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It also appears they are getting married in Scotland, I wonder if her mom can travel for that? I wouldn't be surprised if she actually purchases a new dress now that she is actually getting married. She can always wear her mom's dress for just the ceremony or pictures or something

exactly! Since they showed previews of Lisa, Alora Rose and Daphne that alluded to their reasons for leaving but none of Amanda, I wondered if they were going to bypass her exit altogether. Especially since it was rumored to be vaccine related, I could see TPTB not wanting to show that but I guess we'll see!

soo weren't there 52 girls in TC? It's been awhile since I've been on the boards so I don't really remember (long time lurker). Are they just ignoring veteran Amanda and not showing her leaving? Also surprised there was no mention of how many vets were returning nor anything about Victoria stepping away for a season.

Just a little PSA Oregon has over 500 wineries and makes pretty delicious wine. Especially known for Pinot Noir. I’m shocked people don’t know this but I probably didn’t either before I moved here! https://www.oregonwinecountry.org/ back to show, growing vines and making “Roloff” wines screams Caryn to me. Not sure how much longer this show can last focusing on Matt, Caryn, Amy and Chris. Tori and Zach seem so over it and like it’s painful for them to have to do anything

Why wasn't Jessa wearing her wedding ring/engagement ring? I noticed her hands were bare during her talking heads and during skiing. I usually barely pay attention to the screen when I watch so I don't know if this is a common occurrence? Do they perhaps no longer fit? Just seems strange in their world to not wear her rings.

Wow I'm actually shocked Kelli cut Dayton! I'm also sad because I think she is a beautiful girl and would have made a great DCC. I guess we'll have to wait to see what happened- I can only imagine she wasn't picking up the choreography or "DCC style" to be cut this early. Poor Shelly - this must be so hard on her too! I wonder if Dayton will try out again next year? I guess it depends on the feedback and if she can improve whatever was the issue. Not sure I could give it another try if I was her

I liked that Kendra and Joe didn't spend all day together before the wedding like all the Duggar brides. They seem like a sweet couple albeit a bit dull. My husband came in during Pastor Caldwell's father speech and said "did her dad write that for her before he died or something?" And I was like "um that is her dad" and he was genuinely shocked and said he thought it was her brother giving her away. Her parents do look super young and are basically my age! We only have a 3 year old (we started late) but I can't imagine having a child of marrying age

Thank you Bitter Apple for deciphering the picture! Now that you've described it, I can see it clearly! I laughed heartily for a good 5 min though that I thought it was a baby bear when it's just Michelle's rat nest! Still can't believe this pic is hanging in their bathroom - so bizarre! But then again that is what they are! Derrick needs to gain weight and get healthy - that may help him look less vulture like. Jill needs to chop a foot off her hair, and dress for her body type (both when pregnant and when not)

I like Derrick's new haircut/style - it is so much better than the man bangs he used to rock. Props to Jilly for doing something decently for once! That picture in the bathroom is driving me crazy - is it JimBoob with a baby bear wrapped around him? Where was it taken? Besides its odd location in the bathroom the picture itself is just odd!

It's American Eagle or Hollister - found in pretty much every mall in America and not fundie-wear

I'm pretty sure their engagement didn't happen downtown. There are various pictures, but between them they show 3 standout buildings. The building on the left of them above Jeremy's shoulder with the clock is on 23rd and Park Ave South (I call it the Credit Suisse building but as QueenAnne noted above it's the MetLife Tower), the gold triangle shaped building is the middle one and is the New York Life building and the Empire State Building is on their right so they have to be uptown of those buildings looking downtown in order for that to be possible. There are lots of rooftops in NYC - restaurants/bars/event spaces etc they could have taken the pics at

The name on Anna's bed was Jana so once again Jana-Rella had to give up something of hers for someone else. I'd like to think it's because it looked like it was in a more private nook of the room but it's hard not to feel for her having to always give up everything. Her and Anna should move out and live together -that'd be a more interesting show than this crap

Thanks! I had no idea -it sounds so much like Jessica!

It sounds like their version of ABC is in the new Target ad. That's got to be pretty good exposure for them

I wonder if VV's creepy pale sidekick will wind up to be the rapist/father? Wasn't he a redhead too? Or is Colin's ex a redhead like the son? Maybe she is sister's with VV's wife... The picture VV gave Colin looked nothing like the son and neither does Colin . So many questions!

