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I don't know much about Kesley, but I did see that with Camille. She enjoyed showing off her perfect little figure, discussed her "beautiful breasts" in front of the husbands, bragged about their lifestyle, and Kelsey's fame. I remember her saying Kyle was jealous of her and called Mauricio the local Beverly Hills realtor, compared to big, huge star Kelsey Grammar. I've never hated Camille, but some of the things she said season 1 really were not nice, and then the comments about LVP a couple episodes ago weren't the sweetest. I've never seen her as someone who's intentionally mean, but she can when be she's drunk or her feelings are hurt. I do think she's good TV, can laugh at herself, and smart enough to not keep making the same mistakes (for the most part).

I wonder if we'll ever see that addressed on the show. We found out the truth about Taylor and Russell.

Yeah Mauricio is hot even though he’s not typically my type. Ken is adorable. Harry is an attractive guy. Denise’s hubby is also good-looking.

I actually am really interested in the one with Mauricio just because I do like him.

Eek. I don’t like how LVP was treated this year. I think most of the housewives could have been more gentle and kind when she was vulnerable. However, in the other women’s defense, there were multiple lawsuits against her that were never brought up either. The single one that was brought up was by Rinna.

I’m very sorry Readheaded. *hugs back* You’re not alone in feeling that way, and I do think our experiences help us understand people better.

Eve looks amazing! I also think she’s great on the show.

My heart broke for Sheryl when she talked about her mother. I know my mother loves me. I really think she’d take a bullet for me. However a lot of my childhood she could be incredibly cruel and mentally abusive. She would get rough with me sometimes, but the physical stuff never resulted in a black eye or any type of injury. It was almost entirely mental/emotional. I always envied my friends who were super close to their mothers. Because of my mom’s lack of affection and sometimes really mean comments, it made me really appreciate anytime a woman older than me was warm and motherly, gave me a hug, paid me a compliment, made me feel pretty. All I wanted was to be adored by my mom the way my friends were. So even though I always had a mother who did do a lot for me, I can easily empathize with people who feel their parents don’t love them. It’s a horrible feeling, especially for a child. Your parents should make you feel loved and safe. Sheryl is a very special and strong person.

That’s me too. If I go out looking a mess, which is very rare, it’s when I am only getting something from a drive through window. Even then, I’m clean, fully dressed, and have sunglasses. I don’t see anything wrong with a parent wearing PJ’s if they’re not getting out of the car. Now should one leave the house without washing their face, brushing their teeth, or be seen in a slinky negligee? No. I don’t think you should would wear anything that would embarrass your child should someone get a glimpse of you. I just don’t see the point of a stay at home mom getting all dressed up if she’s only driving back home and not heading to an office. Now if you’re going inside the school, no PJ’s or anything obviously outrageous.

I agree with a lot of this, definitely about Vinnie. That’s a hot man!!!

What are yours? I'd miss Lisa Rinna if she left. I find her funny. I like that when it comes to being a shit stirrer, she does "own it." I believe that Dorit didn't dump the puppy-just didn't follow proper protocol and was trying to protect her kids. I'm an animal lover and don't think she's a horrible person for it. (If it turns out she did hand the pup to a kill shelter herself, different story.) Erika is entertaining. Eileen Davidson was a favorite housewife of mine. Brandi wasn't always wrong. I don't know what goes on in Kyle's mind, but I think she's got a beautiful life and has absolutely no reason to be jealous of anybody-not Lisa, Kim, Brandi, or Camille. Not sure if this is unpopular or not but haven't seen it said-I think Joyce is up there with LVP as one of the most intelligent housewives. Andy Cohen does a great job.

