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They seem to have already done that in this episode! Better to let it go as is, I don't think there's anything they can do after sending them to 1955. More 30 year old HS students?

FWIW - FETV will be playing a marathon of Leave it To Beaver episodes in honor of the passing of Tony Dow.

IIRC, Penny's mom was P. Baxter (Past Piper) and she had Piper's power to freeze.

Agreed. Barney Miller dealt with things most shows up to that point casually ignored. During the episode, "The Hero" (1975) Barney consoles Chano, who killed two bank robbers who were holding several people hostage. It was the first time I had ever seen a character shoot a bad guy and having to wrestle emotionally with the fallout. In the same episode, Det. Yemana rings up the point of cops on TV always shooting the bad guys and why they never seemed to have a problem. Barney replies, they weren't around when the lights came back on.

Pepperidge Farm remembers. As someone who works in the media, it sickens me that they just parrot what other outlets release. Still, I'm very sorry to hear about Tony Dow as for a generation he was the big brother we wish we had.

Agreed! A younger Penny story would have taken place circa WW2, although I would have been amenable if a younger actress had been used to portray a teenage Patty in the 60s (say 19-20 years of age). I cannot see our Penny behaving as she did in the 60s! She would have been much more worldly wise than that. I CAN believe she would have been very much in love with her first husband Allen and perhaps all her subsequent relationships soured in comparison (although I liked the idea that most of them would have croaked because Penny was too stubborn to die!).

The 20s was often about spiritualism and such (which is one reason why Harry Houdini made it one of his missions to expose frauds conducting seances). We know at least some of the guests at the Manor speakeasy knew the cousins could cast spells or curses: Past Phoebe: Shall I curse someone for you? Party Guest: Maybe later! We also saw Past Phoebe also used a crystal ball for possible divination purposes. It would have been interesting to have seen more of that part of the family's life. The 60s could have been seen as a drug induced haze by some, since like the 20s, some people were hung up on spiritualism and reaching a higher plane.

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Sorvino back in the early 90s when I was working at the MGM hotel. It was in a gift shop with a Wizard of Oz theme (and a expensive glass recreation of the Emerald City as the center piece - cost at the time was about 10K!). Mr. Sorvino and his buddies sauntered in and made everyone laugh! One of my coworkers was from Glasgow, Scotland, so they had a funny contest of accents! He loved to imitate Scotty from Star Trek!! He also belted out a lovely acapella rendition of "Over the Rainbow"! I almost forgave him for leaving L&O it was so good! More than a decade later, I was working at the TV station, and Mr. Sorvino was an in studio guest (promoting some artwork that was going on display locally). I was running the prompter, and after he arrived he looked at me and said, "I remember you!!". I was so flattered!! He really was nice guy!

It's possible Patty's favorite aunt was just close to her and Grams. Probably helped both learn magic and expanding the BOS. As for how they arrived in SF, I tried to reconcile that the family came from MA to help good magic flourish out west (as her mother, Charlotte mentioned her coven was to help good magic flourish in the New World). I also loved to think that the 1906 earthquake was in fact caused by a major battle between good and evil and the Warrens were involved in taking the Nexis in the name of good. I was disappointed we never got a storyline like this. The Warrens (or at least one branch) lived in SF at least since 1906 although it's possible they may have been there since the 1890s when the cousins were born. We should have seen some family branch from back east - I'd hate to think they all died fighting evil or never kept in touch with Penny's side of the family. It could have been interesting to see a cousin with a different power (like Past Prue's ice powers) because another witch family intermarried with them. Even the definition of having a Nexis fits the definition of homes all over the world. It could have been fun to see other branches of either The Warrens or other witch families with a Nexis of their own in other states. Admittedly I'm old fashioned so I always considered it a given that Charlotte and Melinda were married before conceiving their daughters. Largely, because that was the culture at the time. It wasn't unusual for some women to keep their maiden names or at least use them as a middle name for their child (John Smith married Judy Jones and their daughter is named Samantha Jones Smith). It's still common in Latin cultures today. I can see Charlotte and Melinda having been widowed at some point. Single women IRL were frequent targets in the Salem Witch Trials because their men were expected to own the property they held and those who had no father/son/ brother/husband were singled out to take their land. Melinda could have traveled to Salem to marry her future husband or she married him already and they were going to Salem for a new life. She becomes a widow after Prudence is born and decides to raise her alone, has an affair with Matthew Tate, is betrayed, died, and hoped someone would take pity on her and take care of her daughter (which would have been a big risk to take because at that time since not every family was willing to take on another mouth to feed, especially if they weren't even a blood relation).

Agreed!! We needed to know more about various branches of the family. Yes, Prudence was Melinda's daughters name (although for some reason, in one of the Charmed books she had another name). P. Russell (Phoebe's past self) was a cousin to Gram's mother (Past Piper). Patty would have been a cousin once removed to her not a niece. Phoebe (and her sisters) would be a cousin twice removed. It might have been nice to have known a bit more about Patty's Aunt Phoebe (although it's possible she was a great aunt, not Gram's sister). Prudence's father may not have been Matthew. It was never stated in the show who Melinda Warren married to conceive her. It would seem they were lovers before he ratted her out and had her executed. It would have been awesome to have had some background on the previous matriarchs which we saw for Wyatt's Wiccaning. I would have loved a flashback episode (or maybe Season 7 or 8 could have had a season full of such episodes) expanding on the family tree and the BOS. The sisters definitely needed more witch friends to call upon.

