneath even addressing, but if Karen ever gets Gizelle together for this, I'm all the way here for it.

I don't think it's the content that's objectionable. Not to speak on anyone else's behalf, I also don't think her right to express it is. This is the problem: part I and: part II the much less flattering adjective I was going to use is privileged. I really doubt that the debate is motherhood can suck. It can. Not does, can. But for a married, well provided for woman with plenty of disposable income, willing and available grandparents to help with childcare, a hands on husband and the option to go to work, to be complaining about how hard this.....? Pardon my french Naomie, but Fuck, no. I need her to try it with 5 out of the above 6 things absent. I believe she was saying the 2 dogs she's got were, initially, his. You guys, what do Shep, Austen and Craig do for a living outside this show? Does anybody think Kathryn and that Rolls are her way of emulating Patricia? I mean they're not typically high mileage cars, it could be after market. Ooooh I kind of want her to paint it the same rusty hot Gingerbread color her hair is. Did she say his name is Joseph but I call him Joe? I hope the children have tutors.

We're in the same neck of the woods, so I'm go need you to slide me those digits. I just had 2 sinus lifts and 3 implants placed (at the dental school b/c who doesn't wanna save 10 grand?) yeah, me apparently. This kid is a skilled almost-oral surgeon but I had to tell him that his nascar pit crew efficiency though, appreciated, was giving me a nervous condition and that the tiny little holes on the side of my lips are known as tears. Official medical term for you're too fucking rough doc. Ya'll aren't actually dentist phobic, you're pain and noise phobic. Respect. That's serious shit. This dude legit said "you'll feel a little pinch" before sticking a needle into my gums and then used a mini rubber mallet on my teeth yesterday. {{picket sign chant}}: pri-vate prac-tice! pri-vate prac-tice! Awww shit, I shouldn'tve come in here right after lunch!!

One of Ramona's problems, and dear God, there are many from which to choose, is she's a couple of beats late. Reactions, comebacks, quips and my personal fave, her portmanteaux - all of it, just late as fuck. My friend is about 5 people in on the liver transplant list, let's go out on the town and push her to the top so she gets priority. But then every once in a while, her timing and delivery looks like this......... and I think to myself, self, that was loaded and in the chamber. This bish is only playing stupid. Lol!!! this is quite possibly the cutest babyism ever written Brilliance. Listen, if we thought that Sonja had not had an episode that invoked substances, including, but not limited to, alcohol, we would have so stated. It was funny, until it wasn't. So you can say Taj and Raj, but not "Paige" with a T? Even knowing that she is affected by something is it the height of shitivity to have wanted Tej to have been present to watch Sonja rappel her ass onto the floor in a pool of humiliation? You guys are we sure she wasn't going for, like a circa 1981 Crush Groove spinout and just wound up fucking up the dismount? Here's more shitivity in case I didn't reach it with that last climb: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH......RINDA! Ya'll? I fucking snorted! I've legit been sitting here trying to figure out what she's depressed about. I mean he was 77 - let it steep - Seventy muffucin SEVEN - when they divorced. Is she really beat about this marriage being over to this extent. He's NINETY now. Ya'll this man was alive during the Industrial Revolution. Ok, so maybe the real gag is you were never a gottdam sex kitten. Maybe to a man who was 65, a 31 year old floozy ass acting interested in him was enough. But now you're 55 and the mom of a nearly-adult. You still like to strip and drink and wrap thongs you never use around some poor unsuspecting bastard's head. What's stopping you boo? Aviva-daddy is single, it wouldn't be a long stint. other guy = Rocco. He seemed to genuinely like/love/tolerate everything about her. She said he understood that they weren't exclusive but I don't think he truly knew what that meant and looked like until he saw the footage. If you're not exclusive there's no need to lie and there were clearly bits of information she was omitting. Lol!! It couldn't be MAFS (1) that's A&E (2) some of them kids are still malleable and (3) once Dr. Schwartz introduced herself, they'd never get past the pilot. Those experts will happily match a gay/hetero couple and not say shit, but a May-December, like December fucking 32nd? lmao!! Girl not a chance. "I'm here to talk, not to listen"

I'm gonna vote no. I mean by contrast it's more rural but I don't think people see that as negative. At least I hope they don't. The thing about Manhattan and Manhattanites is it's a clique, whose primary question if it had one is: I mean if you can afford it, why would you ever want to live anywhere else? I mean there are some pretty rational responses to this lol but every single one of them excludes you from the (cache/trendiness/convenience?) acquired from living in Manhattan. You can't even live in another part of NYC and be considered a club member lol. John, Dorinda's boyfriend, is an example. Maybe not a good one, because he is kind of a bull in a china shop but living in Queens, makes him nearly a pariah. Sorry to ramble, culturally, I think there's a certain segment of Manhattanites who see it as unsophisticated. I'm laughing at 1-2 blocks away - real shit, in one of the earlier seasons when the Vanderkamps (is this their name?) moved to Brooklyn, the funniest part was watching the other HWs react. What?? I'm not going to Brooklyn. Meanwhile @HaaCHOO, I work as far south in Manhattan as you can get. Brooklyn is one stop/2.5 minutes away.