You’re absolutely correct about the abortion stance. I specifically mean feminist as far as motherhood isn’t a must for all women. I don’t know if Meghan knows that some anti feminists might judge her for being a career woman and possibly never a mother. To be clear, I am pro-choice and baffled by Meghan in the same way you and blondiec0332 are. I’m glad I’m not alone in how I feel about the attitude towards motherhood. 🙂

I apologize if this is getting too OT, but I am a woman around Meghan’s age, and while I am by no means Meghan’s biggest fan, I understand why she’s defensive when motherhood is brought up. People tend to see women who are mothers as superior to childless women. Mothers are seen as more noble, selfless, kind, nurturing, etc. A lot of people judge childless women as selfish, immature, cold, and uncaring. The attitude can be “How dare you not have kids? Your parents deserve grandchildren!” I know many mothers who got pregnant in the first place because they were irresponsible, don’t look after their kids as they should, are abusive, just not the best people. Yet everyone gushes over everything about them and the whole process-gender reveal parties, baby showers, baby bumps, breastfeeding, etc. I’ve known career women who’ve busted their butts to make something of themselves, and their best friends didn’t bother to show up at their graduation ceremonies, no gifts, nothing. I personally think all big moments need to be celebrated-not just marriage and babies. People don’t push parenthood as much on men, but I’ve also heard people say “there is something wrong with people who don’t have children,” or “when you’re a parent, you’ll understand” very condescendingly to both men and women. One of my friends has been trying to have a baby for awhile now, and people judge her for it not having happened yet. The poor girl has had a hard time getting pregnant, and she’s had a lot of insensitive comments made to her. Some people simply don’t want kids. Some have had horrible childhoods, and sexual trauma in particular can have a lot of effects on how a woman feels about pregnancy. What I do find interesting is that a lot of the anti feminists are the ones who really praise motherhood and believe society is against mothers and that mothers don’t get enough praise. They think feminism is the reason for a lot of today’s problems. Meghan doesn’t like to call herself a feminist, but I think her view on motherhood is feminist. It should be a choice, not something you have to do to be a complete woman. To me shaming childless women is just as bad as shaming women whose dream is to be a stay at home mom, and I don’t think one has to be a parent to have good points on parenthood.

I agree with this. I love seeing loving pet owners who are good to their animals, but a dog is a dog. I would never let a pet drink out of someone’s champagne glass or bring them every single place I go. I like to eat at vegan restaurants too, and at a lot of those places, dogs are welcome but must be outside. I just don’t want to think about the people who have their dogs eating/drinking out of their plates/glasses.

Some of them make big $.

I like seeing a little bit of all the women with their kids. Dorit's kids are absolutely adorable. I don't know if anyone has an opinion on the adult children, but I also like seeing them. It was cool to see Pandora's wedding, and nice to see her and Max at Lisa's birthday. LVP's kids seem sweet. They didn't bash the other women, just wanted to be there for their mother. I also like to see Kyle with her family. She seems so grateful for her husband and daughters. I really think as much as Kyle loves her designer handbags and jewelry, she'd still be happy with Mauricio and her girls living a humble life. My only concern is if a kid says or does something that may result in teasing at some point.

I remember that. It rubbed lots of people the wrong way. I wonder if Ken was trying to make Rosio feel better in his own awkward way? However there are instances where I get the snob vibe from both of them. Do you remember when they were in Amsterdam and Lisa made fun of the guy Yolanda had apparently dated/kissed but didn’t remember. Lisa said to Yolanda “All this could have been yours,” referring to the man’s humble life. I like both Ken and Lisa. I think they’re an intelligent, hardworking couple with a wonderful marriage and family. They seem like decent people who now and then are out of touch. Most people do not marry people like Mohamed Hadid or David Foster. Most people don’t remodel their kitchen and say part of the reason is having a fight with a friend in it. But I suppose some of that is to be expected from RH of Beverly Hills. Adrienne Maloof could barely make PB&J and thought she should wash chicken with hand soap. 😂

