Which is one of the many reasons I enjoy Rachel. Sure, she will present the grim story, but she is always engaging to me. Hayes is okay in certain areas. Sometimes he is good at others, but sometimes he is a bit much to engage into. However, when it comes to Chris Coumo, he will do these scenarios I don't agree with and sometimes have very opinionated guests on his show. Not the doctors or frontline workers, but when a guest I know about or just read about comes on the show, I have to walk out. My parents are big Coumo fans, but there are moments he could annoy me than Hayes. I know Rachel has her peccadillos, but it is not annoying as Chris. Chris could be a bit much sometimes.