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I had to look up Nancy Meyers. No idea what they were talking about. I haven't watched all season and yesterday's marathon completely sucked me in. I've missed Ken. And a Peter sighting! Sandavol? Oi. Did Jax just overshadow how awful Sandy is? Or has he become "extra" extra. I've never liked him and didn't realize my level of dislike could go any higher. Cyst white male? Ugh. On the flip side, I really like Season 9 Ariana. I don't like Brock, and yet, I like Brock. It's confusing. Like out back in the alley talking to DJ James confusing. Raquel?! Is that her finally figuring out she agreed to marry an asshole?

I'm a little giddy at the idea of Ariana and Katie, opening a sandwich shop. Even if it probably is just a storyline!

I watched parts of today's early OC marathon today. The season where Tamra told Heather about David emailing Shannon about separation and Heather then telling OC women who lunch about David's email. Basically spreading information about Shannon that was none of Heather's business. She did to Shannon, everything she has accused Shannon of. I can't help but wonder if they put that season up on purpose. Heather was horrible to Shannon every chance she got. And I can't figure out why. I still think Tamra is involved behind the scenes.

I feel like Tamra is involved in all of this behind the scenes.

I for one would have enjoyed Nicki turning to Ashley and saying "Your turn! Bust out some Coffee and Cream". Impromptu sing off! Potomac Pitch Perfect!

For the record? I like the gossip you give!

I find him very attractive. I think Eddie is handsome. Not Mia or Idris handsome. But very handsome in his own right. No howife standards attached!

It's there: lisa rinna (@lisarinna) Tweeted: ❤️❤️❤️ https://twitter.com/lisarinna/status/1462118389267132416?s=20

Did he have a reputation for grabbing rear ends?

Disclaimer: I'm aware of Nicki Minaj, but really know nothing about her. I'm personally kind of excited based on the end of part 3 and the previews behind 4. She goes straight for it. Like we would. Andy would never point out a housewife didn't have a storyline! And? Did Candiace stick up for Ashley at the end? Was she actually...defending her?

Monique wanted Gigi to assault Ashley?!?!???? And Ashley still wrote a letter of character for the court????? That must be some "missing" security tape.

Teddi is now a reporter for Extra?

This just occurred to me. I recall someone posting Dorit got a dog. Did it not bark? Was the dog in the house? Did she dump a 3rd dog?

I have Doso, a sheriff to the right and a retired US Marshall to the left.

My nails 💅 did not take as long as I thought! Love Color Street! We are finishing tonight! Candiace had daily panic attacks. She was a mess. Monique says 10 days after the fight she started feeling bad. She talked to a producer and wanted a one or one or with both husbands. The same day she got the email threatening legal action. Screengrabbed it, sent it to the producer, saying Never Mind Candiace says she didn't file for 2 weeks. It was all the lies. Candiace had enough and said Monique was trying her. Monique says Candiace filed the complaint knowing what it would do to her family. I have 3 kids! Monique goes on to say Candiace had no guilt or remorse knowing she hit her with a glass. Candiace talks about Monique's charges and has no words, except vile, low and disgusting, Monique is Monique reminds us tge whole thing was dropped due to a mutual fight. Monique told Bravo she would finish the season with who she was comfortable with. No cast trip or finale. Candiace said Monique was not given a choice to film anymore. Monique said the network didn't penalize her at all. Noah Samton, production, said arm's length for Monique, which kept her out of scenes and the show and that was a repercussion. Gizelle said the pandemic pushed the season premiere back. Bravo wanted a unified response on social media--a pre-planned comment, with picture. Monique posted the picture with their faces scratched out Robyn says they all agreed to do a Tik Tok Don't Rush challenge. Monique was excited and said she'd be there, canceled because she was busy and when people wanted to know where Monique was, she was telling them she didn't want to be involved in fakers. Which set Monique's fans on the other howives. Gizelle brought up the Drag song. Candiace called it a piece of trash. Gizelle recognized Monique was good for show--all she had to do was apologize to Candiace. But after scratching out her face, now she needed an apology. Andy said producers showed more of that fight then ever before. Joshua Brown says it was done documentary style. Viewers make the judgement. They wanted Monique to come back to show tge journey between her and Candiace. Andy never thought Monique could come back, but public opinion was different. Candiace was at first no, but then decided Monique was not messing with her money. Monique was not moving forward. Not All Diamonds and Rose is the source for all the information in the past posts. It is an interesting book. I will say, these forums have talked a lot about what is considered new stuff. It's a good read. Except for OC Tamra and BH Rinna getting a tongue bath. And the Michael Darby stuff. Ew.

