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I don't see romantic chemistry between anyone on the show, Iris and Eddie, Iris and Barry, Barry and anyone, etc. I don't think it is the acting, I think it is the writing. So far we have been given nothing to indicate why Barry is in love with Iris. On her part, sometimes it is just a matter of not thinking of a person in a certain way because you've never thought of it as an option. I would rather see them falling in love than have to go on what happened off screen before As one of the few people that actually do not want Felicity and Oliver together on Arrow, I also don't think she had any chemistry with Barry. I couldn't get into this episode for some reason. I actually think the character Eddie is the most boring and the most poorly acted. I don't think the show would miss anything if he were not around.

Henry is the worst thing to happen to the show. Having him be the "son" was not a great idea. The show has lost some of its appeal. Both Haw;ey and Henry are boring, and Irving should not still be in prison. Trying to hang in there, but it is getting boring.

Excited about Max Brown being on the show!

I am excited about Max Brown being added to the cast. I hope he is the love interest for Abbie, but if he is at least the love interest for Jenny I will be happy. Who thinks, however, that he will end up chasing after Katrina?

I don't think I said we had to "root" for anybody. I said that stable relationships are not boring in the hands of the right writer and dysfunctional ones are interesting in the hands of the right writer without being repetitive. I am trying to hang in there, but on most shows there is someone that you identify with, either to despise them, aspire to be like them, admire their courage, etc. On this show I personally don't identify with any character and pretty much find them all boring or weak and the flash forwarding annoying. I'm in it for Viola Davis and so far it is just meh. Obviously others are finding it enthralling, so to each their own.

Gosh, I love Viola Davis, but I am having a hard time following this show. I agree the reveal on the words was so disappointing! Regardless of how many interns her husband has slept with she loses my sympathy because she is also sleeping with someone...who is married. She also chose to stay with him when she obviously has the means and abilities to be on her own. Shonda Rimes likes writing these "strong" female characters that are weak and involved with dysfunctional men. Seriously, on this show or any of her shows does anyone have a stable relationship? If written right, a stable relationship does not have to be boring. Although I fast forward a lot, I agree with the poster that stated that the one character seems to be smart enough to gather information without having to sleep with someone for it. I want to like this show so much, but the interns bore me and Viola seems out of place. I am also not thrilled with the fast forwarding and knowing that the husband is going to be killed. I like T. Verica and was glad he was going to be on TV again after American Dreams. Moving forward I also think the Viola Davis character will be more interesting with a husband.

I am bored to death this season. I don't like Jeremy, Henry or the Horseman of War...whatever they call him. Using him as the "big bad" is a big old bore. I am also not blown away by the new guy. I find myself fast forwarding through most of the episodes or just taking care of chores instead of being riveted to the scenes like I was last year. One would think knowing the stakes Irving would have been more cautious. Things need to pick up or change really quickly!

By the time this show returns in three weeks, people will have forgotten what happened. The Elam return was pointless, and I think it is pointless to kill Ezra. What is the deal with Mickey? Overall I am sad to say I have fast forwarded most of this season.

I am not loving the Henry story. The whole, "son" aspect bores me and I am not blown away by the acting. He is just an unnecessary character to me.

I couldn't watch this episode and the rest of the season has not been too much better. .

I had very little faith in this show from last year, and this season has just proved me right. Egad!

