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That's also true, and John Blizzard is younger than Lisa's kids. She may not have the heart to just let him go.

That's a good point. I hope if John Blizzard is creating problems, LVP addresses it. John Sessa backs up what LVP said, that she wanted to protect Dorit, but he was furious. He hand-reared Lucy, so he was particularly sensitive about protecting her. It's bizarre how Lisa and Ken think the texts prove Lisa's side, while Teddi thinks the opposite. I am someone who'd want my friend to protect me and my reputation, even if I did mess up. I understand friends keeping it 100, but to me it's different doing it privately. I think that's part of why the other women find the situation upsetting.

This is kind of random, but I have a casting idea for the future.. I know she's not currently a wife so it probably won't happen, but I wonder how Krista Allen would be on this show. For anyone who doesn't know her, she's an actress/comedian who's vegan, appeared as Billie on Days of Our Lives just like Lisa Rinna, and is friends with Denise Richards. She also dated George Clooney. She may bond with dog lover/rescuer LVP and/or call her out for being hypocritical for not being vegetarian. She may have camaraderie with Rinna being Days of Our Lives alum, or maybe there would be a little rivalry. She may be part of a clique since she's friends with at least one of these women, or she may end up being friends with women she didn't meet prior to the show. She probably also has interesting Hollywood stories after her many years in the business and dating one of its biggest movie stars.

Haha yes, we can be unpopular together! At least two veggie girls are better than one! I could write on essay on being vegan, but I won't because I don't want to get in trouble for being off topic. I did want to respond and say much love to you back! 💝

I don't think Erika is malicious, but I agree. I feel like I'd be on edge being friends with her. She's overreacted to Dorit, Eileen, Teddi, and now LVP.

I definitely don't know for a fact that Lucy wasn't traumatized or think that a situation like this is no big deal. I never meant to sound like that. I just look at it from a different standpoint as a vegetarian (mostly vegan) who cares about ALL animals. I don't get how people who eat meat and serve meat at their restaurants think something like this is more outraging than animals who are actually KILLED. I know this isn't a popular opinion as most people eat meat and consider dogs man's best friend. I'm all for people being good to dogs and not treating them like accessories, as I've seen this happen firsthand by people I personally know. However, I wish more people got worked up over all the poor animals who are tortured so terribly in this country. It is heartbreaking.

I don't think Lisa told John to get the Dorit story out there, but I think if she really wanted to protect Dorit, she could have done a better job making sure none of this got out. I am curious what those texts consist of. That may change my thoughts. While it's not good for a dog to be passed around like a toy and wind up in any kind of shelter, no serious harm ever happened to Lucy. As far as I know, none of these people are vegetarian. Way more disgusting things happen to animals in the US (not just China), but since they're not deemed cute enough or animals they want as pets, their pain doesn't matter? I will never understand this. It's not that hard to be a vegetarian, and when you're wealthy, it's even easier to be a vegan. I don't like LVP's jab throwing and find her calculating at times. We all want friends who we feel have our backs and enjoy our friendship. I don't blame Dorit for asking Lisa if she even enjoys being her friend. My opinion is exactly what Lisa said-that Dorit didn't handle the situation the way she should have, but that she didn't have bad intentions. I just wish Lisa would TREAT Dorit as such. She's treating Dorit as though she's truly upset with her. That said, I do think these women need to be more understanding as Lisa's still grieving the shocking death of her only sibling. I don't think it's asking too much for them to not get so defensive with her. I totally get why Kyle and Erika didn't appreciate Lisa making them out to be bad friends. It's just the way they reacted, especially Erika. I don't think Kyle meant to say she had s*** going on too. But Erika's tone defending her condolences, yikes! I felt so bad seeing Lisa trying to keep it together. Really, I don't think Lisa should have been part of this season. This isn't a "normal" job. Who wants to deal with a bunch of drama after losing a loved one? I don't blame Lisa for not wanting to be part of this season to begin with and for not wanting to finish it. To me, all the women have their strengths and weaknesses. I don't find them any of them to be saints or horrible people either. They seem like basically good people who are human and have flaws. Nobody is perfect. Some of the things LVP fans tweet are truly vile and worse than anything the other housewives have said on the show.

