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It wasn't for me. Hell I had a crush on Harrison Ford when I was 12(and he was 40). Hot is hot, age never bothered me. :)

No but Happy Birthday Dean Winchester trended for a while yesterday. :) Let's hope they noticed that at least.

Or Death was just doing his normal business. Maybe that guy was mean to die at that moment from an anyuerism or heart attack or something and maybe the restaurant full of people was meant to die from carbon monoxide or mass poisoning. And we all remember how well that turned out for everyone? (Personally I kind of liked the idea of Dean in space. :)

Oh my goodness she was the "near dead" girl in What is and What Should Never Be! (I assume the girl that was hanging next to Dean).

I'm pretty sure at least half of them are the Jensen haters pretending they don't know who he is.

I think so long as Michael is in the freezer he can't see or hear anything else. (Unless its loud enough to be heard through the doors and wall.

Woo Hoo Awesome! Can't wait!

Maybe you can just give him a human name? Sometimes those end up being really sweet, just because they are unexpected. Or name him after Chris Evan's dog, Dodger, that is one cuddly dog. :)

That wasn't really my point. Common sense it may be, but that's now how it would have been handled in show or in fandom IMO, going by previous multiple years of experience. We'd get the show telling us, IMO, Dean was wrong for not trusting Sam and not letting Sam do what he wanted, being controlling and bossy and mean. Other characters would agree with this viewpoint about Dean's oppression of poor poor Sam. We'd most likely get an apology from Dean at some point about how he was so wrong for not trusting Sam completely and utterly. And we'd get certain vocal portions of fandom agreeing and writing diatribes about how abusive and controlling Dean is. As such, I'm quite fine with Sam not putting Dean on a leash(though I'm sure it will all be still be couched in terms in Sam's favor, which IMO it wouldn't be if the shoe was on the other foot)

Answering in the Bitter Speculation thread

I do wish they wouldn't have made Dean the one to instigate the "two-fer", I get so tired of him chasing after people who don't give a damn about him, even if it partly an excuse to do something else. Or that they don't have Dean doing anything to research this - BUT I'm pretty sure they would have read the bible years ago, including the apocrypha and stuff, when they were first dealing with angels(never mind research on demons who are mentioned from time to time). I mean as I recall Dean even figured out how to solve um...I think was episode 5.2(the one with War) because of he remembered something from the Bible. I suppose it's because he got the Death of Dean Winchester(Without Michael Destroying the World)book and knows how it ends so figures that part of it is mostly busy work but still I hate how they've even taken so much of the research away from him. He's left to swing around like some useless additional limb.

IMO, If it was vice versa and it was Sam in that position, Sam would get pissed off if Dean wanted to "keep an eye on him" and treating him like a child and you'd get all sorts of fans calling Dean controlling and mean for not trusting Sam, so Sam can lump it in that regard.

He probably felt comfortable with Donnie and Marie, maybe they were friendly to him before the show started and it put him at ease.

The top 4 or 5 what?

Jesus, he is beautiful. I wonder why they so often choose the "moody" still photos for him, he's got such a gorgeous, traffic stopping smile.

Sorry should have clarified, I mean who posted the video originally. Did that tweeter take part in the same tough mudder or are they reposting someone else's video.

I know Dean killed a bunch of people who were going to kill him "ooh oh Dean's so dark", Sam and Cas are doing things as bad or worse than him "oh oh someone hold my pearls, Dean's out of control!" It was so ridiculous. Jensen is definitely the best actor on the show, because he can pretty much do it all and he has gravitas. He's believable. And his ability with body language and nuanced facial expressions(in a second somehow he can convey a complex mix of emotions, this is why he has depth even though the writing has been lacking for years)

Where is that originally from?

Same, I've said since the beginning of the show that Jensen just gives Dean more depth. Right from the start Dean felt like he had a life lived behind him and it was one of the major things that drew people to the show, it wasn't so much that wanted to know what kind of world Sam had run away from so much as they wanted to know the world Dean lived in(it may not sound that different but it is), which was one of the early accidental tensions in the writing. Sam was the supposed to be the point of view figure whose eyes we saw that world through, where we discovered it, but by and large Dean was the character who made the world seem real so that POV thing didn't really work because for whatever reason Jensen as an actor just seemed better at it than Jared it. The audience wanted to know what shaped him, what made him like he was, what this world on the fringes(ah the good old days when it felt like hunting was a shadowy dangerous fringe world rather than "The Hunting Army Wants You! You Too Can Be a Hero!"). Alot of what was discussed above was practically handed to Sam to make him sympathetic, give him excuse after excuse for insensitive behavior or even outright say he was absolutely right, and if it didn't work, I wouldn't necessarily put all the blame on the writers, though they do mostly suck at this point. I don't think ANY character EVER in the history of the show has ever called out Sam on his behavior towards Dean. I really don't. Dean has been called out multiple times, often for stuff that he doesn't deserve to be called out on. Because Sam is supposed to be Captain Empathy(which he's never really convincingly conveyed) so of course you aren't supposed to think he's anything but understanding and long suffering in his behavior towards Dean. Sam doesn't get called out because IMO the writers have never believed he should be, no matter how awful or insensitive or condescending he is towards Dean, they don't actually seem to realize that Sam's behavior comes across that way.