Watching CNN after the interview they had a bunch of experts, child psychologists and Erin Merryn talk -they said that molestors usually start while victim is sleeping and escalate from there to see how far they can go without being caught. I guess that explains how it could have started without the girls knowledge if it was very light touching to begin with. But it obviously escalated to the point he felt he could do it in front of others and get away with it. The Duggars failed as parents and they can't seem to acknowledge that. Also cnn and Twitter want to know why josh couldn't speak for himself. From what I've seen Megyn Kelly asked some tough questions but did not call them out on their bs or non answers. I'm hoping she was just letting them dig their own grave when they said the public knowledge of this was worse than the the molestation and that so many other families have gone through the same thing and it isn't a big deal. She should have laid into them on that.

Frankly, you can't undo what has been done. The report is out there and the Duggar's should have to answer to it. They can speak to how much it was a violation of their privacy and the victim's, which is fine, but I really hope the most important part isn't overlooked here. He molested at least 5 young women, and for the past 10+ years the family has acted like nothing like this has ever happened to them, while spewing their hate against other "sinners". It just makes me sick and I won't be watching the interview or ever tune into Fox News for any kind of reporting of facts.

Did anyone notice in the episode during one of the home videos they blurred out what looks like OJ and Nicole Simpson? It's 49 minutes in and Khloe is sitting on Bruce's shoulders and it looks like OJ is next to Bruce and Nicole is behind him. It also looks like their two little kids are with them. Kind of a sad reminder

Gotta love that the crew admitted to watching over the kids, telling them not to do things, cleaning up and doing head counts while traveling. Do Boob and Michelle do anything??

I'm guessing a mid to late October due date. Based on pictures we've seen I think they conceived in mid to end of January. I announced in April last year and I started showing in my stomach pretty much right away (most likely bloating) in Feb of last year but unlike Jessa I didn't wear tight shirts because I didn't want people to speculate until I was past 12 weeks. It's weird that she isn't hiding it but maybe we can hope that she's on birth control pills and that made her bloat/gain weight! Edited to add that based on my own experience and how she looks is why I'm speculating a similar due date if she is in fact pregnant..

I'm glad that Jill and little Iz are ok after that story. But two things are clear 1) that baby did not want to come out and join the Duggar circus And 2) Jill may not be a natural born birther like her mother and Kelly Bates and may have to "settle" for only a handful of children.

I know someone who just last fall was 10 days late and gave birth in a hospital and her baby came out with respiratory issues and could not be revived from aspirating meconium. It happened right before my baby was born and scared the bejesus out of me. I can't imagine the devastation of losing a full term baby during delivery and my heart still hurts for her and her husband. Also when I was pregnant last fall, my doctor asked if I wanted to be in a research study about inducing at 39 weeks as there have already been studies that it is safer for mom and baby to be induced a week early rather than a week late at 41 weeks. Luckily I went into labor on my own at 39 weeks but I would have gladly induced at 40w 1 day ( even though I was scared) because I could barely walk or sit at the end because her head was already down in the birth canal. If Jill is still pregnant -and I seriously think she is because it will be announced by People or US and not the family or the show- then I hope it all goes smoothly there are a lot of dangers to giving birth at any time but I wouldn't take any unnecessary risks.

No worries as a previous poster mentioned it is fairly standard testing now especially for women over 35 or other pregnancies considered higher risk- it checks for genetic defects and finding out the sex is a nice bonus to it.

I had a blood test at 10 weeks that told me the gender of my baby and it was correct. When Erin went to the doctor she said she was going for the results. My doctor told me the results of my blood test about a week or two after I had it done so I think that is how Erin found out the gender so early. The anatomy scan where you traditionally find out the sex at closer to 20 weeks - they generally tell you right there what the sex is or they write it down for you - you don't go back to the doctor's office to find out.

I think baby Dilly is definitely making his debut on Easter Sunday and they will have to call him Jesus to keep with the J name tradition and the whole "god's gift" theme. Lol. In all seriousness I was thinking they may go for David- religious enough name and matches the D last name and Derick's initials. Hope she has this kid soon! I was a week early with my first child and I was so grateful I went early because I was so uncomfortable and she was 8.4lb