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That's the point of acting though. Stephen is married with a kid, Oliver is not. She's supposed to be Laurel and he's Oliver. Acting on feelings outside of the show is what is wrong. When you are acting you are playing different people, if she can't do that she's in the wrong business. That also explains why her "acting" is so off. She is pretty much saying she can't do her job. All the other actresses that have worked with Stephen are able to work with a fictional character and create the chemistry needed to show their characters wanting to kiss Oliver. Caity Lotz talked about how her and Stephen have become good friends and it was weird having to kiss him. She was talking about the kiss in ep 13. Even though it came out of nowhere, I thought it was a pretty hot kiss. She's new to acting was able to get over the hurdle of kissing a married guy she's friends with, because it's called ACTING. They were not Caity and Stephen kissing, they were Sara and Oliver kissing.

I don't think it's that Cassidy doesn't get along with the cast but that she doesn't get along with them that well. Everyone else seem to like each other and have fun hanging out even when they aren't shooting episodes. (at least it appears that way from the pics and vids they post with each other). The pics with Cassidy (that just started towards the end of the season) are only when they are on set. I'm not saying every cast needs to be besties but the one's that are also show on screen.

That's how I looked at Sara/Oliver, they were drawn together because of their shared darkness, shared pain, they felt safe with each other because they didn't have to hide. Long term wise it wouldn't work, but I took it as they both thought they were too damaged to be with anyone good so they got with someone just like them. We also have to take into account Sara's last relationship, which was with the daughter of her assassin master that's like an extreme version of dating your boss's kid. To me it looks like her and Oliver are just trying to find somewhere to belong. It made sense that they thought it was with each other.

I think it's because they are dead set on their original plans that will stick with it no matter how stupid and contrived it will be to arrive there. You'd think since the How I Met Your Mother debacle, they'd see that it doesn't always work out so well. You have to be willing to change if it's just not working out the way you'd hope. They keep forcing Laurel into the spotlight in the hopes that people will suddenly love her. It's been 46 episodes and Laurel is still as hated as ever with an occasional praise for not being the ball of suck she usually is. Which is not much of compliment.

Most of the time I see it's just because of the characters names and how they were together in the comics. I don't see many people talking about the amazing chemistry between the actors. If they had amazing chemistry it would've helped immensely. They don't even have a friendship chemistry. When Laurel and Oliver are in a room together, that's all it is two people in a room. Sara and Oliver didn't have much of a romantic chemistry but I could see they care about one another. I actually think the names should've been switched. Caity should be playing Dinah Lance who went on the boat with Oliver, then came back as the Black Canary. Cassidy's Sara could've been the disapproving older sister that never liked Oliver and blamed him for the death of her sister. She could've then seen how much his experiences had changed him. She could've developed feelings for him then Dinah returned from the dead and Oliver went back to her. It still would've been sister swapping but in a completely different context. They both thought Dinah died, but Oliver never stopped loving her so when she came back he couldn't deny his feelings for her. They also could've realized that they were both too damaged to be in a relationship and decided to just be crime fighting partners. The best plus side would be no one would have to worry all season about Dinah dying so someone less deserving can take her place.

Then we can find out that Nyssa resurrected Sara in the Lazarus pits, she comes back to put her sister behind bars and reclaim her name. There we go problem solved, it pleases everyone, Laurel gets to be BC to for the die hard Laurel has the right name fans, the fans of Laurel going evil get to see that and the Sara fans get to keep Sara as the true Black Canary.

I'm surprised they didn't just say "Embrace Laurel"

The thing with that is sometimes just the tone of your voice changes what you are saying. Something like "Why do they get to go and not me?" can sound whiny, arrogant, bitchy or just a simple question depending on how it's delivered. I don't know if it's in the script or it's just Cassidy, but the tone of Laurel's voice comes across more bitchy and arrogant than nice and respectful.

From what they've shown us of the Lance family, it's no wonder Sara has such an inferiority complex. She never thinks she's good enough. She can run into a burning building to save a child and her father will cheer on Laurel for standing on the street with the girls family. Of course I also got the feeling that Laurel was always competing with Sara to be the favorite child while Sara wasn't even playing. But by doing that the parents started worrying more about their younger daughter and paying less attention to Laurel.

Who said anything about a lead character having to be bubbly and funny? Their personality could be dark and depressing, bubbly and funny or just being general badass. That doesn't matter, what matters is their importance to the show as whole. They shouldn't be missing multiple episodes and not be missed. Felicity is not the lead female, but it feels like she is or should be. Sara was billed as guest character all season. Laurel is billed as the lead female. Her name is right after Stephen's. But as others and I have said, we can delete Laurel's scenes and it would not have done anything to the narrative. Which should never be the case of one of your leads.

