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This show was my first introduction to Mr Brown. Very impressed with his ability. Yeah, they've been together since college. If they were married right after college, that still gives them a few years as a couple before having kids.

Yeah. She is more beaten down by life than Lorelai but still... It was definitely a way to distinguish her from Lorelai. "Ace" feels a little condescending, but Rory doesn't seem to mind it. If a guy I was sleeping with called me that, it wouldn't go over well. Seems to be their thing though. Heh. I love "Lor" (big surprise lol). They've known each other since they were kids. There's people I grew up with that call me a name that anyone else couldn't get away with. I do hate it when someone shortens my name though, so I can see why that nickname would be annoying. Ooh I hadn't even thought of that! It gives the scene new layers.

I thought it was weird that they re-used the engagement ring. The ring, the dress, all of it should have been pitched. Seems like bad karma to me.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/198657-why-its-hard-to-like-rory-in-the-gilmore-girls-revival I don't agree with everything in this article but it raises some valid points. I still like Rory, flaws and all.

Now that would be interesting. As someone who did a similar thing in letting the guy off the hook, I would love to see if Lorelai had days when she questioned that decision. She mentioned keying his car once, so there must have been some issues there. Plus, we see them 16 years later when their relationship has gone through some of those bumps. A 20 something Lorelai with a young kid, trying to save enough for a home, and knowing that Chris was leading a carefree existence would be a different matter. I don't think she was considering cutting him out of the child's life. But he does live in a different country, and is going to marry another woman. I am sure Logan would financially contribute if that's what Rory wanted. How often he would see their child is another matter. Unlike everyone else, I enjoyed the Rory/Logan relationship in the revival. However, Rory was the one going to him. It wasn't until Logan thought he was losing Rory that he bothering coming to see her. There's an article on cosmo that examined how often abortion is considered for the many unplanned pregnancies this show has, and it failed miserably (the show, not the article). http://csmo.us/fucAXeo

What if the show of Gilmore girls is an adaptation of Rory's book? I agree that the cast brings it alive. I have read transcripts for something I wanted to quote here, and was struck how the words seem meaner when written out. Like Lorelai's attitude in that diner she and Rory went to in season 3 during her rift with Luke. Watching LG say the words was funny but they are not so cute without seeing Lauren and Alexis act them out.

I can't fault Mia for anything she did, as I think it was her encouragement that led Lorelai to at least let her parents know where she and Rory was. (As for the age issue, it is possible that Lorelai lied about her age.) I can't fault Richard either when dealing with a clearly upset Rory. He had never seen her so distressed before, and we know that he adored her. I think she played him because Lorelai was being so stern about her coming home. They are her grandparents and if they had turned her away, she would have gone to Logan or someone else. This brings it back to the Mia and Lorelai situation. I doubt if Mia had said no that Lorelai would have gone back to her parents. She already wrote them the letter and her mind was made up.

Perhaps but we have all spent considerable time watching that same premise on this show. Rory planned on including Dean (and most likely her other boyfriends). A chapter or two on Yale, leaving school, and then going back to graduate near the top of her class. Her beloved grandfather's death, and the effect on all the Gilmore girls. Ending with realizing that journalism was not for Rory and she would be happier writing books, running the paper, or whatever else she chose to do, in addition to being a single parent.

It goes with that generation, I think. My father was of that same age and he was always worried about how I would support my family, even though similar to Luke I have a successful business. It's not as impressive as being a lawyer or doctor but it's a good living. It seems Amy ignored a lot of character growth, and taking relationships to a higher level. Lorelai and her parents, Rory and Logan, Lane and her mother, the list goes on. Every time I think of something that feels a little off in the revival, I remember that I'm comparing it to season 7 characters/relationships. I for one will not ignore season 7. It happened, there are parts I enjoyed, and parts that make me want to scream. It's canon, whether she likes it or not. Just like this revival is canon, even though some wish it wasn't. Or a worse mother. Oy. I went into it loving Lauren and expecting to love her character but Sarah made some parental decisions that made me cringe.

I agree. At least Kirk is a regular character, it makes sense to watch him perform. Watching two characters we have never seen before for 10 minutes is boring and annoying. Not every GG fan watched Bunheads. I kept being reminded of the time it was taking up from the characters we know and love.