I actually did not like the episode because it was too predictable. I knew the season would end with Louis finding out the season, the only thing I was wrong about was Mike telling him. Of course, however he did figure it out because of something that Mike did. It is just so unrealistic that after the reunion party that he and Jenny went to, the female attorney they didn't hire, and the ethics teacher thing that Mike would not have spent some days or weeks down at Harvard learning all the local hangouts, teachers, traditions etc to make his lie believable, or at least reading about those things. I am frustrated by the Jessica character, but only because they keep making her the helpless victim of MIke and Harvey's shenanigans. Jessica respects Louis' business abilities, but she does not like his neediness. I think this is totally realistic. Jessica needs a strong personality like Harvey to stand up to her and would be frustrated by someone like Louis needing constant validation. Louis may be good as some things, but it has also been shown he is not good at others, like building relationships with the majority of the people he worked with, or even a woman until Shelia. I would have been way more entertained with a story of Louis working for Zane and proving he does not need any validation from Harvey and Jessica than the same boring I am going to blackmail you with Mike's secret, or ANYTHING to do with that secret. The only thing I did like was Louis calling Donna on her hypocrisy and supposed friendship. I have often said that she is no friend to Louis or to Rachel, and needs to find an identify of her own outside of Harvey. This show has just proven again that it cannot figure out a way to get around the flaw in the premise of the show. Gina Torres looked great, and we had very little of Rachel and no Mike and Rachel drama. I also wish they would stop finding reasons for bring back Michael Gross.

There was no reason for AM to look so bad this season. Of all the props they have to use, they literally have her sit with a PILLOW over her stomach? The thing with Zach and Savi is not believable. He is a boring character that I have no interest in getting to know better, and rather than "fitted" looking, the jacket was 2 sizes too small! No company would let Dom keep Toni on, regardless of what a client wants. They would fire her or force her to resign, and then just tell the client she moved on. Although I did not like Dom and Savi together, she has pretty much wrecked his career. What happened to her own career? They could have still written her as a good lawyer even though she was pregnant. It was stupid to have her work in the office with Toni. Just because she was on medical leave she has to come back in a less visible position? Or did she leave the firm before the car accident. The April situation is just too stupid to comment on. Ditto with Karen...I'm sure he is there to tell her he has a disease or was having a relationship with Jacob or something. This show wants so desperately to be interesting that they are willing to do the whole sister swap story. Joss is so immature that it is laughable that Harry would be interested in her after all of the things he said about her sister. If Savi's actions got on his nerves, then he would kill Joss. Also, she has never shown herself to be capable of being faithful. They have given the impression that Savi and Harry practically helped "raise" a grown Joss, and now they are romantically interested in each other? What about not acting on every feeling that you have. A sister sleeping with her sister's ex is the height of desperation for some ratings or interest. I don't like Joss with anybody and I find shoe guy bland, but I'd rather see her with him than with Harry. I also like the way he responded to her pre nup issues, and when she got mad at him for being late for dinner when he had lost a patient.

No, I don't think the mistake was letting him go, it was bringing him back If they were not going to resolve the issue of his being a "real lawyer" in the first couple of seasons, it just became more and more difficult having him work as a fake lawyer, but also wanting to write Mike as a good guy with integrity. Had they left him in a profession outside of law, but still interacts with lawyers the problem would have been solved. Until this Louis was annoying and made mistakes, but he had never done anything deliberately that would place the firm at risk to legal action. The reason it is not the same is because if she punishes Harvey or mike she loses everything, especially respect from her peers.

I forgot about Franklin and Bash. I heard Pindar and Carmen were gone, and after the Heather Locklear debacle, I was unsure. Maybe I can catch it on a rerun. Everyone keeps talking about how loyal and valuable to the firm Louis is, which is exactly all the reasons he would never have made that deal in the first place..and I'd forgotten about him not waiting to hear from Harvey before he did something this season after Jessica told him to. Rick Hoffman is so good at making you feel sympathetic to his character, that until Jessica started listing things I'd forgotten most of them, and then when I thought back to other seasons it did seem like a lot. I agree with you though....when you think about Mike's situation (and the fact that Harvey created it) it is ludicrous that they could get upset about anything that Louis does. I didn't even watch the whole episode, I 'll have to go back and see what happened with Cahill. Also, could all those words be on the little typed piece of paper that they had in their hands? Seemed like a lot. If Jessica is tired of Louis, is she not yet tired of Jeff's whining? She told him the deal when he took the job, and obviously he did not know her well before he got into a relationship with her. Harvey's Mike love during the deposition was nauseating....and who would talk like that during a deposition? Maybe since the big move it is too far for Mike to ride the bike to work, so it is in storage? They are way too busy being awesome to cook! I think the only person they have shown cooking is Jessica!

