Uncle JUICE

Watched it, loved it. So much better than the initial iterations of this program (the California football school notwithstanding). I like Mosley, too, he seems to have a grip on what he's up to and what role he plays for the kids. He's never once told a kid "you'll be playing in the NBA if you play for me," he is more focused on getting them to listen and succeed and grow.

So does Five Guys.

I wasn't having a nightmare, then, and that was indeed someone's erection they zoomed in on???

We were watching this and both my wife and I reacted MOST strongly to that lady's revelation that she was taking out of her 401K to fund this inmate business. Not that she's dating an inmate. We were a little put off with her roping her poor daughter, in her senior year, into this relocation fiasco. When she said "So I'm taking money out of my 401K" we actually had to pause the TV and discuss what a terrible decision that is, on every level. Fuckin' show.

On a different topic...wasn't Corlys described as "gravely and potentially mortally wounded"? He's walking around like he rolled his ankle. Couldn't disfigure him a little?

THis is true but it's also one of the neatest things about stuff like that in Martin's writing. Like the curse of Harrenhal, is that why Harwin and Lyonel Strong are burned alive there? Are kinslayers really accursed (he does have to basically become a fugitive after he kills Tywin) or is that sort of read onto it in retrospect. Like the man said, prophecies (and curses) are like half trained mules. THe minute you trust it, you get kicked in the face by it. My only point is that real or not, it's a HUGE taboo in Westeros. Probably enough to have kept Rhaenys from burning the whole green team.

First of all, Storm's End looks to me like a somehow shittier version of Pike. And I'm not sure how people would NOT think (which is essentially "know" as far as small folk go) that not only did Aemond and Vaghar commit violence under the banner of peace, which is a major no-no, but Aemond is a kinslayer. The world of the show has always held that there are none more accursed than a kinslayer, so I'd expect a major league issue for Aemond. And as far as how they'd know he did it, the evidence is pretty clear. First, both he and Jace were seen simultaneously at Storm's End. Second, both had words and clearly Aemond was going to assault Jace. Third, you're going to find pieces of a dragon. Even if you want to assume no one on the ground saw these two dragons going at each other, how many wild (unaccounted for) dragons are there that are large enough to chomp an adolescent dragon in two? Kinda underwhelmed by this episode, not going to lie. I thought it dragged in a couple of places (maybe one or two less Rhaenyra graphically miscarrying, and the Arrax / Vaghar tension was one scene too long). I like what it accomplished, I just wish it had been a little tighter in spots.

Any time...that guest rite thing is like one of the oldest and most sacred laws / traditions in Westeros, it's the only way to end conflict short of total destruction of your opponent. Your enemy has to be able to trust that if you're invited to a parlay, you're not lying in wait to ambush them. It's why Cat Stark asked for some snacks as soon as she and Rob walked into Frey's stronghold.

AH yes, that's right...except Cole was well into the process of beating the shit out of him with his armored hands by the time Joff pulled it. Eh, either way, seems like enough Velarions would have witnessed it and called bullshit on the story that Joffrey pulled a knife, unprovoked, on a kingsgaurd, at the royal wedding feast, during dancing, and threatened something so ominous that Cole was left with no choice but to punch his literal head in. I also want to know where the other Kingsgarud were during that beating, like why aren't they pulling him off. I know I'm obsessed with this point, I'm sorry!

What weapon? Same symbol on the knob of the cane of Lyras when he went to the black cells.

Couple of things at play here. At the most basic level: guest rites. When you're invited to a meal at someone's house, you are granted guest rites, which allows for things like beefs to be squashed safely and civilly. It's an extremely serious transgression to violate it as either the host or the guest (Walder Frey is the most egregious example in the show). That's the very, very basic underlying sin. THen you add things like the Kingsgaurd issue: they're supposed to be the best knights in the land and their charge is the highest there can be. Bodily protection of the royals. Beating someone to death at a royal party would have had to come with a serious threat to the royal person, which isn't the case here, and can't plausibly be the case either, no one would believe "The Knight of Kisses" would really have plotted to murder the king. Or the fact that he's supposed to gaurd the king, and instead, punched the future king in the face in a violent outburst. Again he should have been arrested and disposed before he left that room, not been able to be found having a think out in the godswood. I just hate plot armor this obvious.

It's unfathomable, the guy in the KINGSgaurd punched the KING consort in the face! Where is Corlys or Rhaenys saying WTF Viserys, how do we trust this guy? Also how does ALICENT trust him? She didn't exactly sweat him for the details to get a confession out of him, and he forsook his oath. She shouldn't trust him either. Plus, him still walking around a decade later calling her the C word is not a good look.

Several have already noted: THERE IS NO CHANCE COLE SHOULD BE ANYWHERE BUT THE WALL WITHOUT A DICK OR DEAD. Without an explanation of how, he's not only still in the Kingsgaurd, but this volatile and violent thug is the personal bodygaurd to the Queen??? This maniac who beat a member of a royal retinue (he was like the fourth person in line when they intro'd the Velarions in the feast last week) to death...at a royal feast where he'd been granted guestrites...is also somehow involved in any way with the heirs to the throne and training them? This character now sucks. Get over that shit, bro, it was ten years ago. His end cannot be grisly enough for me. Also, what's the point of cutting the tongues out of the catspaws? Maybe he figures they're not lettered, so they can't write anything down?

I would agree if one of thise great houses gad built kings landing or the red keep. Both were built by conquerors, the targaryens.

