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Thank you for explaining. This kind of reminds me of Frasier, they changed birthdays for plot purposes on more than one occasion. It's basic continuity to remember when your main characters birthdays are but I guess some writers don't mind futzing with the dates. Ok. I thought when Lorelai got back it was late October since the wedding was done so quickly. She said something like it's in two weeks. The feel of the LDB scenes make it appear Halloween time. Admittedly, I don't dwell on time inconsistencies but you think her birthday would have been mentioned by either Logan and crew or her mother. It stuck out to me. I can handwave it in the pilot and early episodes that everything hadn't gelled yet in the storytelling. But it is noticeable. I can't think of a time when a parent would say their child is older than they are. Especially when a guy is hitting on your underage daughter. Same in the revival. Rory says she is 32 in the hotel room when she's freaking out. Now, either she's 31 and overstating her age (said no woman ever) or she already had her birthday, whenever it is now supposed to be.

Can I ask why? I thought they said it was in October. Although it's strange there was no mention of her birthday in the Fall episode of the revival. It apparently took place after the girls fight in the cemetery and before they reconciled and Rory's wild night with Logan and friends. That bugged me a bit but there are real continuity errors in the revival so I don't dwell on it.

I liked Angst in My Pants, when Lorelai pours coffee on Lane's wedding dress. She's doing Lane a favour, and the song also tells us her state of mind. I hope it doesn't show/it'll go away It's just a passing phase/it'll go away Give it a 100 years/it won't go away I've got angst in my pants

It's a little funny and some of their criticisms I don't take seriously. I think we're supposed to see the series and revival as a whole. It's an interesting theory, and made me think. Especially since so many people are critical of the girls closeness and don't think it's real. (How many of those people are familiar with the dynamics of a teen/young something parent with a child remains to be seen. Because I know several parents who had their kids young and it can result in a different parental relationship.) It would make sense since so much time has been spent on how much Rory loves literature. Her choice to be a journalist always felt wrong to me, being an author fits better. Ha! There's also a mention in one of the early seasons of Rory having a list. She tells Lorelai it's going on the list.

This Cracked video made me laugh and wonder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RPQGHo57VU&sns=tw

I did too, though I've always been partial to the Queen Mum. I loved that she gave him a piece of her mind without losing a step in the dance. Maybe it's easier to judge Phillip on his wounded male ego now, versus if this show aired in the fifties. Being upset that his children and Elizabeth don't have his name seems outdated in our time. I'm very annoyed with him but I have to remember he (and the whole drama of Margaret marrying a divorcee) are a product of their time. Great final scene of the Queen looking straight into the camera. I am tempted to rewatch the series to appreciate the journey she has taken from the first episode.

The Luke scenes do nothing for me, though I do admit to a perverse glee of watching Lorelai play mind games with him. The lawyers joke goes on way too long. I first watched it before my eldest went to university and wondered how we would deal with that big change. Turns out I was the Rory and she was the chill one, ready for some independence. That episode is so well done. Rory's panic, and knowing she can text her mom who will always come running. The howling scene, and her hug/conversation with Lorelai when she is panicking. I have a soft spot for Rory losing her composure (whether it be in season 1 with telling both Tristan and Paris off, or her freakout in the revival). Alexis does a good job when Rory is stressed and flipping out about something. Or maybe it's just that I find her more lovable and easier to relate to when she's not Perfect Rory.

I did too, Taryn! Emily gets some of the best one liners lol Plus, Emily and Lorelai at the spa. I love seeing them trying to interact, with Emily doing her best to bond with Lorelai and acting like her daughter (being overly talkative, trying to be chummy) and Lorelai being annoyed.

Oh yeah, the whole situation was messed up. I just don't know if Lorelai would have been so focused on having a relationship with April if Luke hadn't been so against it. If he had introduced them with no drama or secrets, it could have been a more relaxed scenario. Maybe Lorelai in the revival is more laid back about it because she understands how much it means to Luke that he have a relationship with April without her being part of it. I don't have any problem with how she is with April. She's friendly and jokes around with her, the kid is comfortable in her home. They're not bosom buddies, and they shouldn't be. Lorelai has Rory for that. Slightly off topic, I loved Rory's jealous look at Lorelai when she gave Mae Whitman's character the crodonutcake. Fair enough. I personally have no problem with her not being best friends with April in the revival. I didn't have an issue with Lorelai telling Max way back in season one that Rory was her responsibility, not his. Other people have taken umbrage with that, but as a single mother it made perfect sense to me. If April were living with them, or even spending holidays/vacations in Stars Hollow, it would make more sense for Lorelai to have more of a relationship with her. I was speaking in relation to Lorelai's friendship with Luke. He was pretty clueless about dealing with a teenager, and even admitted it after he pushed Jess in the lake. As for the bolded part, he was extremely rude and insulting. If a kid came into my home and acted like that, I'd do more than wish I had a cream pie to throw in his face. Jess finally showed some maturity, and I didn't dislike him in the revival. (And I really hated him in the series!) I always thought the acid test would be how he was with Lorelai and Stars Hollow to see if he had changed. It's easy to be nice to Luke and Rory, they were always his defenders. Even his reaction to the woman in the newspaper office was restrained.

Ok, I'll bite. Off the top of my head: Road Trip to Harvard. Girls+Rory freaking out about school and that map always makes me smile. Lorela's first day at Yale. Favourite episode ever. I love episodes that focus on the girls and their relationship. CopperBoom! Christopher Returns. Chris, Lorelai, family drama, and Richard's speech to Lorelai make it an episode I never tire of. Unto the Breach. Rory graduates from college, the thing they were working for the entire series. Plus the Logan and Rory plot. Friday Night is Alright for Fighting. Just for the dinner scenes. Perfection. I Can't Get Started. Chris and Lorelai oof. They break my heart but it's done so well. Plus Rory gives in to temptation with Jess. And... Cinnamon's Wake. Babette's conversation with Lorelai, the town coming together, Luke and Sookie's funny rivalry (why didn't they continue with that?), Emily's reaction when finding out Lorelai skipped a funeral to go to a cat's wake. Plus, Rory and Lorelai talking about Max and navigating the sometimes murky waters when a parent is dating.