Jessica's outfits looked good this episode. Still not liking her boyfriend, and I don't believe that Louis would have went to him so easily. I guess they want to see how many ugly white dresses they can put Donna in. Actually I'm tired of Donna being a plot point to stir everyone's conscience. Are these people not capable of figuring out anything without her, even their own feelings? Also, didn't Jessica bring Donna back only because it was one of Harvey's conditions? I think it is credible that someone in Jessica's position would fire Donna and Louis for what they did in a law firm. In business, you don't always make decisions based upon emotions or who you like because she has a responsibility to the other employees that work at this "large" firm. If they do something that could end the firm or cost it substantial money, she is supposed to act. As good as Louis is, in real life she is correct. He makes too many decisions and acts too much on emotions, jealousy, fear, anger, etc. Even with blabbing to Jeff Malone...just another example of how he doesn't think things through before he speaks. I also don't think Donna needs to call Jessica out for not liking Louis like Harvey. Where is it written that you have to have the same type of relationship with all employees? I'm sure she would not expect Harvey to treat other employees the way he treats her. My father always told me, do your job and do it well, but remember they have no real loyalty to you in business. If you drop dead tomorrow, they will have to roll someone else's chair in your place and keep going. The fact is, Jessica and Harvey have a different relationship, and if you really had an employee like Louis it would get tiring to interact with him when you were always being reassuring, encouraging, etc. to keep him calm. Someone in Louis' position would have more confidence. I am interested more in Louis' backstory. Doesn't he have parents? Why is he so needy of Jessica and Harvey's "mother/father" approval? Of course she doesn't treat him like Harvey, because Harvey doesn't whine like Louis. Even when he is given praise he is still whining. As valuable as Louis is, it is ridiculous to think that he is the only one that can do a job..whether it is training associates or something else. Any good organization has more than one person that has a skill set or knowledge. So, if he had died from the heart attack the firm was going to shut down? That being said, I love Louis and would rather not see a show without him because Mike and Harvey are so hard to watch in the last two season. Maybe Mike will leave and go work with Louis? Maybe Mike will tell Louis his secret so they have to bring him back? Also, I get that things can't go back to normal immediately for Mike and Rachel, but do we need to see that on screen? Can't they just refer to it as "we are still having problems," or something? If he came back last episode, why would we immediately have to see another scene with him interrogating her? Either he believes her or he doesn't, and if they were going to play it that way they should have left him at the hotel. This is tiring, boring and annoying. Rachel should have told him that she wasn't going to keep apologizing, anymore than he keeps apologizing for being a fraud, so deal with it or don't. At the minimum he would have woken up the next day with me being gone. Not necessarily a breakup, but I'm not going to live with you so you can berate me every time it crosses your mind. I thought Jeff Malone was supposed to be working with that lawyer that Mike got in trouble last year, the one that had gambling problems?

Jessica looked nice in this episode. Didn't like yet another white dress on Donna. Donna and Harvey should never give relationship advice, and Rachel needs to find a new friend. i hate the way that friendship was shoehorned in. The inconsistency in the writing drives me crazy. Donna is presented as all knowing and they had her all in Louis' business this season, but it takes Mike all of two days to figure out something is wrong with Louis and he has done something wrong? I hate the way they have MIke talking to Jessica as if he is challenging her, after he put her in a position where to right his and Harvey's wrong she would pretty much have to give up everything she has worked for. Harvey and Mike bickering and trying to out do each other behind this deal created the whole situation. If Harvey had supported Mike's idea, all that followed would not have been an issue. More people storming out of rooms, sometimes in the middle of a conversation, threats, ultimatums and lack of character growth. Rachel simpering after Mike..Donna making everything about Harvey or about her and Harvey. I fast forwarded a lot. What did Katrina do? I don't know why Donna was mad at Rachel, but I find i don't really care.

