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As much as I am convinced Jensen wanted to move on, I think that Blind is about Stephen Amell. Who knows maybe Ausiello was referring to both! He can be cagey that way. Ausiello typically does reveal the person(s) in question.

Dammit, @gonzosgirrl

OMG that's fantastic! His eyes are as sparkly as his crown! LOVE IT!

Hmm interesting looking through those pics

I thought they walked that back when Chuck said that the Mark enhanced more of what he already was so the nature v nurture was in play at that point. That said your point about them not knowing nor following their own Canon stands LOL

OMG this would really be incredible. I would accept this ending.

It's funny. I was looking back through the tread and I had posted a couple of years ago about liking the idea of a spinoff with Samuel Colt and cowboy hunters and it would follow the Colts path back to the present but even the Colt is dead now. So much for that idea!

That would also explain why Jared couldn't handle that scene.

I never heard that. Glass wrote Bad Boys which I thought was quite sympathetic to Dean. Has he written other eps that were bad for Dean?

I don't want a spin-off at all. I want it to be self contained which makes it legendary. I certainly don't want anything like Legacies is to The Originals nor even a prequel. I want it to stand on its own as a unique and rare institution. One epic story about The Winchester Brothers and those around them. I'm trying to think if a show that did that and only Gunsmoke comes to mind and it's considered a classic. Maybe Bonanza. Dallas would have been that if they hadn't done the reboot. However, that had JR, Sue Ellen, and Bobby and despite it having JR'S and Bobby's children(who the actor playing John Ross was fantastic and it was still about him and those three until Larry Hagman passed away. Then the producer took it a completely different direction and it was no longer about the Ewings and it sucked and went belly up. I don't want that to happen with Supernatural. I want it to stand out like Buffy and Angel. Let Dabb write his comics which I can ignore like I did with Angel. Let it end with Dean and Sam and their family, both blood and found.

https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1109774817530662912?s=19

Not necessarily, yet. I hope... :/

I think it's always been a family drama disguised as a fantasy/sci-fi show. And that in and of itself is not a bad thing. To me, there is a sweet spot of drama vs soap opera, and IMO up to s12, I think the show did drama /borderline soap without going over the line, mostly well with some missteps in s6 and s8. I didn't find the drama overall to be on the soap level but was born out the decisions the boys made, so I was okay with it. Now, I do think since s12 it became way more soapy, with trying to set up Wayward Sisters and the intro of Jack. Too much contrived soapiness that required them to ignore the past willfully for that soapy quality. My hope is they find a good solid mytharc story that keeps TFW in front (not TFW2. 0) and not because they make Evil!Jack the center. That will piss me off. I think it would be cool if we get something about the Books of Death and TFW1.0 read their fates and must decide if they accept them or attempt to change them as the final act. I think it would be a shame to lose what was set up in Advanced Thanatology.

Nice tribute to SPN from Danielle Turchiano. https://variety.com/2019/tv/columns/supernatural-season-15-goodbye-journalism-career-column-1203170725/#respond

Right now, as weird as it sounds, my personal finale is Regarding Dean. That closing montage felt like an in memorium moment than just fun.

I don't think Billie will send them to the Empty at this point. I feel like the Empty Threat (heh) is now for Castiel. Of course, I think the Empty idea has evolved. I don't think it was really for dead angels and demons when it was introduced. I think it was only when they "killed" Castiel and needed to find a way to bring him back, they decided to use the empty as the final resting place for angels and demons. I actually would be okay if the boys died and that was it. That we don't find out where they went. Of course, even if they did go to Heaven or Hell or the Empty there are ways to get them out. They have enemies in all three realms, and enemies in Purgatory as well. At this point, I think the most peace they could have is to simple stop existing in any form at all. I would prefer their essences die with them and they only live on via the Winchester Gospels. For me that would be the best way to end them. because they wouldn't be worried about anyone being able to make deals to get them out of wherever they go, or to be used by anyone, or coming back wrong in some way that makes them a threat to any universe. To me, they would be truly at peace then.

moved to spn ending

For me, the dangers with Kripke coming back is that both characters have changed so much, that to bring them back to where they started, for me, doesn't work. And after Swan Song, I'm not sure I trust him unless he goes back to his original ending of the boys in the Cage together which I don't know about. Dabb wrote Dark Side if the Moon, so Heaven is possible, but I don't know if Sam, and Dean, especially, wants Memorex Heaven. As for Castiel, I think bringing Kripke back would actually be good for Castiel who largely fared well under him and who is also Krpike's creation. I don't see a series finale without Cas or at least his fate would be revealed in the penultimate series episode.

Peace for them could be death. Like actual forever death. And I would be okay with it.

I started with s9 live watching but binged the previous 8 in like 4 months before that when I was taking care of my mom before she passed away. Dean is the character who prompted me to write my first fanfic....I think I'll write a few more now that it's ending.

I got home from work and legit cried.

I really only want a cohesive, well crafted end that honors the characters.

And there it is. I am sad but as long as it goes out with glory, I can feel good about this.

Shut your mouth, Sam. I think he has annoyed more this season than in s4 And that is because Jared is not bringing any nuance to Sam. Has he forgotten how to act? I'm not being snarky or mean to be funny. I int enjoy his performances at all this season. Its one note with bitchy face, huffing and exasporation and thats it. I don't understand. I'm not even gonna bother with Dean here because he's Pod!Dean at this point.

Wait, so they just returned and are taking another break already?? Why would Castiel need Anael to contact Chuck???