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If this wasn't the last season, I would stop watching. Don't need the torture porn. Not interested in Elliott's continued self discovery. Sort of curious about interesting visuals and filmography, but that's not enough to hold my interest. What happened to this show. It only became interesting when Deegan talked to Janice.
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So thIs was basically an origin story of a hooded character that lives on through new people? Places in the context of this world.
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S45.E07: Will Ferrell/King Princess
Ottis replied to Princess Sparkle's topic in Saturday Night Live
I think it’s probably time for the cold open to be about something other than Trump. Last week was a detailed and unfunny mess, this week was just a mess. I don’t think I laughed until Chippy. Too bad that didn’t go anywhere. It has a great start. Wait - I did laugh at the line about the Mayor Pete dance and trying for a negative black vote. On the plus side, the only bit I fast forwarded through was the pizza skit. -
“I try to leave her but she just palms my head and I run in place.” That was the only thing I laughed at. Cam has always been pretty awful. It’s not cute. I didn’t get the whole deal with hurting the boyfriends. That’s not cool.
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They broke up... and then he saw her in the laundromat and they were back together. So I don’t know whether they are done or on a break or what. Not that it matters, really.
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It felt like this season ended with a whimper. There was a lot of build up, and then meh.... they arrested a guy and people still wanted to blame the Klan. Personally I also feel he did it.... carpet plus dog hair plus behavior plus circumstantial... and the killings fitting the same MO stopped (and while more kids have died, if there was any reason at all to suspect a serial killer people would have been on it). I don’t know what the hell Wendy’s story has to do with anything. It’s kind of annoying. Brian’s story at least allows us to think about things like whether and people are born that way. I like those parallels. Tench has the patience of a Saint with his wife. So she left him? Or just found a new house? i really enjoyed the season. Hope the show continues.
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Unlike Vera’s henchmen, I was more than happy to leave the room before it ended. So I emptied the dishwasher and cleaned up the kitchen while the ep played. I likes that we returned to Mr Robot and his existence, where we began. I didn’t like that the big answer was something we already knew, or logically suspected, as viewers. I was hoping for something more surprising. It’s not like we couldn’t tell that Elliot and his sister were damaged. The juxtaposition of the Christmas decorations and the dramatic story was interesting visually. And Vera’s ability to talk to Elliott, and see and share his pain was pretty amazing and unexpected. Unless he is another personality of Elliott’s. So now can we get back to the plot and happens to all these people?
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Gregg ... the snitch they are ostracising? Your take is interesting. Gregg barely exists for me, and I keep wondering why Gunn doesn't transfer him (I thought he was going to do that in the ep where Gunn agrees the basement is crowded, but instead he gave them more space). Trench is indeed an interesting character. But in terms of the point of the show, Holden is the origin of the behavioral science approach and also the reason Trench, and anyone else, evolves. Lately Holden's wonder-boy status has been taking some hits, and it feels a little bit by design by the show to ensure that the other characters aren't left behind. That, and I keep expecting to see more evidence that Holden is so good because he is much like his serial killer subjects. I struggle with the evolution of the process because they seem to take a while to arrive at things that are obvious today. The show is of a time, I get it. But completely outside of law enforcement work, who among us hasn't wondered at the behavior of an odd individual by asking what their home life is like, what kind of family they came from and what they get from acting that way? One of my biggest surprises in this series is how clueless cops seemed to be about that line of thought, as depicted on the show.
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I don’t know why it took her doing an interview to get that her strictly scripted approach wouldn’t always work. She could hear it in the earlier tapes, just as we saw it. Maybe the first time she would be stubborn, or the second. But not longer than that, or as long as she was. Tench is the transitional character, able to live in both worlds as things change around him. He provides a rock for viewers, but he isn’t the reason we’re here. I find Holden more interesting and wonder every episode if this is the one where we will see him take a step down the line to being more like the people he profiles. I can take or leave Wendy and Gregg.
