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Of course. And if Gretchen had chosen to do that, it would be understandable. But she didn't. She saw his text he was back (and alive), screwed another guy, drove to Jimmy's home and shouted in his face, drove off, listened to his apology outside her place and said "OK," left without further comment, then came back out and purposely messed with him before heading off on another rampage with Lindsay. What is Jimmy to make of that? Either she's crazy (my viewpoint), or she's so angry that she's destructive, in which case Jimmy should run far away. Either way, Jimmy is right to be cautious and understandably confused. Don't get me wrong - what he did was beyond the pale and he must own it and his behavior. I don't excuse his action. I'm just pointing out that he came back, thought about how to reach out and then apologized. That seems like a good first step, as opposed to what Gretchen is doing, which is scorched earth.

Because pompous, self-centered people who think highly of themselves always come back.. If they don't, then it can't be about them. You can't build up a character based on these traits, and then assume they would act the opposite of those traits. Gretchen's behaviors might have led her to an accidental death or a suicide. Not Jimmy's. And if Gretchen believed he were dead, or never coming back, then she didn't know Jimmy. In a world where people their ages find each other, hook up and communicate all by text, the fact it was a text wasn't unusual at all. And the fact it was "generic" was his attempt, a thoughtful one actually given how self-centered Jimmy is, to recognize what he did would have affected Gretchen, and he didn't want to act like it was no big deal. Texting, "I'm back!" would have been thoughtless. "Hey ..." was a tentative attempt to reach out to someone who Jimmy knew was as likely to burn down his house as be glad he was alive. BTW, if she did care about him, and did think he could be dead as you noted, I would think one of her reactions (maybe the main one?) would be that she was glad he was alive and reaching out. But she was more interested in "making him pay!" then anything normal.

And this is where I can't get on board. What he did was, after finally getting to a place where he could ask someone to marry him, was get a yes from Gretchen, and then run away and disappear for 3 months. Apparently leaving his house and most possessions behind, evidence that he would be back ... eventually. Leaving aside the fact that anyone who proposed to that mess would have second thoughts, Jimmy is clearly damaged and it's not a surprise that he would then run away after finally expressing a desire for commitment. The fact he disappears is further proof (vs. plays games via phone, etc.). He isn't well and needs help, but at least he doesn't jerk people back and forth every 20 minutes. If I were Gretchen, and I actually loved Jimmy, I would be more interested in talking and understanding why he left (and where the hell he was) then immediately ramping it up to even worse levels. Exactly. He's an insecure twit who needs to justify his insecurity, and he couldn't just apologize and leave it at that. Gretchen didn't help by saying "OK" and then leaving behind a gate, vs. giving some idea of what's next ("we can talk later," or 'I'll think about it," or something). Which is consistent, I guess, with her inability to talk to Jimmy about her depression a season or two ago, and instead to lock him out and then blame him when he fumblingly tried to help. In other words, Jimmy has big flaws, and yet underneath there is a clear indication that he is trying, and trying to get to the right place even as he takes steps backward. Gretchen lashes out at almost everything, and you never know really whether she intends anything except destruction. You can believe in Jimmy, even as he flakes out. With Gretchen, even if she finally did say she would marry Jimmy, there is also an expectation that her yes comes with a lot of strings, and I don't know if Jimmy can quite get there. I get that the show is called, "You're the Worst," and that these two people (and their roommates) are not supposed to come across as well adjusted. I'd choose good-hearted but pompous Jimmy and his disappearing act as a friend long before drug using, lashing out, crappy decision-making Gretchen.