I'm not quite sure which you're referring to here? The EMF meter scene? Because if so, given that was like the 4th episode of the show, is it out of character? Sam had already been condescending and yes I think it fit quite well with the level of condescending he'd showed thus far. And as for Dean? How was it out of character for Dean, again 4th episode of the show and Dean had already shown he was actually sensitive, a few times already. The 4th episode of the first season pretty much anything is in character at that point. It's manipulative to give insight into characters you are just getting to know by showing how they react to things? Dean's EMF meter was no less technologically advanced because it was homemade, the only thing it might have been missing was a fancy screen, which would be difficult to fabricate in his situation, but everything else was every bit as technologically advanced as one you'd buy in a store. And he made it. That's not old fashioned, that's like saying because Tony Stark was able to build the first Iron Man suit "in a cave, with a box of scraps!!"(sorry it's a funny line--TMI myself, I actually can't stand Tony Stark, like at all--I will not argue this, I'm firm on this point LOL) - he's an old fashioned kind of dude without much interest in technology. It wasn't pretty but it worked. He made due with what he had. The very fact that Dean was able to build it himself, out of a walkman(and without any sort of fancy education or you know, Electrical apprenticeship) shows that Dean was interested in technology, interested in how it worked and interested enough to make something with what he basically had laying around because he didn't have money to do otherwise. It's reaching to say that Dean is somehow against using new or better equipment for hunting and even more that he wouldn't even THINK of it, which is blatantly untrue because he's "thought of it" before, because somehow because he doesn't want an iPod in his car it means he's some sort of Luddite.

Weird to pick this out of all the things to respond to, I know. :) But I think that's really entirely different. I mean that's very specific and also has nothing to do with HUNTING, which is exactly what I was talking about - innovation in hunting techniques. I happen to frequent a music board with a lot of audiophiles(I'm not one of them, I just go there for occasionally discussing bands I like:)) and they still go on about compression levels and the loudness wars, etc. Me personally I can't tell the difference between a lightly compressed and heavily compressed recording but it's something that really affects some people's ability to enjoy listening to music, it literally, I guess a way to describe it, is makes their ears tires. It becomes physically uncomfortable for them to listen to highly compressed music for long periods of time. So IF Dean enjoyed analog(vinyl) more than digital(CD) - which we don't actually know - he wouldn't be alone and it wouldn't have anything to do with being against innovation. Not all innovations are for the best and not all of them are for everybody. That said, Dean's never been shown to be against listening to digital music outside of his car - I remember one of the earlier cell phones he had was one that was popular at the time for listening to music on(the LG "Chocolate" - they had different names depending on the color) and it was specifically marketed as a phone/mp3 hybrid type of thing, it came out in 2006(right around the time Season 2 started filming). So if he didn't want an "iPod" in Baby, it doesn't have much to do with innovation IMO and more to do with his connection to Baby specifically. She's a classic and he prefers to keep her that way.

Same. There was no need at all for "Leader Sam" especially not at the expense of Dean, who has always been a natural leader and still is, which is completely unacknowledge while propping up Sam with all these "you're a natural"/"you're born to do it" speeches. No he wasn't and he's not that good at it frankly(he's good because the writers say so, not because he's shown any real leadership ability IMO). They created a whole unnatural thing just so they could say "hey look at what an awesome better than Dean has ever been leader Sam is" - those "AU hunters" who have zero reason for doing it or for following "Chief". And Sam STILL doesn't come across as a better leader because he doesn't project leadership, either you have or you don't and he doesn't. And Dean wouldn't think of body cams? That's absolutely untrue. That's another thing, somehow they've managed to forget (and make a lot of fans forgot apparently) that Dean is VERY tech savvy and ALWAYS has been. He has NEVER ever been against innovation(except when they want to prop up Sam) and in fact has been responsible for a good part of that innovation himself(does everyone forget that they didn't use rock salt rifles before Sam left for college? I believe it was brought up in Hookman maybe? That was DEAN's idea, Dean built an EMF from a walkman(which Sam mocked) and made an EMP "bomb" to erase the Ghost Chasers hard drives, his knowledge of complicated security systems and getting around them and learned quite a few great hacking tricks from Frank in very short order, etc, etc not to mention his quick and ready knowledge of herbs and plants as well as mind for noticing and remembering symbols - all very definitely skills and talents Dean has had which somehow end up well virtually not there anymore, along with his leadership). What Dean wouldn't do is send out a bunch of "strangers in a strange land" on hunts in the first place within practically days of arriving, which SHOULD be a disaster waiting to happen, only that would make Chief Sam look bad, so it hasn't been. And if Dean did decide they were ready, what Dean would do is delegate, he'd give the job of watching bodycams to someone else - if Sam was really better organized he wouldn't have been running himself ragged doing everything rather than delegating(only then all the AU hunters conveniently "disappear" again because Sam having to deal with that while most of this other stuff has been going on would make him look bad most likely because he should not be able to do a good job of it) so they have them conveniently suddenly are not around to be dealt with, until they can show how "Sam's AU Hunter Army" save the day in the next episode and then suddenly oh look there they are all thanks to Chief Sam, the "natural leader"!

Exactly, for the "arrogance to be their downfall" trope to work, they actually have to have a decent reason to be arrogant, they have to be shown as a genuine threat. NONE of which Michael has been shown to be. The previously mentioned Zachariah showed himself to be more of a threat back in Season 4 than Michael has shown himself to be. It's all been hot air, his threats relatively easily defeated, himself easily defeated and or captured time.

IMO it's just a way to keep Dean from involved going forward, it's "too dangerous" because Michael could take him over. That "breathing room" for other characters Dabb seems to think he needs to keep Dean as far away from the picture as possible to have. It's still silly and disappointing to have Michael just get captured like that. He's so powerful except he's not.

Goddamn he's beautiful.(And very unDeanlike)