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I mean... Matthew reminds me of Matthew Crawley. A LOT. And Christmas episodes and characters named Matthew in British period pieces..... I mean I don't know any inside info BUT THERE WAS A PORTENTIOUS RAVEN IN NONNATUS HOUSE!!!!

At least she bothered. No happy birthday from Matt for his first born sons. I think its very normal to wish her eldest sons happy birthday without, you know, referencing her new husband.

It was his dad's. He says to someone, fred maybe? That he brought it because his dad always wants his coat and his bag in a crisis. Dr. Turner didn't get specific into WHY Tim shouldn't be wearing it but basically? My thought? Tim isn't a doctor yet and shouldn't be pretending to be one in a crisis.

This is probably why Matt doesn't want to sell, he can't possibly stand against Jackson's ALL CONSUMING POWER! :D

Well, thats unfortunate. Thanks for the response!

All the more hilarious because its a rare time where Tori didn't actually go with that phrasing :D

Oh agreed, And Murphy is hilarious - a friend who is on my church board with me has a dog similar in personality if not in looks also called Murphy and last night we voted him president of the church board, jokingly of course. I do want to add just one thing: Yeah, and doesn't Caryn like to go on about how she was best pals with Amy as well? Maybe, just maybe, Caryn is part of the problem here. It surely does benefit *Caryn* for Matt to be on bad terms with his kids.

What did he do to piss everyone off? Yeah, Buck was overreacting although maybe he was worried about being part of the "we stole his personnel file" stuff. At the same time, he was on board with his buddies using Taylor to get info on Jonah so.... I dunno, she doesn't do much for me but I think Buck needs to grow up.

Agreed but here's how it works if they had done it right. Everyone is fine after the accident. We get to the moment Jonah takes the shot. Blackness. Then Wendy opens her eyes in the hospital to find out it was some sort of cartel hit, the FBI - preferably the original crazy as fuck gay FBI agent who hated her - tells her that her entire family is dead from the hit.

I mean maybe thats why everyone wants to work with him, because he's so open to high school grads etc but yeah, fair point. I assumed it was more of a great in state opportunity.

Correct. I mean, things could change but thats how the last few years have been.

Also finding this teaser sort of hilarious in that Caryn is pratting how *her* family handles their shit so much better than the Roloffs.... didn't her son plead guilty to harassing her? Yes, per The Sun, yes he did. https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/3581214/little-people-caryn-chandler-son-connor-pleads-guilty-harassment/ So Caryn's "what the fuck" makes me question just how great her family handles their own issues. Also, maybe its best Jackson and Lilah don't see Chacha who throws the f-word down on national television about, you know, *their mom and dad*. Eta - I want to correct myself - Caryn said on national television "who the fuck does that" not "what the fuck" - it is still badmouthing Jackson and Lilah's parents with profanity in public.

Thats my point really. The farm isn't Disneyland and Pumpkin season isn't displaying INCREDIBLE NEW ATTRACTIONS... it really pretty much should be running itself at this point.

Darlene blew Frank Jr.s *penis* off :) Lets be accurate ;)

Agreed but while I think some of that is her acceptance that Zach isn't likely to do well in the role, I also think some of that was her realization that she was not going to be able to protect him from Matt's douchebaggery. Right, Amy is concerned about the farm tearing the family apart. Matt simply doesn't care. My small aside here is that everyone does realize that Zach likely does have a lot of money put aside and doesn't necessarily need to "run the farm" in order to survive, right? They could just live there and do the show and NOT do pumpkin season or do a lighter pumpkin season. There's never been an add on to the attractions in the last fifteen years that was earth shattering amazing. Matt likes to act like running that farm IS rocket science, and guys, it really isn't.

I thought he was going for confidence, not dominance. I will says Judd's advice is a bit old school and overly masculine but like I said, if an interviewer openly dissed me in front of other interviewees over being *overdressed* - not a crime, and yes, a sign of respect - I'd be questioning whether I want the unpaid internship. I was rolling my eyes at this. Lets ignore the building blowing up and pretend Judd got to the reception desk. So he has no appointment and Wyatt has no appointment. Judd might bully his way to the CEO guy (although that sort of behavior usually gets security and the police called) and then what? He's a demanding, somewhat physically intimidating man acting like a helicopter parent. If anything makes Wyatt look like a weak ass douche, its Daddy demanding the company hire his kid because his kid is so super awesome. Does that ever work? In real life?

