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Yes. You said it better than I did. Jensen may have been complimenting him but I find it sad that Berens didn't understand the Dean/Mary dynamic enough to have intentionally written a scene that pulled the whole year together. So I guess I'm the one calling out Berens a little.

Of course he didn't call out a writer. Watch the panel.

I see you added part 3. Thank you very much!!

Did you see Jensen's solo panel part 2 where he said Berens didn't have a clue how defining the Mary scene was for Dean's character? Really scary that when these writers give us the amazing stuff, its by accident. We have known for a long time that Jensen often takes what he is given and turns it into Emmy worthy stuff. The other example that comes to mind is how he changed the delivery for the scene with God.

And I respect that you view some things differently than I do. We're good.

Personally I go with what the show shows or tells me but to each his own. The show told me they didn't have the resources so until they retcon that one :)

Me too! LOL

This!!!!!

LOL. OK, I'll go with that. Hurts my brain less.

I don't follow their timeline. I understand the three week jump. But without the extra time jump, that would put Dean starting the job looking like he been mugged. My brain isn't working. Somebody explain the timeline to me they have.

I buy a few days or a week before somebody healed him but it would need to be more than a month or more for Dean to heal naturally and look like he did in the next episode. Deep severe bruising fades very very slowly. And the show usually gives us something if there is a time jump of that kind of length. Just my head Canon. Thanks for the visual. That would have taken more than a couple weeks to do naturally.

+1

Didn't Dabb say they were wrapping up the BMoL storyline? Unsure here.

That's a possibility.

All those things were inexplicable to me too. Sam calling Gadreel Dean's friend shocked me. There was no foundation for that statement. It should have been talked about as more like working with Crowley. You do it when you have to.

That severe of injuries would have taken many weeks to heal completely. Dean isnt even showing old bruising in the next episode. IMO, someone healed him but it wasn't Cas so Zach is the logical choice

LOL

I just went with what the show told us so I guess it's one of those agree to disagree things. IMO they are gone just like the Steins. Never to be seen again.

I also took it as he wasn't allowed to heal Dean without being given expressed permission each time and that Zach did it before putting him into It's a Wonderful Life

You won't get an argument from me on any of that. I did notice though that in this episode where they were killing humans, Jody killed Hess and Ketch killed torture lady. I think the Show didn't want us seeing either Sam or Dean killing a human woman even if they were horrible human beings. Then again, maybe I read to much into it :) Kind of par for the course though. Sam never confronted Luci/Cas in any way. Just let him use Sam's room for his little hissy fit. I really cringed at the whole teenager vibe coming of Lucifer/Cas that episode. Not funny to me.

I have a similar story. Channel surfing and stopping at a Dean Winchester magic moment. I started Netflix that day. Went thru all 8 seasons in a few weeks ( didn't get a lot of other stuff done I should have) and have been watching live since premier of 9. I currently own BluRay, DVD, and digital of all the previous seasons. I will probably buy the BluRay for 12 just for Regarding Dean and the amazing scenes like the one in Mary's head. SPN is the first and only show I even own on DVD. I have never been into a show enough to buy the DVDs before SPN. Yeah, I agree. But the real Dean still manages to peek thru sometimes.

Posted above but I'll put it here too. SAM: We wanted the book because that's where your power comes from. See, our family business is putting guys like you out of business. ELDON: Oh. It's impressive. Let me tell you about my family business. You're in way over your heads. The family is vast . . . spread over the world. And that power that you mentioned doesn't come from the book. It comes from intelligence and will. The book facilitates. Stock market dive, recession, 9/11 . . . any of them ring a bell? Arab spring. Didn't even break a sweat. SAM: Okay. Why? ELDON: Well, you got to be in it to win it, boys. You see, chaos breeds fear. Fear breeds panic, and panic breeds desperation, and there's always profit to be made from desperation. You make a big enough mess, has to get cleaned up. And we've been in the fix-it business for 1,000 years, and business has never been better. (Sam’s phone starts vibrating. Cas is calling) Now, for the last 80 years, we haven't had the book. With the book, we're unstoppable.

SAM: We wanted the book because that's where your power comes from. See, our family business is putting guys like you out of business. ELDON: Oh. It's impressive. Let me tell you about my family business. You're in way over your heads. The family is vast . . . spread over the world. And that power that you mentioned doesn't come from the book. It comes from intelligence and will. The book facilitates. Stock market dive, recession, 9/11 . . . any of them ring a bell? Arab spring. Didn't even break a sweat. SAM: Okay. Why? ELDON: Well, you got to be in it to win it, boys. You see, chaos breeds fear. Fear breeds panic, and panic breeds desperation, and there's always profit to be made from desperation. You make a big enough mess, has to get cleaned up. And we've been in the fix-it business for 1,000 years, and business has never been better. (Sam’s phone starts vibrating. Cas is calling) Now, for the last 80 years, we haven't had the book. With the book, we're unstoppable.

I thought Stein talked about how they were still powerful around the world but would be even more powerful with the book. I remember at the time of the broadcast thinking so now the writers are just going to ignore the powerful international part if this historied organization because S&D took care of the American branch and Dean doesn't like to fly?

Part of Steins big speech was the American Steins were part of a large powerful international family. They didn't even originate in America if I remember correctly.