Robyn says Monique Leaked the story to her fans right away and they knew it was her because the details were totally skewed against Candiace. Monique says she never told bloggers. She told family and friends. She knows who leaked it though Lorraine Haughton-Lawson said Monique is intoxicated with the fame. But she would deny, deny, deny, deny that she had anything to do with the story. She'll say, I only told 2 people. Well you knew what you were doing when you told 2 people! Candiace says she was attacked on social media for a year before the season aired. Robyn says it was really bad. People said Candiace deserved it, she asked for it. Monique asked for a meeting with everyone, but Candiace to apologize for putting them in harm's way. Karen hosted it, offered Candiace the same opportunity, but she declined. Wendy says Monique admitted she was not remorseful. Robyn said Monique's lack of remorse was a problem and there was nothing right in what she did. Gizelle says if she realized and admitted being wrong, instead of doubling down, the ladies would have been on board. Then there is a discussion about how Black women were represented. Monique says the OGs want to be on a pedestal--they want RHOP to be a Black show that didn't act Black. We should welcome who we are. Everybody acts the fool. Robyn says there is not much representation, period. And what is out there, shows women to be physical. Candiace says the stigma attached to their behavior is because they are Black. Because RHOBH breaks glasses on tables, RHOD smacked a camera, RHOC threw wine in a face, flippong tables on Jersey and pulling hair on Jersey and no one calls them ghetto or that they are dangerous. Gizelle says being a Black woman is tough and lots of obstacles blocking success. Not how she was raised, if she has an issue, she will say it. Ashley says all the women are saying Monique is a disgrace to Black women. She made a mistake, it's not fair. Gizelle says Sonja, NY, pees in a cornfield and it's hilarious, but they never could. Robyn says Monique tore down what they built in 4 years. Okay. I am done for the night! There's just one more piece--the court fights.

Robyn says at the beginning of the season, Candiace was on thin ice with everyone. Candiace says she was trying to make up with everyone. She was fighting with Gizelle, Robyn and Monique and was constantly apologizing. Monique refused to speak to Candiace unless there was a witness around. At the winery, she says Candiace got liquid courage. Candiace was trying to start an argument, but Monique was just laughing at her. Candiace says it was light stuff: she teased her for faking sleep as she was leaving the log cabin in the woods. Monique said she wasn't a mother and began shaming her for being childless and it escalated. Monique says she got her hand in her face just like Ashley and the butter knife. She doesn't do hands in the face. Candiace says her hand was barely in her face. Monique told her to back up. Candiace said What are you going to do. Drag me? Which passed Monique off and pushed her over the edge after she warned Candiace. Candiace says that's when Monique flicked her hair and she flicked Monique's vest. Monique says she swung her wine glass and hit her in the face. That's when she pulled Candiace's head down and started punching her. Candiace says the glass did not leave her hand until after she was pulled down on the table. People were screaming at Monique to let her go, buy she wouldn't. All Candiace was thinking about was please let her wig stay on. She would not live on infamy on the internet as a Black woman whos wig has been ripped off and she's fighting in cornrows. Robyn said that yes, Candiace can be annoying, but nothing she said or did, warranted that type of physical attack. Monique says they eventually led her to a back room, but her adrenaline was pumping. The force of the glass pushed her lip into her tooth, made her bleed and got her really mad. Candiace said she was a mess and a producer held her like a child. Monique says they were trying to calm her down, but she could hear Candiace saying "She's fired" and Monique was all "She's still talking? If I'm fired I am whooping her ass". Candiace says the producers suddenly told her to get in a car. Candiace did not know at the time that Monique had broke free from the barn and was running to get her. Monique says by the time she got there, Candiace was gone. Lorraine Haughton-Lawson says she spoke to both of them that night. Monique was going crazy about how Candiace got what she deserved and wanted. Candiace was a puddle of mush and has been ever since. She says Candiace goes back and forth from being angry and hurt because Monique was at one time, a friend. Andy said it's a bad look for the series. Monique says Andy was really there for her when it all went down. Candiace says Andy never reached out to her and has qualms about it because she heard he spoke to Monique. Andy says he did not reach out to Monique, she came to him--she wanted to plead her case snd prove Candiace provoked her. Monique says Andy would listen. He said to her, sometimes the camera doesn't catch things, stay true to what you think happened. We'll sort it out at the reunion with footage. Candiace says she reached out to Andy's assistant to get Andy to call. Nothing. She knows all the howives constantly text him, but how many were physically assaulted. He couldn't take 10 minutes out of his schedule, he didn't give a fuck, he makes money off their backs, feeds his son with it and he just doesn't give a fuck. She says she told him that to his face. Andy says he knew she was talking to production and would have absolutely called her if he had known. He doesn't remember her telling him he doesn't give a fuck. He does remember she was upset he talked to Monique. Joshua Brown says he called Candiace a lot and the network was very supportive of her. Candiace says Bravo didn't give a fuck about her. Yes they'd check on her, but she thinks they were trying to avoid lawsuits. Monique held onto something Andy told her: Not saying it was right, but there's a thing called cause and effect. Poke the bear and the bear will bite. Andy says is POV was skewed by Kenya and Porsha's reunion fighting so he wondered what Candiace's role in this was. Gizelle says thus was different because Porsha apologized to everyone. She didn't go to social media to lie about it and showed remorse. Monique still hasn't shown remorse. Next and I think the final part: Monique and her stealth use of bloggers.