Anyone think Erika looks like a blonde Monica Bellucci? I didn't notice it at first because their coloring is so different from each other. I find Erika one of the most beautiful housewives in the whole franchise. My other favorite just in terms of sheer beauty is Joanna Krupa.

Mohamed doesn't seem the type to have a foul mouth. I don't believe it either.

Kyle looked beautiful at that premiere! She really looks so much like Demi Moore.

Ohh that's absolutely true! I meant to say as much in my post. lol

There are definitely housewives who keep it more together than others, but most of them have shown more emotion/are less private in comparison to Erika-Kyle, Kim, Eileen, Brandi, Adrienne, Taylor, even LVP. Lisa and Yolanda are definitely not as mushy as the others, but LVP has teared up over her son, her daughter, her husband, the abusive boyfriend, animal abuse, even just the petty stuff among the other housewives. The difference is Lisa more guarded about her private life and very image conscious in contrast to someone like Brandi. Milage will vary on whether you find her funny, likable, or strong, but I like seeing someone who will stick up for her herself and her friends, not care too much about the petty stuff, but not be a mean girl or mushy. She's just more relatable to me personally. I know I have a good heart but am just not that mushy girl. Some people have asked me if there's anything I do care about! Cause on the outside I sort of have that same don't give many f***s personality Erika has. lol I don't think Erika has been a close friend of Yolanda either, but it's not the first time Bravo has brought in a housewife under false pretense. While one of the reasons I enjoy RHBH is because it seems more real than other reality shows, at the end of the day, this is still entertainment. I do think Erika is someone who seems to be a good friend to those she lets in her circle. She has been very sweet and thoughtful with both Yolanda and Eileen.

I also think Rinna is a naturally beautiful woman, just check out pictures of her when she was younger. She has always been so pretty!

Aw I'm glad someone enjoyed my little rant, Lura! I agree with all the above. :) I think there is more to Erika than her glamorous looks and patting the puss. lol

I will refrain from judging Erika as a mother because I haven't heard anything directly from her or her son. She doesn't seem like a malicious or manipulative woman though, and I love that. I also think she's very beautiful, seems intelligent, and find her talking heads quite funny. What I really like is her strong yet sweet personality. I think it's cool she doesn't feel the need to wear her heart on her sleeve or be super emotional. I've noticed many of the housewives will cry at the drop of a hat. I would never mock someone for crying, but what is wrong with being composed? I don't get this thing that some people have where they think women need to be super soft (or men need to be tough all the time and not allowed to cry or have emotions). We're all different. Just because Erika comes across hard and calls herself cold doesn't mean she's a heartless woman. I know I feel things very deeply and could easily cry when I hear someone's sick, there's a sad movie, anything, but I have an icy exterior just because I am reserved and don't trust most people-women or men-with my heart. I try to hold tears back and am more likely to be the one to comfort someone than I am to cry on someone's shoulder. If the other women feel comfortable pouring their hearts out and crying, I'm not judging that. But a lot of us didn't grow up with parents who consoled us if we cried, or have been hurt by people we confided in. Erika has said she has trust issues, especially with women. I don't think Kathryn is a mean spirited person, but I did not like when she mocked Erika for "shedding six tears." It's comments like that, that make some of feel so uncomfortable being vulnerable. Anyway, I know that's a lot of talk just about emotions/crying, but I just find Erika really refreshing because she is so different from people like Kim or Kyle.

I was a big Brandi fan when she FIRST joined the cast. I felt bad for what she went through with Eddie and the other women on the show. This new pretty blonde on crutches just couldn't catch a break! I also think Brandi can be very funny and entertaining. But season after season she just became more hateful. She put her spot on the show above the other women and their families, and that was just not a good look. (LVP is sort of like a milder version.) You don't spill private information or try to embarrass people just for the sake of a storyline, not cool. What she went through with her ex was awful, but God blessed her with looks and opportunities that most single moms don't get. Brandi could have still been making good money being on television, but instead of being grateful she just seemed jealous of people who have more money or happy marriages. I do wish her well-I know she's one of the few who could actually use that Bravo paycheck. A part of me wishes she could filter herself, be kinder to the other women, and rejoin.

