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Ahh well that's okay too!! Can we all move to Acklestan?

That's purple or plum, right? I shit you not, guys. I was literally thinking this morning that I hope he wears purple and not gold and red. Because purple is the color of royalty and he would look amazing in it. Hot damn! He looks fantastic!!!

I would swap out Channing for Idris Elba

I can't believe Channing Tatum is ahead of...well most of that list LOL

The only thing left for him to do aside from the EGOT, a superhero role in a good superhero movie or TV show, is be a baseball player in a baseball movie...and then I would die happy. LOL

I love this. I bet he will cherish this handmade crown more than all the others. He's just great!

Sounds like some spin doctor speak. Jensen has spun things before for Berens (s12.22). Seems more likely they didn't have Dean much in the ep already so he had time for this. I mean for some reason they couldn't write Dean out for him to do Marvel films but they could fir this? Unless my headcanon is accurate that they are intending to kill off Dean because Jensen is going to do something else and this is the first step in that direction...I'm just sayin'...😎

Don't get me wrong. I think it's fantastic. Just a bit disappointed that it didn't look much like him at all LOL LOL Misha.

That doesn't even look like him. What the heck!

👑 ALL HAIL. I, for one, welcome our new overlord.

Corporal punishment AFAIK is spanking and only spanking. Not being slapped or punched in the face. Brothers and sisters will at times have physical altercations but they are on more equal ground in general. If Sam and Dean wail on each other occasionally, whilst being not great it isn't the same as if John pushed Dean or Sam around or punched them on the regular. I think about Dean hitting Sam on screen the first time and then his reaction to the memory of John's wrath when Sam ran away, tell me that John did abuse him beyond corporal punishment. I think recent studies show that even spanking is detrimental to a child more than helpful. I think Dean and Sam were raised more like children of the late 60s and early 70s than children of the 80s and 90s when corporal punishment (spanking) was abandoned in schools by and large. My mother and brother worked in public schools as teachers and para-pros(aides). Parents had to sign waivers to allow their child to receive corporal punishment. If any teacher or administrator did so without that waiver they could be sued. Seriously. WRT to John, I don't think he was abusive by nature. Mary's demise did a number on him and he in turn did number on the boys in different ways. And that psychological damage to the boys and John was completely undermined in the current iteration with touchy feely forgiveness vs helpful examination and consequences to John on an emotional level. That is my bitterness about Lebanon. IMO they failed to make his return have any meat to the history of the show. If I didn't already know John's historywith the boys , I would think John was not that bad of a father who just kind of failed and miraculously comes back to get the forgiveness he never sought and to snog his not dead wife. It's almost like John got the reward but didn't have to really face what his behavior wrought on the boys. He had choices to be different but the show in early seasons was trying to make it clear that a demon killing his wife, trying to kill his youngest child turned him into a different person. And they just skimmed right over all that for superficial emotional scenes. Bleh

I think the show still does it without making jokes about it within the show. I think they have subtext in all the things in this show not just shipping. It's definitely a curious thing in the show.

I don't really get why the show decided that John needed to anything but a complicated, not great father at all. Part of his steiy is that the awfulness of his introduction to hunting changed him into the drill sargeant, absentee father. It made for a much better story than the recent attempts to whitewash his past. Dean and Sam loving him in spite of his failures makes it pretty realistic and IMO forgiveness didn't need to be had and it doesn't need to have a happy ending to be good.

I legit LOL'd at this. Poor Demon!Dean! http://yuki00yo.tumblr.com/image/182192986562

He's so damn handsome that I almost can't take it.....JFC

Even though I mostly disliked this episode, this is a pretty cute drawing. I always like Lord Mesa's work.