Ashley says Michael and her has just got back together and were stronger than ever. She had been sharing private stuff on TV, they were working together, they fell apart, they got together and then this.... Andy Cohen was shocked and forgot that Michael had grabbed his ass previously. Gizelle says Michael's been grabbing ass since season 1. Candiace says two other producers had their asses grabbed by Michael. Lorraine Haughton-Lawson, production, had heard off the record, that Michael grabbed a lot of asses from the gay men on production. Gizelle says Michael likes to squeeze asses and this time the cameraman was the wrong ass to grab. Monique felt sorry for Ashley. If it's true, your husband is out grabbing ass while you are trying to have a baby. If it's not true, the media is playing up your husband grabbing ass. Ashley says this is when she realized Monique was a true friend. She realized the severity of the situation, didn't try to joke or make a storyline about it. Candiace says the only reason Monique stood by Ashley's side after the ass grabbing was because it made her look good for the show. All charges were dismissed against Michael Ass Grabbing Darby. Ashley says she knew her marriage would be a hot topic because of all the differences between them and how open they are. Andy says Michael has a love hate relationship with the show. Not sure what he gets out of it and lands up in a lot of messes. Gizelle likes Michael, he's a wild card. The producer in her knows he's good tv. Wendy gets introduced. Friends with Candiace. Trying to find footing and a moment per Candiace's advice and that's how "Address me as Dr. Wendy" was born.

Unless she brings up Juan. And then he looks aroused!

Candiace says Monique and her were friends off camera. When they hung out, Monique would trash Michael and Ashley. The group, as a whole, thinks their relationship is a shame. All of a sudden Monique is defending Ashley and it didn't make sense. Monique says it's all lies. She doesn't trash talk and keeps her mind positive. Candiace thought Monique was not serious about dragging her because there is a line you do not cross. Monique says she has to restrain herself from throwing a bottle at Candiace's head. Candiace says Monique is lucky that she didn't threatened someone else who didn't give a shit about her or her unborn baby. Monique says she a 0-100 type person. I can snap and apologize just as quickly. So she apologized to Candiace about threatening her with a bottle. Candiace says she has no idea why Monique defended Ashley so strongly after last year when Ashley made damaging accusations about Monique drinking and driving. You're threatening me with physical violence but you let Ashley slide and "forgive her". Candiace says that's fishy. And now it's Michael Darby Ass Grabbing Time. After I have some chocolate ice cream to fortify myself.......shudders.......

I kind of felt like Charrisse was all over the place. She contradicts herself a lot. So I don't quite get the truth of it all. Production wasn't very clear either.