Bingo! I totally understand if Lisa did not want to talk about painful stuff from decades ago. I totally disagree that it's necessary to talk about hurtful things in order bond and build friendships. It's just that she doesn't always show empathy for the other women and repeatedly dares them to ask her "anything" after she has probed too much. Asking how the women's husbands are in the sack, "affairs," serious family issues, the children, cheating rumors, those are all touchy subjects for the other women but she doesn't care. As for whether or not she's being truthful about the abuse, I don't know. There are times Lisa doesn't seem as honest and open as she likes to portray imo. However, just because she once said she hadn't experienced it doesn't mean she's lying. I have lied about not going through certain things just because in the moment I was uncomfortable discussing everything. And it's possible she truly did shove that time of her life out of her mind because it was too painful and so many years ago. She's been with Ken almost her entire adult life. I think what hurt Eileen is the lack of empathy. I'm one who thinks Lisa sounded almost judgmental in her blog. Like "sorry, you went through that but why discuss it? It's pointless to talk about, not good juice for the show! I've been through abuse myself but don't talk about it!" I understand that Eileen brought up her past sort of randomly, but I agree that it does help other women not feel so ashamed of going through domestic violence and helps get to know Eileen better. I am sure a lot of people were surprised that a beautiful, successful woman like Eileen who most men would kill to be with had been with such abusive men.

Kyle Richards-Return, she's an anchor of the show. She seems to be a kind person at her core, yet she's not afraid of a little drama. Also great to see her beautiful family. Lisa Vanderpump-Return, love her or hate her, she's another anchor of the show and seems to be the fan favorite every year. As much as I don't always like how she treats other cast members, she is one of the smarter h'wives, charismatic and charming, brings the lifestyle porn, etc. She's basically perfect for reality television, except for wanting to play the victim season after season. Yolanda Hadid-Return depending on what's going on with her life. It might be interesting to see a newly single Yolanda date and not have it be all about whether or not she's sick. She has lead an interesting life until this point. The rags to riches story, being a former model, having very interesting ex husbands (and boyfriends) and now celebrity children. I just don't see this woman as ever being dull. Lisa Rinna-Return. She's not afraid of the drama! Plus she embodies Beverly Hills, her career, her husband, her lifestyle, just perfect for the show. Eileen Davidson-Return one more season just to leave on a good note (she doesn't need the show to stay on indefinitely). She's gotten a lot of flack for going against LVP, but I still think she seems like the sweetest person in the cast. And I find her entertaining just because she is so likable to me. She was something without the show, very beautiful, talented, brings what Beverly Hills is all about, and isn't vicious to other cast members. Erika Girardi-Return. She's beautiful, has the lifestyle porn, and I like her talking heads. It would be interesting to hear more about her story. Also think she has a good heart despite the "cold" exterior. Kathryn Edwards-Neutral. She's a beautiful, wealthy woman seems to have a sweetness about her despite putting Erika on blast, but she doesn't carry the show the way some of the others do. Kim Richards-Leave. The show doesn't seem healthy for her. Brandi Glanville-Leave. She can definitely give good TV, but she can be vicious on the other cast members imo. A part of me does wish she could join and be milder because I know she could use the pay check more than any of the other women.

Exactly. Having a former model mom coaching you and promoting you on TV, your father is one of the richest dudes around, you live in California, you have a Guess Jeans connection, of course it was way easier for Gigi to become a successful model than some random beautiful girl in the Midwest without any wealth or connections.

Oh gosh, I'm not a Yolanda hater, but of course Gigi and Kendall have greatly benefitted from their connections. That's not to say they're not hardworking, beautiful YOUNG WOMEN (not children anymore). I don't think Rebecca Romijn meant any harm with what she said, no big deal.

