Uncle JUICE

TO be fair, maybe somewhere on the cutting room floor at MTV studios is the day Jenelle and Jace spent at a soup kitchen, serving the less fortunate, or miles of footage about the charity Jenelle is starting for pregnant teens who feel like they have no where to turn, or the hundreds of hours of animal rescue work she does? Or maybe the vacations she sends Barb on as a thank you for raising her kid. Or her work with emotionally troubled teens. Or her going to school to be a medical assistant. Or her pursuing her numerous hobbies and passions with her children. To quote Arrested Development again... (FOOTAGE NOT FOUND)

Janelle's already there! Leah's been left out. She must be extra boring this week. Obviously Jenelle's going to prove why she's the series MVP this week.

I'll go first: "Leah misunderstands something, and one of her baby's fathers is to blame."

But couldn't the argument be made that it would also vilify their talent in some way, and is therefore best glossed over? I don't think this show was as big when she fucked Jo behind Jordan's back, but wouldn't there be some trepidation about backlash? Just playing devil's advocate.

Why would MTV want to deal with her when she isn't making money for them, though? In other words, she goes from a property that generates revenue directly to a tangential "used to be star" who is just an overhead line item? Once you get off the airwaves, you're in "the business." Do you think she's going to take a $50K a year job. when she's made so much more in the last couple of years? That's why I think her degree, the pursuit of which is commendable, is pointless. No one's first job anywhere in any industry pays $300K a year, that's like international arms dealer consiglierie sort of level. She'll be working from a totally warped perspective, and producer friend or not, when it comes down to it, to pay one person X and the other 2X or more to do the job with an indiscernible difference in quality (she's not going to be doing investigative journalism, she's going to be saying "Nice shirt, The Weekend, who do you think will win best kiss tonight???"), no one in their right mind goes with the 2X candidate. And that's presuming she'll deign to take $100K a year. For what, one, two events.

Except they can hire prettier on air talent for literally 70% less than they pay her right now, and that person will have no demands, no agent, no manager, no bullshit.

Harsh but 100% true, I'm afraid. She might be able to be like the traffic reporter on the local Dover fox affiliate Monday mornings, but she's not going to do a red carpet show. I'm a gargoyle myself, you just have to lean into it and do something you can do. I can do lots of things...Kailynn's going to realize she can be on TV, but she can only do so as an MTV property.

Thanks for not pointing out the mistaken capitalization of Senator, as if he were on the hockey team, rather than senator :). And when I heard "weightlifting competition," I thought it was like some big statewide deal. Instead, it looked like he bench pressed more than about three other people in his weight class at his local gym. I mean what the fuckin' fuck? I imagined that like the retro fitness in Vermillion sent him to like the Black Hills Regional competition, among all the local retro fitnesses or something. Nope, just that janky ass gym with his five members and the guy who owns the place.

Maybe it wasn't section eight, but that program was not for single mothers, it was for victims of domestic violence who were seeking someplace safe to stay, as I recall. She had to at least imply that Jo had hit her in order to qualify, she had to say that she feared for her safety. Neither was true. The rogram itself is immaterial, but she absolutely scammed it. I am not saying I don't understand why she did it, but she did it. pretty sure it was that house where she tried to steal her mom's TV, because she HAD a good place to stay that was safe, she just didn't like it. Because she was a slob and her mom's boyfriend wrote a note to that effect.

It sounds skeevy to say, but that's absolutely right: she agreed to be in a play that had nudity in it. She has plenty of chances to quit, instead, she takes THE LEAST professional route you can take, and fucks over how many people involved in the production in the process? Because as I recall, that was a show that was going to go on for more than one showing, right? Basically now they'd have to suspend production while they find another lead. What an asshole indeed. Also, no fucking Stuart at this big play? Did they break up alreadY?

The answer is yes, because there's no evidence to the contrary. The difference between these people and the real world people is continuity: RW cast changes every year, number one. Number two is our current state of fascination as a culture is with FAME, not accomplishment to achieve it. Just fame for fame's sake. Do you think a member of any Real World cast in the last fifteen years would be a Senator (as one is currently)? I don't want to sound like a cranky old man, but seriously, none of them are doing anything remotely intelligently (excpet Maybe Chelsea because she's the one with the dad who's familiar with how to manage financial resources). Think about this: Jenelle has lived in at least three different homes in the last four years...all rentals. She's had a brand new charger, a hummer, a jeep, all in that driveway. But the woman who takes care of her son, who's responsible for the well being of what's supposed to be the most important person on earth to Jenelle, still works at a Walmart deli. Not that there's anything wrong with that, my point is Jenelle can at least HELP with that situation, if she weren't a total monster.

They did all that when she was making a less-than-celebrity living from TM, I think. Once they upped it to $300K plus fees for appearances, why would she drive 40 minutes for 12 hours a week, basically. You can track itbased on the houses they live in: one year Kail's scamming the government out of section eight housing and falsely accusing someone of beating her, two years later she's on her second single family home in Delaware, all with no additional degree or full time job. It's a fundamental problem with the show's premise: it's gone. In fairness, her "situation" was the only one that included a loaded dad to foot some of her bills, so that's a situation that's a little easier to make the best of than, say, Kailynn's. At least at the outset.

