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Exactly. I remember wondering in the first season if there was meta-commentary on how we view women who feel trapped in abusive situations with contempt because why doesn't she just leave? Because we don't see all the internal supporting mechansms that would enable that have been destroyed over time by this guy. In Allison's case, I wonder if part of it is that she feels she's been robbed by Kevin, and yes she could cut her losses and take off, but she has a need to recoup some of her losses somehow. That's very common, for everyone not just emotionally abused domestic partners. ETA: didn't Kevin say something in this episode about always getting what he wants? Learned helplessness is real, yo.

I wonder if, as people were speculating last season, Kevin is actually much more abusive to her "offstage." We don't know if he's the one who stole that card, or if he unwittingly obtained stolen goods, but if it's the former that would be a clue that he is much less "oblivious man-child" and more "devious bastard" than he appears. Maybe we'll find out that he has told Allison "if you leave me, if you tell anyone, I will kill you." Maybe that's why she feels Kevin can't find her if she leaves, and has to fake her death to make that happen. ETA: I'd have to rewatch, but is Allison more deferential to Kevin when they're alone? Does she only get smart-mouthed when it's "safe" i.e. when someone else is around? Have we seen her not covered in clothes head-to-toe? Have we seen bruises that no one calls attention to, so we don't really register them?

I don't like her. I used to think it was because she was super ensign, always the smartest, the best fighter, always winning. Like Burnham. But lately she's been fallible, and I still don't like her. She's a selfish asshole. Throwing and breaking things, always yelling at everyone when she doesn't get her way. She's a tantrum-prone child in an adult body and that is never attractive. Her parents have done her no favours protecting her from consequences. Yes she's super talented, but there should be a limit on how long someone gets second, third, fourth, etc. chances to come into their potential at the risk of harming others. We'll see if being under Jack's purview will make any noticeable difference, but I have strong doubts. If they really want her to learn how to be a mature and responsible Starfleet officer, she should be transferred to a completely different ship. Play by the Trek universe's rules, show. Or maybe she should just go be a ranger with Seven. That seems more her style.

From my vantage point, they were both pretty lazy on the lipsync. An argument could be made either way. This is pretty specific. I think someone's working through some trauma lol

That superqueen mini-challenge was one of the most boring ones I've ever watched. Someone please explain to me the motivation behind Jada's competition armour, because I don't get it.

A couple of observations on episode 3: It dragged on forever! That evaluation section was interminable. The music over that section and the judging was distractingly loud. Sometimes I couldn't even hear them talking. I don't remember it being that bad in the first two episodes. Was it softer then, or did it just seem louder because it was just never-ending?

Not to mention that's how Neil himself treats Patty. Letting her basically be his substitute mom while he lives life as a man-child. Let's face it, Patty allows this over and over.

Ha, I can't explain why but I really like her. Maybe I'm a robot too

Except now I know how it ends. :(

IIRC, the murder aspect came up after she found out that he blew all their savings, most (if not all) of which was contributed by her, and a divorce would leave her penniless and at a huge disadvantage as a blue-collar woman with little education. This left her feeling almost violated by him, and I guess she then thought that she would at least get some sort of insurance payout if he died, which he pretty much deserved for what she felt was the theft of her life, past present and future. They both expected to support each other in having a good life when they got married, but so far only he has benefitted. Now she thinks it's her turn.

Oh damn, with so much quality television, I hadn't got around to watching that yet. This article posits that the ice cream represents "the game." With an interesting interpretation of 510. https://screenrant.com/better-call-saul-mint-chocolate-chip-ice-cream-meaning/

I think Gisele is my favourite at the moment.

I reconcile it thus: Jimmy wanted to make himself the criminal lawyer of choice Jimmy was uncomfortable with the idea of causing physical harm to people Jimmy was an exceptional judge of character (that's why he was so good at scamming) Jimmy was careful to suggest Belize to people he knew would reject it This way, he enhances his slimy reputation without being responsible for hurting anyone.

The box is so old that it must be from his childhood. They stopped making metal boxes for bandaids ages ago. It must be, whether we saw it, or just imagine we did.

I may have mentioned this before, but I happen to be catching up on the main show's season 11, where Brooke competed, so it's top of mind again. Does Brooke remind anyone else of Scott Thompson?

Jimmy would agree with you, since those were the highlights of his confession (along with taking credit for WW's success lol so sweet) Don't forget the many flavours of Viktor St. Clair! I think it's telling that, with all his personas, and with the show title referencing Saul, at the end of it all most of us are calling him Jimmy. That's the version of himself that we want him to remain.

Interesting callbacks. Apparently G&G said that when BCS wrapped up we'd look at BB in a new light. I know I'll be looking at Saul in a new light. Both of the examples above seem, on the surface, to be a slimy lawyer manipulating human emotions. But I'm going to be looking at it now as Saul still having some of the kinder motivations of Jimmy, even if he does also use them to his advantage, Gene was at the edge, a breath away from becoming irredeemable. He clawed his way back to Saul, and there he rediscovered Jimmy. I've said it before, I found the character parallelism established in the finale to be breathtaking. S1 to final minutes of 6.12: Jimmy --> Saul --> Gene 6.13: Gene --> Saul --> Jimmy That's an epic journey that no other character made, in either show. Beautiful.

This forum needs a "Agree to disagree" reaction ;)

Jiggly looked great. I missed the beginning of that child abuse revelation? Who was the abuser, family, schoolmates? I started this franchise with Canada (my own country), then I watched UK v the World (a Canadian queen was on that one). Since then I've been catching up on earlier seasons of the US versions. Is it my imagination or are the queens and judges (especially the main judge) significantly harsher than on other versions?

I remember in the scene when Kim was leaving, Jimmy was rattling off a few of her clients and saying, "what about them, they need you." Maybe that was wholly self-serving, since he didn't want her to leave, but it struck me that he really listened to her when she talked about her clients, he stored that stuff in his long-term memory, which we really only do when we care. Now maybe it was just because he cared about her, but I like to think he also cared about them. There was a part of him that the plight of those clients resonated with. So I think he would genuinely want to help fellow inmates who needed legal advice, especially those he felt were generally good people. The finale was so good that I moved from liking Gene to hating him. But by the end, when Jimmy moved back into his forebrain, I liked him again. But I'm not convinced that he would not re-offend if he got out.

As long as you can help them land a bigger fish

Didn't Jimmy do (smokeless) finger guns when he told kim about his name change? He did it first, I'm pretty sure. It occurs to me that one of the blessings of this ending with Jimmy doing a life sentence is that, should the team ever decide they want to do a new show, they could come back to it at anytime. It could be set in present day, any of the still living characters could come and go, and there is so much story and character potential in a series with someone like Jimmy in prison.

Yeah she was in my top 3-5 I think.

Nice observation, Saul got his over Walt in the end. It's the only inside statement in the official record. I like it.

I like to think of Jimmy's parting finger guns as him saying "don't worry about me, I'll be alright."