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I assume the Brian story is going to lead to some revelation, but I find it uninteresting and it kills the momentum of the show for me. Same with Wendy and her romance. We haven’t seen Holden’s girlfriend in a number if episodes, and I haven’t missed her. And Nancy is super annoying. The money strings guy, Wallace?, reminds me of how much women have to deal with and it sucks. What an ass. In whatever year.
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Is he possessive? He's a guy who is gone all the time, with an attractive girlfriend who has what appears to be an attractive fellow student as a "partner" (a word which has a different meaning to Holden, in law enforcement lingo), who doesn't call Holden for help when she needs it and when he goes to see his girlfriend finds them touching each other in the dark of whatever that place was. I'm not sure he shouldn't be concerned. That said, I don't know why he *went back to her.* He clearly has issues relating to other people, and especially the few women we've seen. Going back feels like he is becoming a hunter, like his serial killer subjects. I'm actually surprised Holden and Trench have SOs. Their jobs and schedule and subject matter must be hugely destructive to having a meaningful relationship. This is why I find him intriguing as well. You don't have to believe in or support some ideas in order to enable them or see if they work. That used to be a fairly typical approach for reasonable people, which we seem to have fewer and fewer of today. I thought overall the first 3-4 eps were strong. I started to lose interest with the guy, his brother and the enabling sister killing the poor blonde. That seemed more predictable than a surprise. And the principal thing was hard to view through their time, knowing that today that dude would have been fired. I would prefer more focus on serial killers, key learnings that apply to the general populace and then how they actually helped the FBI solve tough cases. Also, I assume what we see is true, but I had no idea cops in the 60s and 70s were so closed minded to behavior profiling. It seems like an obvious step to take. Civilians do it all the time, trying to understand why people behave the way they do.
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Wow, that cold open was the biggest bomb I have seen on SNL in years. Barely chuckles from the audience. They picked the wrong format. Soap operas are 20 years ago. They should have done a version of Big Brother or one of the newer “reality” shows. Or if they were going to do a soap opera, go 100 percent and do The Californians. Harry Styles should smile more. Thanks for telling me who you are. I vaguely knew the name but couldn’t place it. The cocaine line was pretty good. Intern Rob would fit in nicely on The Monkeys. And White Get Out was a puzzle until the end reveal. The audience didn’t seem to know what to do with it. My dog is my boyfriend. OK. Aren’t people like that character usually cat people? Childbirth instructors talk to the dads? That’s new! Airplane pilots.... OK, I think this ep is just off. What was the set up? Two idiot pilots? Skits work best when they have some sort of tie to reality. Haha. The drug dealer skit was good. “Quan, you know what you doing?” Ok, that was good. Should have escalated at the end though. WU... split screen of Colin and Steven Miller, heh. Kate’s ability to be Jeff Sessions is amazing. I kept looking at her face during the close ups, wondering how she did it and trying to see Kate behind Sessions. The milk headlines were fun, props to WU for paying attention to that story. ”We think it would be better if Sara Lee stopped having threesomes.” ACTUAL stage shows like this Baby Faye thing are grating. A mock show is... still grating. Finally had to fast forward. I hope when I am 89 I have friends like Marcus and Luke.
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S01.E04: If You Don’t Like My Story, Write Your Own
Ottis replied to formerlyfreedom's topic in Watchmen [V]
I echo that this show is nuts. It frustrates my brain, though, which keeps trying to make sense of it all. I don’t know why some characters have costumes, and/or are heroes, and others don’t. It all seems so random. Why did Ozy throw some babies back? -
Education was clearly not the show’s point. When it happened, first the show had the daughter not want to eat ice cream, then DJ take his daughter home, as I’d she had been insulted. That was about assuming a slight. If DJ and his daughter had firmly but pleasantly made the point that he was her dad, and treated it like it as it appeared to be (a woman who assumed adoption, because there are a lot of mixed race adoptions, including Asian kids as well), or heck, even shrugged and said “whatever,” then no one’s day had to be ruined and life could have gone on. Lots of things happen that are annoying. People assume all kinds of stuff. But if it clearly wasn’t intended as a slight, why allow it to become one? Some people don’t think the same way and others don’t get it. Why let them affect me? One of the first lessons we taught our kids was, “Everyone is different, and differences are OK.” That has come in handy many, many times. And it can cover all sorts of things, including older people who think in outmoded ways, if all they are doing is making an incorrect assumption while also telling me how great it is that we did something, even if they are incorrect.