Charmed fans will of course remember her as both Aunt Jackie from Season one's "The Fourth Sister" and as Elise Rothman who was Phoebe's boss at the Bay Mirror from Season 5 onward. This! The cousins knew thy had a serious issue and weren't afraid to take the necessary measures to stop it in its tracks. Unfortunately, they didn't realize they'd be dooming a soul that would be needed later down the line. It's a shame the Charmed Ones rarely did the same. I hated the "The baby made me do it!" excuses. Phoebe made conscious choices and considering her P. Russell life choices and the fact that it was established that being born on the Nexis could sway her either good or evil, she didn't always have the best record. Pregnancy shouldn't have made a difference. IIRC, The Seer said that without HER influence, the baby would have followed his mother's destiny, which sounds like he would have ultimately followed the path of good. I think both seasons were rushed but the Phoebe storyline was combined with some future storylines for some reason. I seem to remember chat about it at the time that a decision was made to cram and wrap up several storylines into Season 4 rather than continue them into Season 5.

As a Charmed fan this saddens me! She played two roles on that show!! In Season 1, she played the aunt of a troubled teen who goes to the Halliwell sisters hoping to join their coven. From Season 5 onward, she played Phoebe's boss, Elise Rothman at the newspaper when she became an advice columnist. Fans of the show used to joke that maybe the characters were twin sisters. I didn't realize she played Carol on Soap! I always hated her for constantly hiding the baby from her dad Jody!! As a fan of the show (been catching reruns for a while on cable), he was a good presence and as stated above, under used. RIP to both.

Couldn't help but notice some acknowledgement on the show's part of past incarnations of Archie and the gang - specifically, the Filmation years: 1) The nod to US of Archie in which the gang's ancestors (who look exactly like the current gang) and their roles in helping shape US history with historical figures (such as Robert Fulton, etc.). 2) The superhero angle. The gang as superheroes with powers. Filmation tried to adapt an animated series but had lost the rights to the characters so they created this instead.

So were the people behind the Jem film, but they lied. I feel like we're being set up.

Those are very common in my job. It's a given with on cam talent (reporters, anchors, weather and traffic reporters) but I also found out some years back that it can be applied to certain members of management too. The news director (the last good one we had!) was fired when the new PTB decided his vision was no longer desired by the station. I found out he had a non compete clause and had to sit it out for a good 6 months if he chose to remain in this market. I'm not sure what he decided to do, but it's not uncommon to have that much remaining time on one's contract and just leaving the market to get work again.

Just repeating what my attorney told me when i showed her all the evidence of workplace bullying my bosses did to me. She explicitly stated it's a right to work state and they could do anything they wanted unless you're a "protected class".

It also gives the employer all the power. Essentially, they could fire you because they don't like your face. In a way, it's both good and bad. Good in that if an employer had a bad employee, they can fire them for that (assuming it's a legit situation) but bad in that jerks like Bitcheroo interfere in promotions and progress and can make people miserable and you can't punish the company for it. That's why workplace bullying is so rampant. You're forced to take it or leave it.

We're a right to work state so that's unlikely. The Culinary Union and the Carpenters Union seem to be the only ones that count here. It's more about keeping good employees than anything. Many of the people I work with have 2nd jobs to pay the rent, and now even that may not be enough. We are bleeding good help for two reasons: 1) The corporate entity that bought us are known for cost cutting, and that includes cutting salaries of many high paid talent (those who appear on screen as opposed to folks behind the scenes like myself) and not paying them OT (they have you come in on your days off and give you two other days off so the pay is the same). 2) Bitcheroo, who's bad attitude of superiority against anyone who thinks differently than she does or she perceives as a threat to her position drives a lot of people to quit.

Prequels are tricky since you have to make sure everything makes sense based on established lore. Of course, the current crop of screenwriters have yet to do it correctly and end up retconning everything.

My bosses gave us 2% merit raises! Meanwhile, prices for goods went up 20-30% (and could climb higher before it's all over!). I wish there were laws that made cost of living adjustments (COLA) for working folk!

He'll always be Corporal Agarn but there were two other characters I remember him for fondly from childhood: As Eddie the ghostbuster in the live action series which spawned an animated spinoff in the 80s. As the voice of Marlon the magical mynah bird in The Brady Kids cartoon. RIP Mr. Storch! 99 years is nothing to sneeze at and you will be missed!

RIP to James Caan! For all the classic roles he's played over the years, I'll still always remember him for being Buddy's biological father in Elf!

Even back then, people who knew a thing or two about LEOs knew it was a stretch to pull their guns and shoot people in the back. Or that police pull their guns as frequently as they did on TV shows. That's probably why Barney Miller resonated for so many years with real life LEOs. They weren't out gunning down people - even criminals.

Your sister was very sweet to do that! Personally, I prefer to do what we did when we were kids: smuggle our treats in our purses! We used to go to the market, buy about a pound or so of chocolate covered raisins (or whatever we liked) and after buying them, put them in our purses. We got 3X the treats for a fraction of the price!

Yes, it was the height of movie rudeness! Confronting them directly wouldn't have gotten you anywhere, they likely would have ignored you (worst case scenario, perhaps physically attacked you). You could have gone to get an usher or report it to the management. An usher could have either given a warning to the two twerps or ejected them from the theater. You could have even tried asking for your money back since your experience was ruined. When money is involved, management may take more care.