mamadrama

Not just 2 hours...Back in the fall they devoted an episode to Benita on "The Con". So some of us have now sat through 3 hours...That discussion is on here, too.

I still think A) the baby wasn't early B) the bar scene was filmed outside of the events as presented to us C) something big went down at the Air BnB that either couldn't be used or, after Whitney's previous meltdown, wasn't filmed I have no trouble believing they'd fudge on the date if it was of some benefit. I mean, they pretended for a year that the Baby Mama didn't exist while, publicly, Chase allowed people to think he slept with, loved, and proposed to another woman. The initial news itself, that she was conceived during quarantine, wasn't true... The public DOB being different wouldn't even be that big of a deal. As long as friends, family, and people who actually know them know the truth then assholes like us wouldn't even matter. You could even compartmentalize it as just being part of the show, just as most everything else on this show is.

The consular can re-validate some of the forms, but it still has to be within a 4-month period and it's something that's a case by case basis. They might be more lenient with COVID. And they can only do it if the foreigner hasn't arrived in the US yet. You have 90 days to marry once you reach the US, but you actually have 6 months to travel to the US. That's the part that can be extended. So Amira could've waited 6 months before she traveled.

K-1 visas can't be extended. You have to reapply and start from scratch. Is NonJovi's job location specific? It sounds like he flies to different locations and doesn't work out of New Orleans. If so, he could just as easily live in Budapest.

So I've been giving this WAY too much thought, but my daughter's doing virtual math for school right now and I needed to occupy myself with something... May 21- Whitney posts that Chase is having a baby "in October." Whitney says the baby was conceived during quarantine. (not true because quarantine didn't start until spring) May 26ish- a Redditor locates Chase & Baby Mama's baby registries on several sites. Due date is listed as August 22nd. 4 days later- baby registries' due dates have all changed to Sept 25th. Sept 9- Chase posts that the baby was born and that she "scared him" for "coming so early." Sept 10- Whitney posts first IG shots of her in the Asheville Air BnB pool. So, supposedly, Chase had Aurora around Sept 9th. That's also when Whitney & Co was in Asheville so date-wise that checks out. IMO that was the agreed upon due date for the cast. However... Whitney didn't get the news at the house, she got it at the rooftop bar. That scene literally could've been filmed at any time. The scenes at the Air BnB and the ones at the bar could've been 2 different trips (which might explain why Jess & Isaiah were at the waterfall and house but not at the bar). It could also explain why Todd didn't have any talking heads or lines at the bar-he may have refused to participate in any further debacle. I think Chase had Aurora in August and the bar scene was a reenactment. The original plan may have been to pretend that she had the baby in October but someone, Baby Mama or Chase, refused to wait that long. She may have been like, "Look, I'll give you 2 weeks but then I'm posting my shit. I'm not even a part of this fucking show." Why does this matter? It could be why everyone was so standoffish to Ryan at the house and why Whit kept compartmentalizing Ryan and her "true friends". By that time the baby was already 2-3 weeks old. It may have been what Buddy was starting to say when she ripped her top off. The pandemic had already fucked up filming and now you've got this wildcard of a "love child" and at least 2 main characters (Ryan and Chase) who refuse to play along anymore. The show is sinking and I could see her friend group taking this out on Ryan. I think they rented the house to get everyone together for the announcement of Aurora but something went awry. Whatever it was, it resulted in film that couldn't be used. Maybe after the crew went home for the night a huge blowout went down resulting in laryngitis and Ryan leaving early. Since they didn't get their scene, they brought a few of them back together later and filmed at the rooftop bar. IMO her meltdown, Buddy's glee, Ashley's trepidation, and Ryan's smirk were all real, but for different reasons. As soon as that scene wrapped, Ryan left. He'd fulfilled his contractual obligations. The due date matters because a baby born in late August has a conception date of Nov 22- Dec 7. That's just a few weeks after the Paris trip. It would be so NOT fabulous for Whit to be cheated on right after the proposal. TL/DR: the bar scene and house scenes were 2 different trips because something happened at the house that resulted in unusable film. Thank you for attending my TEDx talk.

I'd love to see what went down after they left the rooftop bar. I think once the crew left Ryan noped out of there, too, and Whitney made up the story about his dog. After all, saying he got mad and left her would be totally not fabulous.

Yeah, Ryan got a negative COVID test and Whitney still wouldn't touch him. Meanwhile, she exposed not only herself to Lennie but also Buddy and all her friends.

Who knows. This is a woman who seemed to think that her best friend should just get over his depression. Reacting rationally to anything doesn't seem to be in her wheelhouse. Real relationship or not, she probably truly believed that as the most important person in the world, and as their employer (since they're on "her" show) everyone really SHOULD run everything by her first. She may feel "stupid" because, unlike the other barnacles, Chase's baby's birth was a clear example of how he doesn't need to have his head stuck up her ass for happiness. She calls zero shots with him.

I was in a relationship for several years and while working in Eastern Europe for 3 months my boyfriend cheated on me, got her pregnant, and proposed. Once I returned home I was having dinner with my BFF and I asked if he'd married the woman. She said, "Yeah. Was I wrong not to tell yoy?" And, honestly, I didn't care. Because I knew approximately when the date of conception was I was also able to figure out the due date. By the time the baby was born I'd moved on. The only thing I can imagine throwing a temper tantrum about is if he'd continued to cheat on me and my friends knew about it.

He didn't say anything. He just retweeted me.

I did on Twitter. He retweeted me.

Two possible reasons: 1. Chase was under contract for X number of appearances 2. His FaceTime appearance was wanted by Whitney so that she could not only continue playing victim for a little while longer but also prove to the audience that this poor, sweet, cheated upon woman is a wonderful human being. She's soooo strong that she was able to tearfully and bravely put her upset aside to inquire about the health of the baby mama AND say nice things about the baby. In essence, her chat with Chase made her look like the bigger person (no, er, puns intended).

She should. Although I think a lot of what we see are production shenanigans, there's still enough that's reality based that makes me concerned for her mental health.

I feel like what we were watching was Whitney suddenly realizing how she probably appears on camera and going into some damage control.

"I'm living in a little box with no room to..."? Nah, that's too easy.

She'll be sending "Uncle Whitney" presents soon. i

When I first had my newborns I know that my husband and I parked our asses on Instagram 24/7 to see if any of our exes acknowledged us.

ha ha ha! I went back and re-reread your post. My head's clearly been somewhere else lately. I can't wait to return to deafening, sweaty rock shows. Just one more thing I'm looking forward to once this pandemic's a memory.

She's obsessing over whether or not Chase, or anyone else, has acknowledged her "likes" or comments. Just when I think she can't get any more full of herself...

I don't think that part's contrived. Whitney's a bitch. I think she honestly did feel that entitlement.

Whitney, quit blubbering and bellowing in the rain. You are not Rachel McAdams and this is not THE NOTEBOOK.

"The baby came early." *snort* I knew they'd play that card.

Buddy has to stick his head a little further up Whitney's ass than normal. After all, he came dangerously close to being fired for being truthful the day before...

Chase posted his baby news on his IG and Whitney is STILL mad that "nobody told her"? Was she expecting to be the first one called? Ryan wasn't "keeping it from her." It was literally on social media.

Geeze, you'd think Chase's girlfriend would have the compassion to cross her legs and wait until Whitney was ready before she gave birth...