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This episode just pissed me off. We had to wait for-ever for Big Bird and his long story about the bat to get to... Mr Robot, with which we are already familiar. Meanwhile, we had to wait for Elliott to get his new girlfriend to make a call. That was exciting. And then finally, we had to wait for Dom and Darlene to come up with a plan for the taxidermist, which was underwhelming. I suppose the drama and tension were supposed to mean something. What it meant for me was I simultaneously watched a football game on my phone. I don’t think I missed anything. The only thing of interest was White Rose saying he and Elliott are on the same side.
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This was the first episode since Roseanne left where no one in the family was an idiot and everyone acted or reacted in a more or less normal manner to realistic things that happen. I enjoyed it. They had to bring back the Lunch Box. There have been no plots with hope or any sort of intelligence from the family. Trying to restart a business where they can all help finally gives us something to work with. Well, I did find the bit about DJ and his daughter a bit overwrought. People assume things all the time. Look old for your age? They may think your dad is your husband. This clearly closed minded woman didn’t consider mixed race relationships before she thought of adoptions. It doesn’t mean any slight was intended. It may have been, or may not have been. It was a moment for education, not embarrassment or anger.
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I find it interesting that the family that has been up in each other’s business their entire lives now seems positioned to move in different directions. Mitch and Cam can go become a farmily, maybe if we’re lucky wolves eat Haley, Dylan and the kids in Yosemite, Luke becomes an entrepreneur and is on the road and Alex graduates and moves away. Even Claire may move to a new life away from the business her dad built. If the final lesson is that a family can be close even if they go in different directions, it will be a TV show win for me in my long running debate with my wife over her scarily emeshed family. I wanted to like the mascot bit, but I didn’t think the dolphin’s antics were funny. They could have done something more clever there. Also, what does it say that the student mascot is more articulate and thoughtful than any of the characters on this show? I think the show’s point was the same as yours. Even Jay, who usually ignores silly family stuff, was appalled enough to tell Gloria she was wrong.
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Hey, genius brothers. When your pop makes it clear he is going to do something drastic regarding the killer of his wife, you might want to mention to him that you just used your most vital secret stuff to free him from Potter. That might help your pop make a different decision. So EZ, like Jax, moves to the dark side, despite the best hopes of everyone. How do they know that vengeful Dita doesn't have someone taking photos? I guess it doesn't matter given they literally don't cover their tracks. I kept waiting for the secret Bishop retaliation vs. the Vatos leader. First I thought it would happen at the meet at grandmas, then after it, and then finally it happened at the birthday party. That was cold with all the innocents there.
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That was super boring. Watch people type code while a security guard makes his rounds, suspicious. Snore. Then watch Elliot run down stairs and out the front door. I’m not sure a hacker would be in that kind of shape. Or the cops, for that matter. Good thing only two cops bothered to chase him. Meanwhile, Darlene... goes out a different exit! Disguised... in a new jacket! And a bottle of water! She wants to save the world but doesn’t seem too concerned about using plastic bottles. Fortunately she has time to sit in her car right outside the crime scene. So that was a filler episode I guess. In the last season? Ugh.