ETA: Although Mildred is supposed to be nearby. Maybe she moved out of that retirement community, to somewhere arther away, hence the use of "trip". Could the friend be Jack's stalker from Optimism? I

Hmm, could an AU Benny make an appearance? I don't think it would be AU Charlie other than an object lesson for Dean or something. What other friends does Dean have? Oh wait, is "old" literal here? Maybe Mildred? That would be great as long as they don't kill her off. I could see Dee Wallace needing see filming accommodation.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them have Felicity dub her Black Canary, given their current attempt to make Not Laurel into Felicity's BFF.

I didn't get that at all from that. To me that was about Dean feeling like he failed John. He was scared of John. I never once took it that John was a badass. I don't think that episode portrayed him as such either. Dean wa obviously scared of John and felt awful... For being a kid and doing a kid thing. IMO, John is no hero. Protecting children is what a parent is supposed to do. He did that and failed at the rest of parenting after Mary died. Screaming at a child for not making a meal perfectly or because it reminded him of his dead wife, and throwing it out, is emotional abuse and I think that was intended to be seen that way. And also to show how Dean is still suffering from John. I will say that I think that was one moment from Mary where I think she got a hint that John was a jerk to Dean.

I think Kripke pretty well indicted John's behavior as being terrible. I don't think he was saying it was okay for the boys to have been raised that way. He drew a parallel between John and God and I don't think either were painted as good fathers. IMO, the story has always been about how Sam, and especially Dean, survived in spite of John. He may have given them tools necessary to survive their weird existence right along screwing them up. Both things happened. For me, I will never forgive John for not communicating with Dean at all when he was literally dying from an actual broken heart in Faith. If that wasn't a metaphor for Dean and John, in general, I don't know what was. John was never there for Dean emotionally after Mary died. He still isn't.

That happened in Colorado. The Blizzard of 82 is what finally drove me away LOL. I'll see if I can find some pics. We had to snowshoe to any store that was open, and that was in the burbs of Denver! Downtown Denver even had 6 foot snow drifts! It was wild!

I knew somone would say that! Having grown up in Colorado, I wouldn't. I would take a dry 11 degrees over a humid 42 that cuts through skin like nothing. It's s like cold from the inside out. Ive dug out my mittens! And nothing has insulation especially an old building like mine. Brrrrrrrrrr. How much snow makes a snow day there? 2 inches? Not being snarky. I know they don't get the kind of snow Colorado or further north gets.

I think the take on John has been fairly consistent (until Lebanon and the whitewash/feel good thing happened)and that take showed that he loved his children and tried to protect yet at the same time was an obsessed bastard per Dean, who made terrible choices and put undue budrens on Dean. And I think he was still a dick to Dean, even in Lebanon. Sure he said, "I'd always hoped you'd get a family", which weirdly, IMO, made it seem like it was somehow Dean's own fault he didn't, and that Dean's issues had nothing to do with how John treated him. To be fair to JDM, he might not even remember those less than stellar John moments so he only thinks about John saving the boys or giving his life for Dean's. That said , I still maintain that JDM is why John was basically a nothing burger in Lebanon because he has commented at cons that he didn't like how John was painted after he died. thanks I disagree with JDM that John was painted any worse than was shown in Something Wicked wherein he left Dean, who was all of 9, at most, to look after Sam, who was all of 5. And could not manage to get any message to Dean in Faith, when Dean was literally dying. Not even a text, yet he did text Dean coordinates to a hunt after he purposefully avoided them in Home. To me, John leaving Dean in a boys home, or coming to get him at a club, wherein Dean thinks he was roofied, fits. In SW, he showed up at the last minute to save Sam and somehow he blamed Dean for all of it. Same with the boys home thing. Dean stole food. And even if Dean stole something else, John could have still not let him stay there for as long as he did. So for me, JDM seems more concerned that he's not playing a bad guy. And weirdly, he tries to defend Negan. He takes the position that villains have to see themselves as a hero in their own way. Maybe he would only return if John's failures, especially with Dean, were not brought up, and John got to boink his undead wife again (I'm kidding about that last part..)