The writers write for Laurel so it is Laurel. I did say what she said to Sara is uplifting, but doesn't mean much since she doesn't the know the real reason Sara is upset. So her words have empty meaning behind it. Felicity's speech to Oliver meant more because she knows the man he was in the past and she knows the man he is now. A lot of Laurel's lines can be said differently to make the scene better but that's not how they choose to go. So that is Laurel character we are being presented with. And most of the time she comes across as very unlikable or completely unnecessary. They said they were going to fix her this season and imo they haven't. The producers, writers and executives are aware Laurel's not liked, so it's more then just a few disgruntled internet fans. It was enough for them to notice and acknowledge. But obviously not understand the reason she's not well liked. The biggest issue for me is I don't like Laurel and I don't want her replacing the characters I do like which seems to be what they plan on doing. Sara dying so she can become BC makes very little sense and is not something I want to see. So for that I can't bring myself to enjoy a character that is going to force another character out. So yes, it is the writers fault for thinking that bringing in Sara, making her an awesome female character just to be a place holder for a character that is not well liked was a dumb move on their part. I can't see Laurel and Lois as the same because Laurel was the one there from the beginning. Lois came in the third or fourth season I forgot which one. So she was the new character, much like Sara. She was the one that had to work their way into the established cast and audience. Laurel is more the Lana, the character we're supposed to like but don't because the way they write the character.

Laurel doesn't know the things she's done though. She just found that Sara runs around town fighting crime in a costume like 2 weeks ago. That's why I felt that Laurel's speech while uplifting to hear doesn't mean much since she knows nothing about what Sara's actually going through. All she knows is Sara has a bunch of scars (which means that all this time Sara's been back she never bothered to ask her about what happened) and that she's a vigilante. She doesn't know about Sara helping torture men with a mad scientist, that Sara was willing to strap a bomb to man so he can blow up another man and the biggest thing she has no clue that Sara was a killer for hire. Sara was depressed about being a killer. Since Laurel does not have that important information of course she's going to tell Sara she's a good person. So having someone that doesn't know that say nice things isn't going to mean much.

I don't think there are any spoilers about it, it's all speculation. My thing is if they still plan on giving Sara's alter ego to Laurel then I'd rather they do it now. I can't watch another season with Sara only to have her die at the end of that one. Also if they do kill her she better go out like a hero, like being the one to kill Slade or stop a bunch of the Mirikuru soldiers. No dying to save Laurel.

Marvel does have a few tv shows in the works besides Agents of Shield. They greenlit Agent Carter about Captain America's former girlfriend, Then I think Netflix has Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage. All of those shows will co-exist with the cinematic universe.

Why would she not think that? Everything is about her. Then she didn't even acknowledge them after that. She only told Oliver to save the city. Sara acknowledged Team Arrow as whole. She even told them that they made quite a team and she was happy Oliver had them in his life. When Oliver needed help she rallied up the team of Felicity, Diggle and Roy to help her. She never questioned that they couldn't do it.

That's exactly it, Laurel doesn't know a thing about Sara. Ta-Er al-Asfer (however it's spelled) is Sara's assassin name. That's the name she used to kill people. So yes, Laurel, Sara can take a beautiful name do horrible things with it. To take a line from a far superior show. "You know nothing Laurel Lance"

I doubt Felicity's dying. The show wouldn't be stupid enough to get rid of EBR. EBR tweeted to Colton about seeing him next season. That sounds like confirmation she's in season 3 to me.

I loved that scene of Nyssa picking up Isabel, removing her silly looking helmet so Sara can deliver the killing blow. I'm guessing that's going to show how well Sara and Nyssa worked as assassin partners. But what I really love is that other LOA guy just standing in the background just watching them.

Laurel's hated because she's a useless character. If you removed her scenes nothing would be missing from the narrative and the show would actually be better. The few episodes she wasn't in, she wasn't missed at all.

Just because you break up someone doesn't mean you suddenly stop loving them. What Slade knows is that Oliver choose Sara over his girlfriend Laurel and Oliver choose Sara over his girlfriend Shado. That looks like Oliver always chooses Sara. So that's who Slade should choose.

I think Thea makes the most sense as the one Oliver loves the most, she's his family. While friends and lovers are close to you, it's your family that's been there the whole time. Plus she's the one most innocent in all of this. Losing his entire family would destroy Oliver, they were the ones he was trying to get back too. As for Laurel, Oliver did carry around her picture on the island but he told Slade he cheated on her with Sara. Then Slade meets Sara and Oliver chooses to save her over Shado, then he sees them together in the present. To most Sara would look like one Oliver always chooses. That's why I'm hoping the final battle is just Arrow, Canary and Deathstroke in Starling City juxtaposed with Oliver, Sara and Slade on the Amazo. With a different outcome instead of Sara "dying" it's Slade. Because the heroes really need a win to make this depressing season worth it. We don't need another season of dark depressed Oliver, they need to start working in Green Arrow and Black Canary's humor from the comics.

What's funny is that's how I viewed Laurel last season as well. She was whatever Laurel they needed for the plot. She wasn't a fully fleshed out character in season 1 and she's even less of one now. Which I really didn't think was possible.

Well all she has to do is take the outfit off her sister's corpse, put it on and everyone will think she did all those heroic things. So she gets to be an instant super hero!

That would still make me stop watching the show. I don't want Laurel given magical super powers just so they can make her special or needed. The most important thing they needed to do was make her likable and they have failed miserably. I also want Mirakuru gone and never talked about again. I hate that storyline, so giving it to Laurel will not make me like her or her storyline. I want Laurel gone, she doesn't have to die just go to Europe or somewhere far away and is never heard from again. That would make me happy and I would continue watching the show. I'm pretty much out after the finale if Laurel is still around.

I wish that was the case but I don't think Cassidy would be excited about getting fired from her job. So the chances of that are slim to none. Sara has a much better chance of dying in the finale.