Definitely not alone. I tend to side with Lorelai in her battles with Emily. In the 1st season Emily gets on my last nerve. Partly this is how the story is told. Lorelai is one of the protagonists, and Emily is sometimes written as an antagonist. There's only a couple of times I can defend Emily and it is an effort to examine what's going on behind the surface with her. I think in reality they should have remained cordial but not forced a relationship as they can be very toxic together. That goes against one of the big themes of the show but in real life I think that would be the more plausible and healthy solution. I think it's the old fashioned idea of making sure Luke had enough capital to take care of Lorelai. He may not have thought that a diner owner's salary could provide. There's also the classism that if Luke had a franchise, he would be more respectable in Richard and Emily's social circle. I adore Richard but he did have some outdated ideas about marriage, family, etc. I think that he thought he was doing what was best for Lorelai. Emily shares this same attitude in her life insurance conversation with Luke. Reminding him to get his affairs in order so Lorelai doesn't suffer financially. It makes sense that Richard left the bulk of his estate to Emily. Lorelai has shown many times that she rejects their money (except when they are bailing her out of some financial burden lol). Rory's education was paid for and she has/had the trust fund. It's not that uncommon for a husband to leave his estate to his wife.

I love Lane a lot. She's probably my favourite character outside of the Gilmore family. It's great to read so many young women who identified with teenage Rory. Lane's teenage struggles and early adulthood were much more relatable to me than anything Rory did. I would have loved to see her story during the end of the finale to where she is in the revival. Agree completely about Lorelai's parenting. She doesn't do anything unmom-like in my opinion. She has a close bond with her kid and acts more democratic (er, mostly) but so do many other parents.

The odd thing is I think the producers, cast, etc think the musical was hilarious and entertaining. I just read Lauren's book and she mentions how they think it's awesome. Maybe it's a lost in translation thing because despite the mixed reactions to other storylines, most fans seem to hate that blasted musical.

Aww. See, I like that about her. Different strokes... I agree there is a similarity between her talk show persona and at certain times with Lorelai. I like it when Lorelai is upbeat and giddy so her talk show appearances are fun for me to watch. Love Bonbon. Seriously. Whenever someone is mean to her (*cough Annalise cough*), I feel protective. Definitely don't feel that way about Paris. I did like seeing her fit back into her Paris role.

For anyone who missed the old opening credits, a fan made a video with the theme song. Definitely made me smile. https://youtu.be/EJ4l-yqFqMg

That's an interesting article. I had never thought of using hallucinogenics to treat depression associated with illness but it makes sense. Most of the folks I know that do it are into expanding their minds. I do think it's a little funny how tv/films portray these trips. No rainbows or prisms of light, it is usually having the character associate with a dead relative. A good storytelling tool but, um, not exactly accurate. Never once in almost 30 years of doing this have I had a conversation with a deceased relative.

This is why I don't get the criticism about Logan. Rory had a boyfriend of two years and was having a no strings relationship with her ex. I have zero judgement for either of them. I certainly don't see Logan as a villain or manipulator. They were honest with each other. Not so honest with their other relationships, but whatever. I do wonder what Odette knows, but since we only get Rory's viewpoint, it's hard to know what's going on with Odette and Logan. I think it was more recent. He said that he saw her in Barcelona, maybe that's when it began? It's very vague. However, I was talking to a friend and she was convinced that they were saying it had been going on all this time. I disagreed mainly because there is a temporary feel to it. And, I strongly doubt Rory would be in a casual relationship for 10 years and not tell Lorelai about it.

It does matter if you care about the character of Chris. Which I do. He gets criticism for not telling Lorelai about Sherry back in season 2 until she made a move on him. Lorelai is doing a similar thing by not telling Chris about Luke. Which is fine, it's her prerogative but it does contribute to the drama at the wedding. She has known Christopher since childhood, they were teenagers together, and they remained friends/sometimes sleeping together. That's a lot of history. Lorelai has admitted more than once that she was waiting for him to get it together. This isn't about her relationship with Luke. I am saying that her long history and closeness with Chris would make it difficult to cut him out forever just because he aligned himself with Emily. Indeed, when they do reconnect in season 6, they are friendly and relaxed again. It may some kind of universal rule to respect others relationships, not everyone does especially babydaddys who are still in love with their ex. This kind of thing happens in real life too. It shouldn't be up to Lorelai to nurture a relationship between Rory and her dad. The problem is that Chris and Rory are so passive, their relationship suffers as a result. Lorelai pushes Rory to contact Chris after he pays for Yale. Which leads to them having a better relationship in season 6. If Lorelai hadn't done that, they wouldn't bother.