Enh, I forgot how much this show maddens me. I was reminded when Ty's friend, whose name I didn't catch, seemed so normal and well adjusted in his interactions with crazy Gretchen ... until he banged her. Meanwhile, IMO Jimmy has grown significantly and his apology was sincere, and Gretchen, who knew he was back and looking for her first banged that guy (so she is moving on?) and THEN went to see Jimmy and yell in his face (OK, so she wants to confront him?) and THEN she runs off back to her shared apartment and THEN listens to him long enough to hear his apology and says OK and THEN she just leaves and THEN she comes back because he says family and THEN she takes the time to fake acting understanding just so she can then hurt Jimmy. She is exhausting. He isn't perfect at all, has limitations and she knows it, however ... I guarantee you if Gretchen had run off and then come back and said "family" freaked her out and her dad had died, etc., she would totally expect Jimmy to not only understand that but to kiss her feet for deigning to return.

This was my post a month ago, that perhaps the show is going to give us a different narrator each season and we learn through that person's eyes. But the show isn't treating Agent Foster the same way as Ozzie (she's still a side character to the Starcrossers), so I'm not sure that's the intention after all.

Or would have been, if there was anything remotely imaginable as racist in the drawing. It was just two grays standing there. That was a miss for me Don's word choice in the Alien Autopsy table was odd, too. It was a "disaster?" How about " table of horrors? " The show is struggling without Ozzie. The other stories aren't very interesting on their own.

The best part of that episode was the little scenes with the staff at the yoga studio. "Namaste!" Spencer is a tool.

Exactly. For me, it gets old when they over react.

The show was done well, I just struggle with the over reactions to everything that Jimmy and Gretchen have. People do get turned down when they propose. They usually don't then go on drug binges or run away and live in a trailer in a seniors community. Having them come back from something they caused themselves fekt like spinning our wheels. I did like the people Jimmy met at the seniors park and their interaction.

Really liked the sequence at the end, where we saw various characters' stories moving forward through their actions. Though I don't know what is happening to this happy, little show... the execution of the assassin was serious stuff, with barely a dark laugh (maybe from his commentary about aliens going soft, and then Blam!). I wonder at what point the vast alien bureaucracy takes serious notice of all these shenanigans on Earth?

Why did Judy die because Laura "woke up" and realized her past? At this point it seems like Judy has the upper hand. Are you saying Laura's scream can kill the source of evil? I guess if we have a green-gloved, super punch dude, it's possible.

I didn't mean to say I found it stupid. I just couldn't see anything in the season (or past seasons) that provided any reason for this to be the answer. It would have made more sense to me if Gordon's hearing aids killed Bob - at least they had a longer backstory! I don't need a show to be logical in the sense of the real world. I just like it when pieces fit together. TPs:TR had both types of development. It feels like it could have been an incredible piece of art if some of the random stuff made more sense within the show's world, instead of like a dog walked by and jostled the artist's hand while painting. The sheer fact that there is so much to talk about with this show is wonderful. That's my kind of show. Did others feel happy or sad about what the last episode indicated? I wonder if it's just me that feels like the show is telling Cooper he can't change the future (by messing with the past).

I suppose. My question is, why? Why this English guy, why a spring loaded punch, why can uber evil be killed by a punch? It brought together a few story elements, but I don't see any coherent reason for any of it aside from DL says so. This was one of my biggest, "Wait - what?" moments of many for this show and this ep. In my struggle to come up with a larger narrative, this is about where I landed. Not unlike Battlestar Galactica, "this has happened before, and it will happen again." No matter what Good Coop does, events end up the same in terms of big pieces (individuals and actions may vary). So I think I'm sad at the end of this season. Not sure, totally.

Clearly, that became visible after they killed him tho. From a story POV, it doesn't make sense that he stay dead. Though it's a matter of time before the aliens we knows and the humans join against the invasion. Not sure which side Eric will be on. Also, a shout out to the show for featuring regular looking people. It would have sucked eggs if it had been teens and 20 somethings from magazines. You need people with life experience to carry this story.