I have to admit, this is the part that I was like "hmmmm" on. If something was found in Claudette's blood, no matter how suspicious it might look, all Jonah - who is just an EMT/paramedic - has to say is a contrite "I'm sorry, I made a mistake". He *might* get fired. More likely reprimanded. Since he's not in Bobby's station anymore anyway, not likely to be transfered unless his new station has an issue. But calling Hen in a threatening way ups the ante a lot even without the resulting kidnapping. Hen had opportunity to call her wife and relay the threat complete with "go to Bobby's place" so when Hen theoretically turns up missing both Karen and Bobby are going to mention to the police the whole Jonah issue. Considering how broken into Chim's place looked, I am sure there was plenty of evidence left behind.

What else are they supposed to do? Take the kids to Granddad so he can fill their heads with how Grandpa is the victim of Daddy? Well, she's Matt's ally and again, are they supposed to act like they aren't mad? If they're simply taking advantage of Matt's lover as a free babysitter, perhaps its best for everyone that they tend their own kids. Also when it comes to sides, Caryn is clearly on Team Matt with her public "what the fucks" in his honor. Mind you, I agree that Matt does not in any way consider Caryn a partner on the farm and she's well aware of that so no matter how long she's been friends with Tory, she's "what the fuck" on camera for Matt's honor as Tory isn't taking her on exotic vacations or on lengthy vacations in Arizona. Caryn's job is pleasing her man. Not allowing access to the grandkids is a strategy and not one I wholly approve of to be honest, but I understand it and its not abusive to the kids. Frankly, the older the kids get the more I don't think Matt should get unfettered access as he IS toxic. In other words, I am sure his "special bond" with Jackson will soon be supplanted by another grandchild. Possibly Caryn's at this point.

I appreciated Judd's advice on dressing up rather than down and being confident. If an interviewer treated me so poorly in front of other candidates like that, honestly that's pretty telling what the work environment is like. I did enjoy everyone's expectation that Owen was going to punch the abuser. I genuinely question a police system where a woman is shrieking her terror that her husband will hurt the kids and there's no "lets call child services and just make sure" - also pretty certain they could have insisted the kids be examined at the hospital. I don't care about Tommy and Julius. There's been utterly no development on screen beyond "we are so hot for each other and its weird".

Hehehe maybe. Matt seems happy to not even mention the show or the birth of his latest grandchild so I think both sides are a little pissed but maybe this will help. :D

Oh I have no doubt in my mind that Matt has never once ever seriously considered his sons as anything other than farm hands and people to order about. But he's certainly said publicly on episodes of this show that he wants to pass the farm down to one of the kids and create a legacy. While you and I and other viewers are clever enough to see that Matt was shining everyone on about that, the twins apparently did believe their dad. Its not a great look. Right up there with telling the world you want one of your kids to take over the family business for years and not meaning it in the slightest. Actions do have consequences. Were they supposed to act like Grandpa Matt and Chacha are in their good graces? Maybe the situation raised the blinders that have been on for so long? I mean, is Matt really boo hoo hooing here? He's laughing to the camera over how wrong Zach is and in other previews he's proudly stating he doesn't care if his kids hate him over his choices. I mean, this is what happens when your kids hate you - you lose free and easy access to the grandkids. Is it shitty on their part? Yes. Is Matt a purely innocent victim here? Gosh, I don't think so.

For the record as soon as Athena said Jonah was going away for the rest of his life, I am now absolutely certain he will be killing people on this episode in multiple episodes. Also I don't hate Eddie at all but the side story was blah.

Any member of that family who thinks Matt will "give them a deal" is an idiot.

I don't recall either son making offers. I know I've been pretty up front in stating Matt shouldn't sell below market value. Why is Amy greedy and not making the family happy for doing the same? eta - also I know Amy is considered to be selfish etc by some but I can't see her intentionally jacking the price of property to get more profit from one of her kids. She might fuck Matt over that way although that would be displaying more smarts than I think she has, but one of the kids? Can't see it.

Tori's been relatively active on her instagram.