Really? I hated it on the first viewing. It felt so unimportant to the other plotlines, until the final song. Maybe you need to be a musical fan to enjoy the humour of it. Even the meeting where they are discussing it dragged. I never watched Bunheads. I felt watching the musical that Amy was trying to blend worlds. I loved the paper delivery scenes, that felt very Stars Hollow to me. The east side/west side joke cracked me up.

Chris went about it all wrong but I believe he still thought he could get her back. Lorelai not telling him of her relationship makes it appear that she's not as committed as she claims. They had spent time together (helping with G.G., tequila night, talking on the phone) and during none of this does she mention that she's in a relationship. Yes, Rory told him but Lorelai is the one he has the connection with, yet she says nothing. It gives credence to Christopher's attitude of Luke as a placeholder. Chris is more than the father of her child. He's someone she has tonnes of history with, and they have a bond. Cutting ties with the person you share a child with is not easy and the ramifications can affect your child. Lorelai wanted Chris and Rory to have a good relationship, that was partly why she invited Rory to their lunch. She knows that Rory will follow her lead in regards to Chris. If she is on the outs with him, so will Rory.

My eldest called me at 3am and said it's happening! We stayed up til 7 and then I had boring grown up stuff to do the next day. It's all I could think about. It gave me a smiley face too just to see the girls again. :) I liked it even better on my second viewing, just to appreciate the little nuances I missed the first time. Like how subtly out of sorts Rory is when she suspects she's pregnant. Lorelai notices but doesn't know why. Or in the funeral scene how Rory puts her head on Lorelai's shoulder just like she did in Kill Me Now. :))

I think Randall's real issue is that Rebecca lied to him by keeping knowledge of his birth father secret. His anger feels overblown to me, BUT realizing that a parental figure has lied to you about something this important is a big deal. It cuts you deep. Watching this I think he is acting kind of immature, like a teenage kid would. This secret is something that's been hidden for years so I guess he gets a little leeway on how he's acting. It's the thought of not being wanted by his birth family. That the two people who were supposed to love and want him, didn't. It doesn't matter how great his adoptive parents were, he felt that he wasn't good enough. Just Yes. I don't want to generalize because obviously not all adopted/fostered kids feel that way. But many do.

Lorelai blamed Emily for that debacle, justifiably so. Chris got drunk and wanted to get her back and things didn't go as planned. I don't think he thought he was ruining Lorelai's happiness because she hadn't even told Chris she was dating Luke until they were introduced. Even if he were responsible for all the drama, they share a kid.

Fall Spring Winter Summer Fall was great. That is all. I liked Winter quite a bit, just seeing the girls again and how they interacted at home put a big grin on my face. That's all I wanted really from this revival. Seeing how Luke fit into their family convinced me of their relationship working. I do think Spring was a better episode, I loved all of Rory's floundering and the wookie freakout had me cracking up Summer boy, what happened? That unending musical, not even LG's reactions could warrant it going on and on and on... Didn't care for the girls trash talking at the pool. It was gross. It wasn't all bad but those things definitely mark it down. I forget which plot is in each episode. I would definitely lose that musical. Just No. I would rather watch Kirk or some other townie with a wacky plot. Lorelai's Wild adventure seemed like filler. I loved her phone call to Emily, but the scenes in the motel and chatting up with the other women felt pointless. It was cute seeing her in a scene with Jason Ritter again though. The surrogacy thing in Winter felt manufactured to put some conflict between Luke and Lorelai. I don't buy it. Er, anything with Lorelai and Rory together? I'm easy. Loved Rory coming back to her grandparents home and the flashbacks. That whole scene has my heart. Emily cursing! The previously mentioned wookie freakout with Lorelai giving Rory a pep talk. Kirk's pig, Petal and ooober. Lorelai exercising, Rory doing her Kiefer Sutherland impression, and Luke being completely straight faced. I couldn't stop laughing. His non reaction made it even funnier.

I had a major wtf moment when I read that bit about Richard too. It made no sense. The criticism about Rory being pregnant, and also Lane's choice to stay in Stars Hollow and be a mom bother me because there's this attitude of how much that will suck. Lane is happy, her life doesn't suck, especially when you compare it to Rory's story in these episodes. It's not what either one of them envisioned when they were kids but they can still have a happy life. There's this theme throughout the series of life doesn't always turn out how you expect, and it's a good thing. Luke says it in the diner, Lorelai has said it several times on the show, Rory and Lane's storylines show this. It was *very* brief, blink and you miss it. When Lorelai is delivering papers, she goes to Kims Antiques and we see Lane thanking a customer. I love her all small scenes too. It was honest of a 30 something couple who have dreams but have to work to support their family.