This show has begun to piss me off, and I suspect it's because it is self-limited by its relationship with the NFL to tell crappy stories. Oh look, after Spencer barely keeps his license, his risky foray is ... to bring an NFL franchise to Las Vegas, just like what happened in real life. Yawn. Charles has to fire Siefert ... and does it on the practice field, in front of all the players? Is Charles an idiot? Do they not have an HR intern who could give them the basics? Ricky threw away any integrity the character has built during the show's run. The brothers thing was just stupid. No one who acts like that can succeed at that level. The only interesting part was the CEO saying that working with players must be tedious, and Spencer wants to move on and up. If this show gave us a Spencer who thought at all that way, it would be a great way to show character growth. But we never see it. What is the point of this show? I feel like I'm being taken for a ride. Also, and this may not be popular, I think having The Rock be the lead character was a bad choice. Not because of his acting. It's his body. He's too freaking big, bigger than the players. He's too much and should look more like a retired player... a little soft around the middle, a little out of shape. When he is on the screen it's like a bodybuilder is walking around, preening and showing off his contrasting pearly whites.

Ozzie can't stay dead. The rest of the cast can't carry the show, because Ozzie was our guide through the narrative. He led us to Beacon, to Star Crossed, to the church and to the aliens. The only way this might work if Ozzie is dead is if the narrative shifts, and we now have a new guide for a season (or some length). Agent Foster could do that, as we experience when she sees and learns. And maybe one of the aliens could serve the same purpose. But IMO none of the rest of the cast could. Finding out what's going on for Father Oscar might be interesting to a few, but not many. Same for our reborn therapist, and the rest of the gang. t would be an interesting approach, to see the store as it goes forward through different characters, but too brave for a new show. BTW, I'm not talking about seeing the same events through different eyes. I mean the whole story continues forward, and we just accompany a new central guide.

To be fair, the dude is surfing randomly through time -- I think he has to focus on something to actually see it. Once Sam says "hey, can you see that?!", he looks for it. The way I see (hah - see what I did there?) his character is completely unmoored from his 'real' time unless someone firmly anchors him in it. And also....he knows they have a dragon now, right? Wasn't that last scene of Bran plugged into the weirwoodwebs meant to indicate he sees Viserion Ice? Fire Dragon, fire magic (from south of the Wall), turns into Ice Dragon, ice magic, big and bad enough to counter the magic of the Wall, or at least that's what I guessed. All possible and reasonable, to be sure. My issue is, we shouldn't have to wank that hard to make it fit. This isn't David Lynch! Yet. I don't think it had to be that complicated. Jon could agree to stand down until the white walker threat is dealt with and no longer, and Dany could have allowed him to agree to it with a nod of her head. Coming in late and half-assed here, but ... it might mean that, while you don't think there is anything wrong with what you are doing, you know society would look down on it and you would pay a price. That's sociopathic but certainly possible and IRL lots of people do it. about various personal activities.

GoT has gone all TV wonky now, with emotional payoffs that don't quite make sense. The largest being Bran's selectively used powers. if Bran was able to see all the details around LF, why not have him see Cersei's true plan, or what the Night Army is up to ("they have a dragon!), or geez, the future? And yet he could see all Sansa and Arya described, but not Jon's heritage? For a guy who sits around being mystical, he doesn't see as much as you would think. I wonder if marching all the way around the end of the wall was a longer trip for the white walkers. than just taking it down wherever, now that they have a dragon. Maybe their navigation is faulty. "Recalculating ..." BTW, wasn't the wall strong not only because of its size, but because it was bound with magic? What happened to the magic? As for Jon's big ethical dilemma, wouldn't that have been solved by Dany simply asking him to do what Cersei had asked? if the issue was that he already had a queen, wouldn't that have fixed it and avoided the drama? Where is Jaime going? Shouldn't he send a raven to Dany/Jon with the truth of Cersei's deception? Also, I cannot believe Tyrion doesn't see through it. Also, it would have been way better for Jorah to have walked in for the sex than Tyrion. Unless the point is that everyone loves Dany, and everyone wants to LOVE Dany. Which seems like an odd thing to emphasize.