Kyle gets criticized a lot for being friends with Faye. Interesting that people are now criticizing Lisa and Ken for their friendship with the Kemsleys. What I find weird is Lisa’s close friendship with Mohamed. Maybe I don’t get it because I’m not wealthy like him, nor his age, nor a man, but I think it’s gross how he dates women his children’s age, and apparently cheats on them too! He seems sleezy to me. Maybe it’s just the Beverly Hills thing for rich old men to be messing around with as many beautiful young girls they can get? I also thought it was weird for Lisa to be so close to Mohamed but not Yolanda. Most women don’t like their husbands having isolated close friendships with women, especially attractive ones like Lisa. I’ve been critical of LVP (more during other seasons) but still like her and don’t think she deserves the treatment she’s getting this season, especially given she’s already vulnerable. I know there are always those extreme fans. I know some of them would strongly disagree with my criticisms of LVP and chew me out for daring to criticize her, but viewers who see some flaws (we all have em) but still think she’s fabulous exist. I can say I do think she prefers the others to be in the middle of the drama and that she doesn’t handle confrontation well. I see how that frustrates the other women when they’ve had to deal with more painful personal stuff and don’t exactly have fun having to be in the center of the bs. I can say she’s been insensitive to the other women’s feelings at times. But I think she’s a charming, kindhearted, hardworking, intelligent businesswoman who is gorgeous, glamorous, witty, feeds the homeless, rescues dogs, has a loving husband and children. I respect and admire her for all that. I have no problem with the ladies dancing and being silly and excited. I like to see them having a good time and not fighting. These women see their fair share of famous folks, so it’s cool they’re not jaded and still get starstruck. I don’t think you’re ever too old for something like Coachella either. There’s a gentle sweetness to Denise Richards that hasn’t been in almost any of the other women on RHBH, not really any of the other current cast members imo. I know she got with Heather Locklear’s ex, and that’s not cool in my book. But I think she’s a kind person who is human. She is handling everything really well so far, just too much sex talk tor me. I have yet to see a mean bone. I didn’t think PK’s joke was funny. Maybe he has a good sense of humor, but that particular joke fell flat. With LVP, I find a lot of her jokes funny actually, but there are some I think are mean. While playful banter can be fun, I think friends should lift one another up. If no one’s laughing, the joke probably wasn’t funny. If the joke makes your friend look bad or is regarding something sensitive, it probably wasn’t nice. I also can’t stand passive aggressive stuff. Say what you want to say. Don’t be an ass and say you’re just kidding. I know LVP and PK say it’s their English humor, but Americans do that too-saying something hurtful but the person on the receiving end is not supposed to be upset because it’s a joke. I’m with Kyle. No “hahaha,” then it’s not really a joke. I did think Rinna’s talking heads were funny. Probably unpopular opinion, but I’d miss Rinna if she were gone. She can say and do crazy things, but I do like her humor. Does anyone else want an unpopular opinion thread? 🙂

I completely agree with Brooke Shields regarding the "power of fashion" comment JLo made. I had her exact same thought when I saw the clip. It was sex making the statement with those dresses. Jennifer Lopez's dress was a sensation due to how revealing it was.

😂 I do like Denise, but she sure talks about her sex life a lot. Call me a prude, but I don't care for it.

We never know who’s giving money to various charities or who gives their time without the cameras around. However, the only other housewife who seemed as passionate about giving back as LVP was Joanna Krupa from Miami. I really respect both women for doing so much because not everyone with the means does.

I was surprised this guy was still alive too. I’m so, so sorry about your niece Raiderred. I will never understand how people can become such monsters. It’s good your niece has a caring family that is making sure she gets the best help she can. I wish I knew why stuff like this even happened. No child or woman should have to experience such trauma.

That definitely applied to Brandi and Yolanda. Lol! I don’t remember Kyle having a problem with Joyce, but that’s funny.

^ Thanks Rosiejuliemom and MrsWitter! Lala doesn't sound like my cup of tea, but I suppose people like her make for entertaining TV? lol

Lol, curious, what is Lala Kent's feminism? I tried watching VP Rules (couldn't get into it), and all I remember about her is that she liked being provocative and taking her top off in front of the guys. Then she wouldn't understand why some of the girls didn't take to her. I think she's probably the prettiest girl on that show, but she was too provocative for my taste. The only other thing I remember about her treatment of women is that she fat shamed, but I think she only did that when not so nice things were said about her? Could be wrong, I didn't get invested into any of those people the way I became with RHBH.