Regardless of what the character said, the implication was that Mike's leaving came after he had the conversation with Jessica and realized he would always be in the shadows, not able to take credit for his "brilliance," because it would call too much attention to him and his secret might be exposed. He may have said or supposedly realized that he wanted to "protect" the people that he cares about, but ultimately it seemed to be more about I can never get any real credit since I can't let people know which big coos and deals are my idea because they might ask too many questions. If it were really about protecting those he loves he wouldn't come back and would have tried harder to make the investment thing work. He is coming back because he wants to be somewhere that he feels successful to make himself feel better. He could go be a fraud in another firm, he has the credentials, and thereby still protect people he cares about by exposing strangers that he doesn't care about to his fraudulent practices. It is that type of inconsistency in the writing that drives me crazy. If he wanted to protect the firm, why write him as returning to the firm, which is now under more threat due to the investigation? I also agree with the poster above...if Harvey has such a problem with cheaters, why was he so ok with Mike's cheating with a married woman? If Louis has such a devotion to ethics (episode with ethics professor and MIke) why is he ok with the money laundering thing just to get respect from Harvey and Jessica? I did not like Louis with Shelia. I want him to have a girlfriend, but the two of them together was too much strangeness. I also wonder how they are going to work MIke's former secretary into this mix. Katrina should be working with Harvey and Rachel with Louis.

Jessica was very well dressed this episode and her hair looked good! I will have to go back and look for Donna's white dress. I did a lot of fast forwarding and I guess I missed it. Are you talking about the one with the pleats at the bottom? I thought they messed up the dress and did not look good on her legs. Why can't they have some type of giveaway so that we can win some of these clothes?! I 'm sure it will be revealed that Mike kept his old place and has secretly been paying rent on it or something so he can "go back to where he started." Mike has a tendency to revert to old habits when he is faced with a challenge. I loved his ultimatum to Rachel, "for us to have a chance you have to accept the fact that I am a liar and breaking the law by coming back and pretending to be a lawyer and be ok with that every day of our life, but I need time to think about how I feel about one kiss that lasted maybe 60 seconds, because dishonesty is a dealbreaker." Never mind that your dream your entire life has been to be a lawyer, you know to uphold the law and have ethical standards but, for LOVE you need to just fold on this one tiny little thing, and never think or speak of it again....hence the real reason why Mike and Rachel shouldn't be together. She should do this of course because Mike is such a good guy and awesome catch...one that uses drugs, was in the middle of a drug deal, took his granny for granted, coveted his best friends girlfriend, was dishonest with Jenny, helped people cheat on tests (how many bad lawyers, etc is he responsible for by taking their tests for them?) represents himself as a lawyer, and now betrayed Sidwell? I used to wonder how he and Trevor were friends, but now I totally get it. Trevor was Mike's excause to not succeed, and it show that he is more of a follower than a leader..also exposed in how he handled this business deal. The problem with the show is not Rachel and Mike, the problem is that they started the show on the premise of Mike being a good guy that was caught up in all these circumstances. He wanted to be a lawyer all his life so he could "right" wrongs, but "circumstances" (namely following Trevor) had combined to derail this...but he DESERVED it! They then turned him into a desperate con artist willing to do anything to save his secret so he could keep his lifestyle. If he managed to help someone along the way, fine, but at the end of the day, it is about him protecting his secret and showing how awesome and smart he is, not about his helping other people. In the process they ruined the friendship between Jessica and Harvey. Say what you will, but in Jessica's shoes how would you feel about Harvey being willing to bring a fraud into your company and risk everything that you have worked to build, just because he could? What Harvey and Mike have done is made Jessica an unwilling accomplice, and it has put a strain on how she relates to Harvey. Now, when they have an agency that thinks Mike and Harvey were colluding investigating them, it makes so much SENSE to have Mike come back to the firm! Right! On top of that, they saddle her with a boring boyfriend instead of someone with equal or more power and a dynamic presence. (I second the request to see a significant portion of Jessica's place...and make it FABULOUS!) Donna has never evolved into a full person. She is there to prop Harvey and now be Louis' protector and Rachel's sounding board. The one time they gave her a "storyline" it involved her being a liar and destroying evidence (of course to protect Harvey), and a boyfriend that was not into HER, but into trying to best Harvey on something. Everyone uses her, as a sounding board, as a source of information, etc. Louis was better before he became the "joke" of the firm. Every character has to be sacrificed to make Harvey and Mike look better. I miss the old conniving Louis, whom at least was shown to be competent at his job. Now he is portrayed as an insecure mess who needs Katrina to tell him what to do. They took away the great chemistry between Rachel and Louis as co workers (and opera lovers!) to push her into this Logan//Harvey interaction mess. No way Rachel would be Harvey's assistant when she is going to law school part time. No doubt Harvey or Mike will have to save Louis from this mess, because God forbid he saves himself. The best scene this year for me was Jessica cooking in Harvey's apartment. It showed their bond and respect for each other, and it had humor when she asked if he was imagining her naked. Even the Donna/Louis stuff did not cut if for me because it was again about making Louis look weak and that he needs someone else to figure out or solve all his problems. Can this end like Seinfeld with everyone going to jail, being disbarred or practicing law from their car like Rush? Well, of course, except for MIke because he is not a lawyer! I got it! Perfect fit for Mike! Law from his Lincoln where he only deals in cash and helps the truly underserved....Lincoln Lawyer...or am I thinking of an other show??