Defenders suffered from a vague, fantastical, mostly boring villain, and villain plot. Aside from a few vague references to New York "falling" (and really to much of the rest of the country, is that such a bad thing?), The Hand was mostly digging under a building - and the only way they get what they want is if Danny goes down there. So the most effective strategy would be ... to ignore them? This was a major misstep by the writers, and gave the good guys almost nothing to play off. This left the only interest part of Defenders being how they meet each other and interact. That part was good.

Exactly. So this very powerful organization has determined there is only *one* source of immortality juice in the world, (assumption), and it is critical to their continued immortality, and so they have ... taken their time gathering it, risking their untimely deaths in the meantime? And they have done so by all going to the same place, risking their entire leadership? What have they been using until now as the source of immortality, and where did that supply come from? If Dragons are the source, shouldn't they have 10,000 digs going on around the world, looking for them? Or efforts to synthasize it? Seems like this is a pretty singular focus for such a long-lived and powerful organization. As Spock said of Khan, and apparently The Hand, "He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking.."

I watched the first 9 episodes and lost interest. Can't say exactly why. After 6-8 months and watching The Defenders, I went back and watched the last few eps. Loved the villain. Way better than The Hand. More real and relatable. She was the star of The Defenders. Would like a second season of JJ.

Ultima Online? Unexplained Orifice? Drawing a blank here. If the meaning is like YMMV (your mileage may vary), I would get it. Otherwise, and YMMV, I think The Hand was the weakest part of the entire season. Basically a bunch of near immortal crime lords who were mining for a substance to keep them immortal. And some vague references to how either the mining, or their action, would cause NY to fall. Why exactly was unclear. And their overall purpose was to ... ensure their immortality? That's less of an inconvenience to your average New Yorker than a closed lane in the Lincoln Tunnel. And of course they were foiled by , well, I couldn't say it better than this post: Bringing together the team was the most enjoyable part for me, as well as the more realistic ways their lives/neighborhoods intersected. though it's hard to believe that they wouldn't already know more about each other (except maybe Danny) than they did. if they had been battling something worthwhile it might have pulled together nicely. Maybe next season. I actually didn't mind the music, but yeah, I never knew who was fighting who. And mostly I didn't care, as fight scenes are like car chases or zombie guts - part of the genre, but they impart virtually nothing. I mostly wait patiently for them to be over. The one exception was in the DD series, where the way he fights is tied directly to his will, a major character trait. And in IF, the effortless way Danny fought was intriguing, but that was soon lost to "I AM THE IRON FIST."

That's true, but also the other fingers seemed to view her as a leader they must obey (and she treated them as such). Maybe I inferred they feared her, when all she really had were connections. I kind of like the idea of her character basically being bored all day when she wasn't setting up meetings, because her whole role was to make connections and "look official." She didn't have any skills in particular. That would explain the long meals and musical interludes, at least.

Exactly. One of our heroes will be special, and go after the NK. Maybe Sam. If the whole Arya vs. Sansa thing isn't a set up of Littlefinger by one or both of the sisters, I'm going to be disappointed. The only other logical option is that Arya is essentially insane after all she has been through, which has been my theory so far. I'm still hoping for a sisters team up for the win.

Yes, please. His approach, at least for half that season, of also making Hell's Kitchen a better place, but using very different methods than DD, was the best part of DD so far. It created complexity and a villain who you could at least understand. The Hand is ridiculous. I can't believe the actors don't laugh every time they say it. I wondered if Sig Weaver's character was an attempt to marry the two - Fisk and The Hand - but it didn't work. I still don't know why she was in charge, or what the threat from her was. You could have deleted her character entirely and had Elektra kill Gao and it wouldn't have changed a thing. I totally agree that having cops chase the good guys is tedious. I do see why they wouldn't quite trust them all, yet. They are still learning about these odd heroes, and bodies (and buildings) drop when they are around. But it's got to stop.