One more tonight! The Butter Knife. Robyn says it went left fast. They were supposed to talk about Michael wanting to suck Juan's dick. I'm gonna need a moment after typing out that quote..... But Ashley broke the plan and went after Candiace for the comments she made about her miscarriage. Candiace says Michael and Ashley were putting on a performance at Monique's rainbow party and she let them know. Ashley says Candisce crossed a line. Candiace says Ashley once again brought up her mom, being a spoiled brat, but she was having none of it because Ashley's "life is an entire dumpster fire and it's on display for everyone to see, so leave me and my privileged Black American princess ass alone". Robyn says BOOM, Candiace is slamming a butter knife on the table and kicking Ashley out. Candiace says she was drinking red wine all day and had no problems telling the bitch to get out of her house. Monique says this is when she began to feel unsafe around Candiace. Candiace says she was never going to stab anyone with a butter knife and no one else thought she was either. Everyone sat there calmly. Monique said she didn't say anything because she couldn't believe what she was seeing. She'd never seen a grown person acting like that. Ashley says there is pressure to make it more explosive and Candiace wanted to instigate a physical fight. Candiace said she wanted to throw Ashley's purse out to get her to leave, but Chris was trying to get her to calm down, so she threw the knife to get Ashley to go. Monique says it was worse than shown. Chris was getting punched by Candiace, trying to get to Ashley. Gizelle says "You're welcome for the scene". Candiace says Gizelle wants credit for producing the scene. Gizelle says she pushes stories and knows how to get the truth. Ashley says Gizelle thinks she belongs in the credits and Ashley kind of agrees with that. Lauren Eskelin says Gizelle won't leave without getting the information she wants, but clams up about her own life. Gizelle says she knew she had to bring Ashley back in after she got thrown out. And the reason was? They still hadn't talked about Michael wanting to suck Juan's dick. I'm gonna need another moment....... Candiace is mad that she's pointed as an out of control Black woman who wants to stab people with knives when she repeatedly told Ashley to leave and she wouldn't. I'm done for tonight. Tomorrow's 1st post will be The Country Hodown aka I Will Drag You, Pregnant And All.

Why are they even discussing Jamal? That was last season for goodness sakes.

Candiace says she questioned Ashley's sincerity about getting pregnant because she was always knocking back Corona Lights. Ashley says you can attack her for anything except her pregnancy journey. Robyn chimes in with talking about her finances was a line, but Ashley didn't mind crossing that. Ashley says you can't equate losing money to a miscarriage. Candiace says Ashley was just doing her job--making a big deal out of nothing while all she was doing was saying to Ashley's face what everyone was saying behind her back. Gizelle says Candiace really wanted to be BFF with Ashley, but Ashley wasn't feeling it and it hurt Candiaces feelings and that's why she went after her. Gizelle says Candiace is now clearly over Ashley. I might take a break for the rest of the night and finish up tomorrow. Or maybe not.😁

Karen did not want Ray's tax troubles on TV. Gizelle was having none of Karen's fantasy island life and was keeping it real. Karen says marriage is a challenge, they fight for it and that's why they are winning. Monique's car crash. Monique, Candiace and Ashley had a scene to shoot. Afterwards, Ashley and Monique went out for drinks. Monique says she has 3 drinks, including a Moscow Melon that she exchanged for a martini. Candiace didn't go, but said she witnessed Monique driving after drinking in the past. Monique says she would never get behind the wheel intoxicated. She didn't feel drunk, she had been up since 4 that morning, she just moved into a new house, she didn't have a nanny, she was managing Financials for rental properties, starting her new business, working on the board of a new charity, just had a miscarriage all while filming a reality show and she was exhausted. As a result, she dozed off. She rolled down windows, turned the music up, dozed off again and went into a ditch. Candiace believes she fell asleep because she was drunk. Monique says she limits herself when drinking, so Ashley is wrong when she says Monique had 4 martinis. Candiace says Monique drank a whole bottle of Camus. Ashley brought it up then. Monique says Ashley was lying about how much she drank. She told the group about her miscarriage and they disregarded that and went after her for drinking and driving. Robyn says Monique was fine with Ashley's version of events, they were in a hot tub that night smoking cigars. When they were at Karen's perfume event is when Monique was suddenly mad about them lying about her drinking. Monique says she didn't want to go to the perfume event because she was so mad at Ashley so she decided to be quiet, but everyone was coming at her. Ashley says they both started saying stuff to each other and it escalated. Robyn thought Monique's anger towards her was hilarious--it was a performance for the audience about not drinking and driving. It was making Robyn laugh, which was pissing off Monique. And the next thing you know, Monique is trying to choke Robyn with an umbrella. Monique says she tried to walk away, but Gizelle and Robyn kept "instigating" her. She says she called them Pinky and the Brain and that made Robyn get in her face. So she threatened her with an umbrella. Robyn says she knew Monique was all talk. Monique says Ashley gave her a real apology after Candiace put her through some stuff (Candiace questioning Ashley's commitment to getting pregnant and Coronas)