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Arrested Development - General Discussion
Ottis replied to JayInChicago's topic in Arrested Development
I actually liked the British concept of what Americans ate, in Britain Town. The donuts and giant container of Coke as the table bread always cracks me up. There is definitely a joy in the first three seasons that is lacking in later seasons. And honestly, what should we have expected? AD was ahead of its time, and had been gone for 10+ years. It’s hard to recapture the magic. i enjoyed having the opportunity to visit the same works again. It wasn’t as good, sometimes was bad, but I got to see it. There is a BBC show called W1A that reminds me a lot of AD, but in an understated British way. -
Thank you, but I was hoping for something a bit more linear. I don't know anything about this world ... why Nixon and Redford apparently were (are?) admired US presidents, why there looked like about 6o stars on the flag, why an anti-police organization gathered enough power to openly attack cops so that cops wear masks to hide their identities (and is this only in Tulsa, or everywhere?), etc. Also, I'm not sure if this is backstory or this is purely within this TV show's universe, but why don't the FBI agents wear masks? And why is Ozy, the smartest man in the universe, unable to achieve whatever his experiments are designed to achieve (escape from the estate? who is the warden, and why is Ozy there?). And why is the FBI agent's blue dildo that size - is it shorthand for her being a ballbuster? I did see the 2009 movies, so I have a little background around the original "heroes." Have we seen them all now (who is the owl character?)? What does the woman hunting them do with them? Is she hunting them because she is mad at Doc for leaving her? Or is this yet another argument (already seen in Avengers: Civil War and Batman Vs. Superman) of whether superheroes (sometimes called vigilantes) should be allowed to exist? It's hard to tell what is new in the show and what already existed. I looked at sites about the franchise, but I'm not sure how they relate to the show or if the info is treated consistently. Aw, maybe I'll just shut up and puzzle it out. It's intriguing for sure.
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Is there a concise summary of this universe without s poilers? I don't know it and while I'm guessing ok it might be fruitful to know more background without spoilers. Thanks for any guidance!
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I don’t pay much attention to politics, so I haven’t seen Elizabeth Warren aside from a few clips. But if she is a tenth as annoying as Kate’s impression, I can’t vote for her. As someone old enough to have seen the original Charlie’s Angels, and who has seen the prior movies, I have no idea what the new one is about except apparently Charlie isn’t a man. That was one quick cutting, confusing trailer. ”Shove his head right up my ass until he was dead.” Heh. Until I had kids, I needed that duo lingo. Didn’t get the point of the paint colour skit. Seemed random. Poor dog. Also, poor timing given the Washington Post story last week that the US used to kill its military dogs when it pulled out. The corporate skit thing was The Truth. No thanks, Coldplay. What is SNL’s fascination with portraying kid characters on WU? They are never, ever funny. Especially when you add a mom. Though choosing a southern accent was an interesting choice.
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This ep was a disappointment after several eps I had enjoyed. Everyone suddenly became stupid. I couldn’t believe it took Wellick however long to think about the fact the cashier knew him. I thought they were going to kill her back when it happened, with some last-minute justification. They assumed the Dark Army guy recovered and stole the truck. Did they never check his vitals? And Wellick manages to get shot. Genius. I guess the idea was to get Wellick and Elliott together to have a Meaningful Talk. Was that meaningful? The argument on the roadside felt a lot like three personalities of Elliott. Elliott this season doesn’t seem like Elliott. Not sure what Darlene’s Santa adventure was supposed to be about. She made a bunch of assumptions, which, when you think about it, is what she did when she started out on the “being down society” scheme. Or the online lesbian dreams vision. I kept waiting for Darlene to bump into them as she drove around Santa, and then afterward.
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Think it was a humble brag? I'm with you, and once she said the price I would have said "get back in the car." And because of this approach to spending, I am in my mid-50s and able to retire if I wanted to barring a market meltdown or health issue. Just because one *can* afford something doesn't mean one should buy it! Maybe it's less about the input and more about the, er, output? In other words, perhaps she is full of ...