Come to think of it, it does seem like Jenelle mostly skips the step where the girls default to "It's going to be a while before I introduce him to my child," and instead is like "Wait, you have a sibling? can they watch my kid, are they of age?" It's strange.

I believe it's a paid event, for sure, but that doesn't make it better. But in the same light above, then the next time Janelle demands to see Jace, Babs can just say fuck no and sue me. Which is fine. Why can't Lurch's sister watch Jace? Or, why not bring Jace to NJ?

Couldn't agree more here. The way it sounds, Deshawn is basically a bench player. If he were a guy they were willing to cheat the system to make sure he played, wouldn't they get someone they KNEW would play ball for him, as it were, academically? If he were so big time a prospect, he wouldn't give a fuck about any of this as he's on his way out of school by the end of his freshman year. Also, why is he taking Sociology? They should have an entire program of cupcake classes for big time athletes who are an academic risk. The thing that bothers me most of all is that Brandon never once says "If you say anything to the professor, you will lose more than your academic eligibility, you lose the scholarship entirely, you have far more to lose than I do. If they investigate me fucking my professor's wife, a woman' whose class I don't even take, my worst case scenario is likely they refund the money for those credits and I go on my merry way, and I can probably leverage THAT into credit for a A in the class to keep my mouth shut. They will do it to keep me from suing them as a university and the professor personally, for gross misconduct, as he'd have me failing me without supporting grades to do so. Why? Simply for fucking, with her consent, a fellow adult woman with no apparent relation to Randall in the first place. I will be fine. If YOU say something, the NCAA will get involved, and you'll be on the outs with big college programs, so I hope that as a bench player with your 11 minutes a game in dump time, you have enough cache to be a third round draft pick. Otherwise, I hope you speak Hebrew, because you're going to play someplace in Europe. That's YOUR best case. So shut the fucking TV off, stop pulling my fucking dick over this lady, and let's get through this, dude."

Per Chelsea, they said they were happy Aubree had Cole to go with for the father daughter dance. In the end, I don't get why Chelsea would give a shit about that affirmation...there's no objective measure by which Adam isn't a shitbag father through and through. Having his parents say they're happy Cole is there advances to ball not one more yard, it's just dumb.

I think you mean dramastic. .

So let me see if I have this episode's plots right: Leah decides Miranda and Corey aren't evil. Kailynn is in pre-divorce mode. Jenelle is insane and disappointed that Barbra can't help her celebrate spring break. Chelsea's pig farts. Without the last nauseating scene between Jenelle and Babs, this show would have been a total loss tonight. Terrible. Of course, given how many observations I read here, I might change my mind, but seriously.

Unfortunately she does not have a face for entertainment reporting, though. I hate to say it, but TV's harsh like that. You don't need a broadcast journalism degree from Delaware State to do that, you need to be broadly considered attractive (like Mario Lopez is Woodward or Bernstein?). You need a pretty face to stand next to third rate Kardashian and ask what they think of the latest reboot of Garfield The Movie. Hell, look no further than Siennica or whatever that aftershow host is named...think she has a broadcast journalism degree, or is just pretty and can read cue cards? I'm not an attractive guy, but I'm not imagining myself in tv, either. .

I can see your point, but to me, we're talking different degrees of nothing. I mean seriously, Kailyn, when she's done with school, do we expect that she'll go produce some news segments somewhere? Maybe we're not being shown all of their work because that's boring. In any case, none of these people post-MTV, if that ever happens, are going to have some impact on society. They're all going to end up doing some form of ass-sittery, it'll just be climbing down the rungs of reality tv until they're on Marriage Boot Camp All Stars, season 11.

That's dark, but makes a lot of sense. At least an even money chance, I guess. Either way, blaming the miscarriage and the miscarriage alone seems narrow.

Seconded. This is nothing more than deadbeat dad behavior. After six neglectful years, he isn't owed any benefit of doubt.

Okay, but how's that any different than what most of these moms do? Or what Kailyn did with Javi (marry him for beneifts)? Or when kailyn moved to Delaware against judge's orders (mainly to accomodate her benefits, or cynically to make life more difficult for Jo, who blew the plan up by moving to her neighborhood)? The fact is like it or not, this is a legitimate source of income for these dummies, so why isn't he entitled to take advantage of it? We need to let go of the idea that they're ever going to get real jobs, like we have to have. It's just not going to happen so long as they have MTV. This is no longer a study of pverty in America, as it was early in its run (remember Kailyn scammed section 8 housing?). It's now a study of unwarranted fame and its effects. Jo's the dad, he's involved. We'd all take easy money, the problem is these kids have only KNOWN easy money.

Here's an idea: why not TALK TO YOUR DAUGHTER once in a while? Call her and just see how things are going at school, she'd mention it to you. You dont have to talk to Chelsea any more than to politely say "Can I talk to Aubree?" Even if it's on speakerphone.

Why doesn't Adam have the responsibility to "do it for your child", though? Okay, so you're saying he's naturally irresponsible, mending that isn't his baby mama's job anymore. I just don't think she has any responsibility to that at all, after all the repeated disinterest he's shown. Fuck that guy, if he's so interested, let him change his ways. But he's not going to.