Ditto. Kim's the one who's most soapy, and to be honest, I find her scenes to be the most boring, even when everything's so emotional and dramatic. At least Rinna's shenanigans are entertaining. I remember Kim crying about missing her daughter who went off to college, and while I'm sure it's tough, based on a reunion preview, some viewers thought thought she was talking about a deceased loved one, maybe Big Kathy. And LVP has some nerve calling anybody a C-list actress considering her own acting credits. She trained as a child to be an actress, had the means to move to Hollywood when she was young, was not above doing revealing sex scenes, and she STILL never even became close to being a C-list star. I understand it's a tough industry so I'm not judging her for not becoming Julia Roberts. But some people have called her a Baywatch star as if she were Pamela Anderson or Carmen Electra. She appeared on one episode of Baywatch Nights! And let's not pretend Vanderpump Rules is above Days of Our Lives. Love them or hate them, both Rinna and Eileen made the $ they do have on their own. They're not failed actresses who mailed much older businessmen and built upon their husbands' success. I'm a huge fan of Eileen. With Lisa Rinna, I do like her on the show (the way I enjoy watching LVP and Kyle) just because I find her entertaining. She has a sense of humor and embodies what Beverly Hills is all about. I do wish she'd have more of a filter and were less messy, but I'm just not convinced she's this awful, malicious liar yet. She seems honest imo. Anyway, I hope they keep Rinna on the show. Maybe I have a soft spot for both her and Eileen because I grew up watching them on television, but I tend to think I'd enjoy watching them regardless.

Kathryn was very sweet towards Kim (very touching moment between them actually), but it is definitely easier for her to be compassionate towards her than it is for some of the others who don't have the greatest history with her. I like to believe both Eileen and Rinna genuinely want the best for Kim. You can find someone to both have been a jerk to you and still wish that person well from the bottom of your heart. There are people who have not always been the nicest to me, but I don't wish them the struggle Kim has gone through. I know I didn't like what I saw of her last season, but I want her to be strong in her sobriety. This is a life. It's beyond me that anyone would NOT want her to be a happy, healthy person. That said, it did irk me that Kim made the soap dig and called Eileen dramatic. Kim is one of the most dramatic housewives who's been on the show! She's given OTT reactions on many occasions. Is she given a pass because of her issues? I don't judge those who cry easily, but both Richards sisters can get very "soapy," teary, "dramatic" over anything. It sometimes makes for good TV (sometimes boring when it's over the same issues, over and over AND over). And I suspect Kim and LVP might be jealous of Eileen being a successful actress. Kim was only successful as a child. LVP trained to be an actress as a child and even moved to Hollywood many years ago, but her career never took off. (Kim may have signed up for the show due to the $, but I think the only reason LVP is on the show is for the fame she never got as an actress. We all know she's got enough money and then some.) Neither woman would be anything in terms of celebrity/fame without RHBH, Eileen and Rinna were each "somebody" before housewives. And calling them "Soapy and sudsy" won't change that. As for the initial conversation between LVP and Eileen, does anyone else remember that Eileen was clearly uncomfortable? She did not flat out say she did not want to answer those questions, but she was visibly uncomfortable, said she was "being grilled," Rinna's expression looked like she couldn't believe what she was hearing, and Kyle said something along the lines of "if you have an English accent you can be mean and it's okay." LVP did not care about any of this she was just like "no, it's good." The woman's very intrusive and aggressive! I think she's smart enough to know Eileen was not "good" with the conversation, she just didn't care. I also suspect that's why Mohamed responded with the kids being fine and leaving it at that. He did not want to go into detail with her, in Lisa's words, his way of saying "shut up." And look what happened on the show! I like Kyle and don't think LVP ever meant to hurt the kids, but I do think they both discussed this off camera then brought it up on the show, just for, well, the show. Why else would Lisa say, "If Yolanda says they have it, they have it. What does Mohamed say? No. He says Yolanda's the only one who has it." While I don't think I would have reacted the way Yolanda did, I totally get why she was pissed. That conversation did not sound organic or innocent to me. And again, another situation LVP is too smart for. She seriously thought Mohamed and Yolanda would appreciate her saying one of them is lying about the kids' health? I don't think so. Even if it was Kyle's idea to bring it up and Lisa was not prepared to answer the question, Lisa seems to think everyone should know exactly what to say in the moment. She expected as much from Eileen. Why didn't she immediately shut that conversation down? She's got a strong personality, certainly not afraid to say what she thinks is right or wrong. (Unlike Eileen who's not aggressive without being provoked.) As for Yolanda's own sickness... I've never gone through what she has with being physically sick for so long. But I have been through very dark times (wasn't sure if I could go on or not) when it seems like even those who should get it don't believe me because of the way I look. I would get told "but you're so pretty, you have this kind of body, what do you have to be sad about" blah blah. (And truth be told, I was nowhere near as attractive as I was once, I just sort of changed gradually and looked more put together than the average person. Some people just thought I looked sad and that I should smile more.) If you don't look like you're dying, let's say you have most of your hair, you're not very overweight or very underweight, you dress decently, people don't always see a sick person. The times I've experienced people being most concerned about me is when I had an eating disorder and was very underweight. I've also experienced family members not knowing how unwell I really feel until they see me having a panic attack or that I won't stop throwing up, whatever it is. If you try to look your best and not always share what you're going through, people think everything's perfect. That may be part of the reason Yolanda didn't always want a makeup artist or wanted people to know certain procedures she was having done. Some people will just see this beautiful, strong, athletic blonde who must be healthy because she has good days. I'm not saying I'm 100% on her side with everything RHBH. At times I know I personally would have let certain things go or just communicated differently, but I believe the woman really has been very sick and can understand a lot of where she's coming from.