It seems the King's advice to him didn't register. I really like Matt Smith but boy, Phillip is testing my last nerve. He was a real bastard to Elizabeth just before she chased him out. I can't either, and I usually like flippant, immature characters. The Papa loved me best thing feels so damn petty. Coupled with her screwing up with some very important people/responsibilities wins Margaret 0 points.

Chris needs Logan's coffee cart guy from Yale to work at his office. I thought it was just put in to be the office complaint about the coffee shtick. I know plenty of cubicle worker bees who love to complain about the coffee at their job.

I can kinda see why she butted in with Jess. Luke had no experience raising a teenager and she did. It's a little invasive but I think her intentions were good. She wanted to help her friend. I do wonder if she wouldn't have pushed so hard in knowing April if Luke wasn't so dead set against it. Add that to everyone had spent time with April except her, and that underlined it even more. Lorelai's desire to be in April's life always felt weird to me. (Seriously, if a guy had been so pushy in having a relationship with Rory, her alarm bells would have gone off.) Lorelai's friendly yet not overbearing attitude in the revival feels more genuine. She has learned how to be dad's girlfriend/step-mom to April and let go of the manic desire to bond with the kid.

I so agree with this. I think Amy said once that Lorelai is the way she is because of Emily and Richard. Also, that Emily is the way she is because Lorelai left and cut off most contact with them for 15 years. Lorelai purposely has the close parental/friend relationship with Rory that she never got with her parents. Some can say it's unhealthy but so is the dysfunction that is the Gilmores relationship with their daughter. Richard I am more lenient on because I had a distant workaholic father too. I know he loved me but I rarely saw him. He lived in another country and I didn't get to know him until I was a teenager. Fathers on this show (with the exception of Luke) are mostly a distant lot. Richard, Christopher, Christopher's dad Straub, Mitchum, Tristan's father, Paris' father, etc. It's a real theme.

That's what I thought too. If you look closely in his office, you can see legal scales. I assumed he took over the family firm.

Agreed. Chris didn't know how to have a relationship with Rory that didn't include Lorelai. Of course this happens in real life, and part of why I like seeing it represented here on the show. If you just judged from most family or sitcom tv shows, you would think no one ever had a unreliable yet charming babydaddy who pops up every so often. Many single mothers have a "Christopher". It happens. It's realistic, and I like seeing it finally shown on a family show.

Forgot to add, the layout and size of Lorelai's house drives me crazy. I try not to think about it because every time I do, it makes no sense. I bring it up only because it was actually something to do with a storyline (where was G.G. going to sleep in season 7).

Agreed! I try to not get too critical about things because most inconsistencies are done for plot reasons. I like my girlie family show, with all it's weird plotholes and changes.

I see them all the time on pinterest or twitter. Do a google image search for in omnia paratus tattoos and you will see them.

Lol that reminds me of all the people who got In Omnia Paratus tattoos.

Funnily enough, Lauren said they filmed it with different reactions. I wish we could have seen their faces better but maybe that was the only way to show them both on screen at the same moment.

It was never revealed if Chris had any siblings. I assume because of his parents attitude that he must go to Princeton and be Mr Big Shot that he was the only child they had. They see Rory as a problem or obstacle that interfered with their big plans for Chris. That's it. She's not a person to them. Straub even implied as much just before he and Richard got into the fight. He doesn't care how intelligent or poised Rory is, it's all about their big dreams being crushed. It's a good thing they weren't part of Rory's life if that's the kind of attitude they would have with their grandchild. Lol! That's my boy. He's kinda clueless but likable (imo, obviously).

Oh I agree. He did get snippy with her, although she kept pushing it. Maybe offence is not the right word. He said he could handle it (or words to that effect), and was getting a little annoyed with Lorelai. I think she would have the same reaction if Luke pushed on anything to do with Rory. Yep. I've now watched them 4 times. I have to watch them as a set, they feel connected in a way. I don't really dislike anything about the revival (except that musical), so it is a feel good story to me. As much as there are parts of season 7 I enjoyed, this revival feels more in tune with the original show. Well, your water and sewer rates go up. If you just have a septic tank, you don't have to pay for a sewer on your water bill. I think they just added it on for Taylor to be doing some wacky town thing.

I loved the Life and Death Brigade scenes, but then I always liked them (especially Finn) on the show. Colin is still a pompous jerk, some things never change. Mostly I loved how happy Rory was to be with them again. She was having some real nostalgia wishing she was in her 20's again, and they gave her a little fun. I don't remember any crimes. They paid (most likely overpaid for their purchases in Doose's) and didn't cause any damage. I thought it was fun and charming to watch.

I thought it was that Luke didn't want Lorelai's money as April was his daughter and he could handle it. And as a proud man he took offence that he couldn't provide for April. Later, it was revealed that they kept their families separate, and I assume that included April in their arrangement. I didn't care for how Luke snapped at her but I understand and agree with his thinking. April is his daughter and he alone (or Anna too if she still exists in this revival) is responsible for her. It's a little weird that she wasn't even mentioned. Like, "I'm seeing mom later" or something. Yeah. I think it also shows their different business philosophies. Luke is happy with his diner and feels no need to expand or change. They showed that pretty clearly in the show. Lorelai has no real issues with growing her business (and she shouldn't. Most small businesses diversify and expand to become more successful. )