THanks, now I'm imagining the "MC" for the band they used trying to get these lame-o's up on the dance floor and hype the whole thing. I love thinking about the small folk in the orbit of the nobility and their lives every day!I Just give me a show about them. "Good morrow Danielys! You headed over to the shame walk today? I have been picking up horse apples all day, I'm going to absolutely pelt whatever noble is out there, for real!" "Wait, did you say you have been picking up horse apples all day? What's wrong with you? And yes, I'll be there, duh."

OOoof, what a great point. I would have to check into the book to see what sort of marriages pre-dated Viserys, but I definitely know Aegon I was not married to any Westerosi...so what is the godswood doing behind the castle walls in the first place? Aegon and Maegor built the entirety of the Red Keep, why would they put a heartwood tree in there if neither of them believed in the old gods at all? I know there are Targaryens who were indeed people of faith, but it was always to the Seven, not the old gods. DAMN IT!!! This is worse than the crabfeeder's sons of the harpy anachronistic mask!

Not for nothing but they are using that heartwood tree set so much the face is rolling its eyes. It's such a tiny little yard it's in, and yet when Alicent goes out to it on her own, whoops, surprise, Limpalong Strong is somehow there unnoticed. I guess that tiny spot apparently just off the Red Keep is somehow a public park. Seemed to me they left a comrade out to dry by not stopping him before he committed murder. Bailing him out in my book is stopping him and having the Lord Commander talk to him, get an explanation, then try to sell the king on sending him to the Wall and not to the King's Justice post haste! I'm fascinated by how these little factions function, like what does the City Watch think of the Kingsguard, or how do the Maesters view the Faith...

This is the question I just can't find a way around. WHAT ON EARTH would have allowed him to simply get up and leave? What he did is a very, very serious crime even in Westeros. You can't kill a member of a noble retinue who's been granted guest rights by the crown itself at a royal event, period. Add to that his membership in the Kingsguard, and the brutality with which this beating was administered, and now he is very, very clearly a security problem: you can't be that unstable AND charged with the protection of royal blood. Where were the other members of the guard to intervene, too? What could have possibly been the explanation? THat this nobody from some salt soaked rock somewhere made a veiled threat to the princess? OK, fine, then arrest the guy and throw him in the balck cells, right? Beat him to death before dessert is served is NOT the way. There isn't a sensible explanation that he'd be allowed to go think about it in the godswood. He'd have been detained immediately and very likely beheaded like ten minutes later.

My guess: it has to do with the completely inappropriate and animated lover's spat had out in the open on the boat. Simply no way they weren't noticed, and you know the words of house Smallfolk of King's Landing are "We Flap Our Gums." Where there's smoke and all.

There has never been a queen in the history of Westeros, and there is no precedent for a woman to even lead a great house, it doesn't seem like the people are going to be easily swayed, and while he might be wrong, the chances of a civil war and absolute chaos breaking out in the current circumstance (particularly when a traditionally legitimate male ascendant is sitting in the hole, if Rhaenyra is in the on deck circle), which is good for literally no one. His feelings on the matter of queen / king are immaterial, he knows the realm won't just say "Hey cool!" and start selling a bunch of "I'm With Her" tee shirts.

Fair criticism, but if she's a power hungry climber, they've done even LESS work showing that in my book.

For me, it boils down to first and foremost she wants to protect her children. There's simply no reality in Westeros wherein her children live happily ever after and Rhaenyra is queen. Otto is right in that the realm will go to war over it, which means the most expeditious solution available is simply to murder Alicent and the kids to protect Rhaenyra's claim. The converse also seems true: the only way to truly protect her children will eventually HAVE to be Rhaenyra's death. I'm not sure Alicent is more interested in the idea of having her son sit on the throne than she is just having him alive, but as it turns out, the two are inextricable. She doesn't seem "power hungry" to me, she is too resigned and disinterested looking whenever the king's not around, and she's more of a tool in a scheme than a schemer so far. Honestly I don't even think she has a great idea of what to do with Cristin's situation, how to use it, what to do about it yet. Cersei would have had a plan three quarters done by now.

YES we can talk about it. It was interminable! I felt like it was 40 minutes long. Were people like really entertained by that shit back in the day, or did some lord or lady come up with that stuff and then everyone kinda HAD to pretend to like it, then it sorta took on this life of its own? Where every noble feast they're like "Look, everyone's doing that weird slow dragon dance, I don't PERSONALLY get it, but if we DON'T do it, then we might look like the weird family who doesn't 'get' it, right? I guess we better learn it. So shuffle aimlessly this way...shuffle shuffle shuffle...now mime a high five but don't touch...and shuffle shuffle the other way, yes, crushing it...now hands on your hips, walk away, yes yes...holy shit this is lame. Now, best upgrade to this dance is to sneak glances at your secret lover while you prance, try it!" Edit: Now I'm stuck in a mental scene where one of the courtly ladies is all "Yeah girl, GET IT!" while they do those super chaste dances. Or what moves would qualify as controversial and provocative. I'm sitting there watching it thinking "Now's the time to hit up that feast table again, this is boring as shit, did they open the lemon cake bar yet... "

Have to agree here...she's essentially his boss. Except if he starts pushing back on these demands, he's literally going to get killed in some horrible way. So yeah, I'm sure having sex with Rhaenyra was really pleasant at least, but it's not just somewoman he eventually came around to the idea on. Displease the princess...lose your post and probably more. Do what she wants, great, she's happy, but one loose lipped servant and you're gelded and sent to the wall if you're lucky. PS I hope we get to go to the wall.

Couldn't close the deal with Myseria, the woman he was having sex with in E1, and couldn't get it to work with Rhaenyra, I'm fairly certain the show runners have confirmed he is not one of the...stone men, if you know what I mean.