Yeah I remember some viewers were very cruel and harsh to Faye. I don't think Kathryn or the vast majority of RHBH fans would ever condone death threats to her. It's absolutely disgusting that some people went that far. What I didn't like was Kyle trying to minimize Kathryn's feelings and not allowing her to have opinions. It's not Kathryn's fault some people out there were so mean and aggressive to Faye.

Actually, Joyce and Kyle are the only ones I'm convinced Lisa seems to genuinely like. I'm not sure she genuinely likes Kathryn yet or just needs an ally for RHBH. What Lisa said about Taylor just this season didn't sound very friendly to me at all. And Carlton admitted Lisa was done with her once the show was over. I actually am not judging Lisa for not being close friends with all these women. I think most of us only truly become close friends with a select group of people we connect with. I DO think it says something when Eileen, Rinna, Adrienne, Kyle, Kim, Brandi, Camille, Erika, Taylor, Yolanda, literally pretty much everyone but Kathryn and Joyce feel Lisa is either "strategic, phony, Bobby Fischer, a hollywood friend, doesn't genuinely like them, makes mean comments, or stirs the pot." I think Eileen sees LVP similar to how I do. We think she's actually kind of fabulous and does a lot of good for animals and different charities, but that she's not a girl's girl or true friend to most of these housewives. That's why Eileen and the others get hurt. Lisa is first and foremost a business woman. I feel so bad that Eileen is getting all this backlash. She seems too kind and normal for this show. And unlike some of these other failed actresses, she doesn't need RHOBH to be on camera. (I wonder if LVP is actually jealous of Eileen's success as an actress. While she may have more money than she knows what to do with, her childhood dream of being a successful actress never came true.) I'd love for her to stay just because I AM a fan and hope she can end the show on a positive note, but truth be told she doesn't need the money or the added fame and is too good for it.

I thought Lisa was trying to be a good sport and be sweet and supportive too, especially since she judged Erika at first for her Erika Jayne showgirl persona. I'm confused who's telling the truth between the two Lisas, but I think the truth may be somewhere in the middle. I don't see LVP as that malicious or that messy with her manipulations, but I do see her as very calculating and putting storylines above friendships with the other women. I know Yolanda can seem aggressive with the other housewives sometimes, but my heart broke for her when the discussion about her sickness being a storyline kept going on and on and she walked off the stage. When you really don't feel well and people don't believe you, it hurts. I'm sure it's hard enough just going through being sick for so long, without having people snark on you, mocking you, commenting on your appearance left and right. I really wish her well. Regarding Faye, I think some people have definitely been over the top with the mean comments about her. She didn't kill anybody, and the book, while in poor taste and not something I condone, was so many years ago. I'm even fine with her being a regular cast member on the show. That said, Kathryn is 100% entitled to her feelings. Vanderpump was OTT with her comments about Faye imo given their history, but Kathryn's feelings towards Faye are not over petty bs. I love that Kyle defends Faye and puts her friendship with her above what viewers think, but I'm sorry Faye DID sign up for this when she agreed to appear on camera this season. Kathryn wasn't going after some harmless woman for no reason or hitting below the belt. I think she handled things the best way she knew. I still love Eileen and feel bad for the backlash she's getting. I really think she's probably the nicest person on the show. It will be interesting to see the rest of the reunion.