Ah, the episode is not even over and it has become so predictable. One wonders how any of these people became successful or are considered successful when they act like children and make such stupid decisions based upon emotion. Harvey bullies Louis, Louis seeks Jessica's approval and Harvey's respect, Louis angers Harvey, Harvey bullies Louis, Louis consorts with the enemy..Jessica and Harvey are not on the same page.....and we go on and on, rinse an repeat..and no one grows or learns from the last blow up or situation. The writers clearly hate the character of Rachel ...but oddly her story is the only one that makes sense to me. I get that she would be attracted to him. She felt like she did not have his respect in the past, now he is back, he seems to respect her and she still has unresolved feelings about MIke's deception. It strokes her ego that he compliments her business prowness after dismissing her to his wife as "just a paralegal" and he is pursuing her. She'll be the "bad girlfriend," but the truth is every time she meets someone or takes MIke home it makes her a liar. She is lying to her parents and herself because she feel in love with him with under false pretenses,, and once she found out she had the choice to walk away-but still keep his secret of course!-or stick it out and constantly worry about being exposed. She chose the latter, but she can't handle it, and that is very realistic. We make choices in relationships all the time and think we can deal with it, have every intention of doing so, ,but the reality is more than we can bear. Then something else comes along and it appears to be less complicated, ,and it is tempting. This is real life, and it is why there are so many divorces. People don't want to work at it especially when it is hard and complicated. So I do get this. . Why also would she trust Donna, her "friend" who was her "friend" the longest, but covered for Mike? Donna's advice would mean zero to me right now, and I would have figured out I needed other friends to talk to about work and Mike. Relationships are hard work and people make mistakes. MIke forgets how he treated Rachel trying to hold on to his secret, but he can't forgive her for a kiss? One that she is going to admit to? His reaction to bad news is always to go off the rails( start smoking weed, sleeping with married women, etc.) not to face anything like a grown up. He didn't even break up with everyone's favorite Jenny the "right" way. The most grown up thing he did since the show started was to leave the firm an keep the liability away from what Harvey and Jessica built, and then he has to blow it with this deal. He should also have had sense enough to not include Rachel's idea of a "demand" for Logan. Again, that was a business decision based on emotion and we are going to make Harvey "choose" who he wants to be friends with when millions of dollars are on the table? They had the perfect fix to Mike not being under this terrible secret and still being able to interact with the firm, and they ruined it with this mess. I started typing this at 8:40 and it gets worse with Louis. Of course he could not have his "moment." They had to somehow make it where he not only embarrasses himself with the deal guy about his hatred for Harvey, but now he has made a mistake with the deal? Also is this the same person that lectured Mike about ethics? Unbelievable!!! I don't think I can hang in even for the clothes...only Donna had something on that I covet this week and she is usually the worst dressed. They have messed up my Jessica love by giving her a dull boyfriend, made Louis a whiny baby, Donna insufferable and Harvey and Mike two kids squabbling on the playground. Rachel is not the only or even the biggest problem with this show.