I was all wrapped up in this iron throne mess. I saw on the news there's a support group on line for people who wanna complain or just need to "unpack" their issues. Muffucah, what? But a lunch lady got fired last month for giving a child free food and he paid her back the next day. you climb up here and we both goin down. How ya inshooonce? Man I ain't even cover Michael. Is we still trying to figure out this man's sexuality? It's all of the above, shit, let him be fluid in peace. If Ashley like it, I love it. She just needed to stay long enough to see what this big ole water head baby look like and then carry on. That pre/post nup is iron clad as hell......until child support lol!!! Gizelle being on her better bitch grind means she think she gotta lie to Katie about this Fiddler on the Roof ass outfit. Girl? these 12 steps mean tell a bish the truth! Peasant chic is for the runway, lee that there. Ya'll when Karen said Ray was two years younger than her mama? I near bout leant over. I knew there was a gap and at their current ages it probably makes virtually no difference at all. But dag fam, in my mind, I don't think I could marry a dude age compatible with my parents. The mental hurdles necessary in the bedroom? Speaking of hurdles. Robyn and Juan. Just say no to a lifetime of fuckboism. It's ok boo, you're already single-single.

{{raises hand}} same feeling It was funny, then I was like, deadass this dude sounds sinister. my "he's controlling" assessments take a little longer to kick in than I'd care to admit. I'm usually like aww, naw, that guy's just protective or he doesn't want her to get hurt or some other chivalrous thing. It's gone sound crazy that I still don't know whether I see this as controlling or him telling her what he's not gone do. but maaaaan, when he got here.....? I thought: mkay, this is officially icky. I don't know how Monique naturally laughs off what would spark an immediate damn showdown for me. There'd have to be so much more of that conversation I'm missing not to give Chris the sideye from here on in. Like some more background about their premarital talks including wanting a tribe of kids, so now he feels cheated. Even then, the fact that he wasn't trying to take in what she said? Naw fam. Sometimes when you have help, ONE, can be enough, depending on your baby. 3 is cool. But if the only person responsible for gestation and everyday hands on care says this right here is what I can manage, then we pretty close to done with the conversation. He can also miss me with I ain't snipping shit. I can put these scissors on the stove right quick. See a urologist or don't go to sleep. It never could've mattered what Sherman looked like. Age similar, black, wealthy, single, the guy's a unicorn. Love is the icing. She's coming up the rough side of the mountain and has 3 kids. None of which is disadvantageous to me, but the men she's attracted to have enough cash and ego to be out here with a childless, unencumbered woman 1/2 her age without even having to consider judgement or stigma and without having to deal with any uncomfortable and inconvenient headaches like scrutiny. Available bachelors in the DMV. Ah, it's tough everywhere but the thing is she can do bad all by herself ™Tyler Perry. Their income bracket set up is gone all the way affect eligibility. Remember when Ray pulled her to the side and told her she wasn't getting any younger? That hurt my whole soul, but he didn't lie. That clip of them on the picnic is #antiswoon I meannnnn, we got White House party crashers FFS!

Beth sold the liquor distribution rights, right? OMG and the Sweet Baby Jesus, please let one of her reps be reading these boards. If she partnered with another booze company just to come up with a premixed bottle of something called Jose Cuervos Roundhouse Punch AND Lu got zero credit? LMAO!!!

Sittin on the cock of the bay..... Damn you @Cherrio

when she was cool, not like all.......uncool I mean unless the statement is you can find this in the 2 for $12 section at Rainbow, it looks as though they've become so far out of her own aesthetic as to not make sense. Like before she knew we were paying attention to them, they were beautiful. Turquoise is nice, in doses but at least they were pretty and interesting. Then somebody said the words Native American to her and it all went left. I don't think we even get real gems anymore, it's just a bunch of moissanite crystalettes surrounding some weird fauxpaz center stone. The next level is gonna be macaroni art, I swear.

I love that you began with I want to like Dorinda. I mean if you have to even decide whether or not you like somebody lol! See this is how I feel about Tinsley but for no real legitimate reason. She's perfectly sweet and doesn't seem to have a mean spirited bone in her body. And I do appreciate a girl who can come up with an addenda to a drinking game. I don't dislike her. It's just that whenever she's talking I find I've been looking at the teevee like: somebody jump in, is it the arrested development thing? Don't get me wrong when Dorinda, Ramona, Luann, Sonja and Bethenney say something crazy I just shrug because I think yeah she was overdue. Allat what you said about motherhood? Respect. I don't think anybody needs to go that deep with Tins though. Soon as they tell her babies get too big to put in your purse, it's finna be a wrap. Seriously? It's a pretty decent way to subliminally get your family to finish the leftovers. I would totally buy this. Judge ya mama.

Tuh! I put that fool several layers outside my head. I'm sorry @Dance4Life you right girl!! This makes that accusation even funnier to me now though.

Lol!! Harry? Sonja's man. A a confirmed and aging bachelor/whooer who hasn't had and doesn't want one wife? She's a certified snake in the grass and/or has a rather adept talent for redirecting men who think they're on dates with other women, but shit, they all seemed to go of their own volition.