I think Brian Halisay? was just cast in Revenge. I think they don't film at the same time, so he may be able to do both. Odd, I was just thinking that he did not have chemistry with Karen, or with his own wife on the Client List. I took it as a sign that Revenge is surely on its last legs!

I think it is the lying he has a problem with. They have not written him to be possessive or controlling. Even her friends tried an intervention, so they also realize she is hiding something. His career is at risk because of her, and on top of that she is lying. He has been shown to be extremely sensitive to her, even reassuring her about her looks, etc. and made it clear he wants no secrets between them. From a safety perspective, he was also spot on about her just inviting the man into her home, etc. That was dangerous, and underlying the anger there was some concern about her engaging in risky behavior. They just haven't done a great job of giving A.M. a interesting story. Even her "whose the daddy, cheating" story from last year was the most boring thing on the show compared to April's undead husband, Joss' lesbian relationship, and Karen sleeping with father/son and having the murdering wife on her case. If A.M. is supposed to be the big star, she is getting the short end.

I can't understand why he would not have called the mother and explained that the boy showed up, or explained when he returned him. I am interested to see how Johnny gets out of sleeping with the brother. I suspected he was gay from the beginning, and was sure in the scene where he was having sex with the girls and wanted Johnny to watch. Is it possible that the sister called after kissing Johnny and told him something was not right? How will Johnny be able to keep from sleeping with him? My biggest problem with this show is I don't enjoy the two male leads, Briggs and Mike. When any other character is the focus I am engaged, but those two bore me. I cringed in the scene where MIke was being "forceful" with the supervisor/girlfriend. Was the mic one way? Had they not agreed upon some type of signal? Did Paige not have a cell phone? Why would she go ahead and substitute herself without some type of acknowledgement that Jakes heard her, and why would he just not tell the police he was on an assignment and someone was possibly in danger if he did not respond? yeah, I don't know about another season.

Is it me or what is going on with Harvey's hair? No longer must see tv for me, I did not see the whole episode, so I will have to comment after I watch. The one thing I did see that stuck out was surely Rachel's parents would be one of her emergency contacts? She may be at odds with her father about the lawyer thing, but it seemed that she and her mom had a good relationship, and outside of that nothing was going on with dad that would be so bad she would not want him notified in an emergency. Oh the dumbing down they do for the sake of a plot point! Must watch to see the fashion! I hope Gina is back to excellence.

So I guess telling the patient to find another doctor is not an option? Why would Karen want to stop seeing him, unless she thinks he was seeing her patient as a prostitute? I am not sure of April's backstory, but she seems to have a lot of issues. It is almost like she relishes her friend's issues so that she can feel morally superior, but she is always the "victim" in her own situations. On one hand I appreciate that not all of the women are sleeping with random men, cheating on their spouse, etc, but please, give her a decent storyline. I kind of get the Jacob thing. He is still a good guy, but not the right guy for her. .As he said, they were in business together. Turning Karen in was the right thing to do for her (and him) as a doctor/business partner and as a friend. Covering something like that up when he knew it would say something about his character, and her actions really were a cry for help, especially getting involved with the son. Her pattern of self destructive behavior continues. Dom, Zack, Scott, Jacob, even the artist...the show has a problem with casting guys that have chemistry with the women, even on a friendly basis. None of the couples have any chemistry, no matter what kind of "sexy" situations they put them in, and no matter how many shirtless scenes there are, and the men just seem to young for the parts they are playing. Zach seems like a frat boy, Dom does not resonate as a partner in a law firm, Scott seems too young and boyish to be a successful sought after plastic surgeon, and Harry just doesn't have a personality. I continue to say that even with her being heavily pregnant, the hair an makeup people could do a better job with Alyssa Milano. Joss is just horsey and immature. It is hard to buy her as this beautiful "free spirit." I don't think ages have been discussed, but they have her acting like a high school student.