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I`d be very happy if they skip a conversation about it. Not looking forward to Dean groveling in apology for the mean things he said as a demon whereas Sam can say mean things even without being a demon and have it not be adressed at all. And I`m so sensitive to Sam-pimping now, that when it comes from Dean - normally while Dean is putting himself down - that I seriously don`t want a version of "oh, your gracious and wonderful self saved me when I was so horrible to you back when you were a demon blood junkie/soulless/whatever." Urgh. And if the acting choices in this episode are any indication - looking smug is not what I would have gone for with the "welcome back, Dean" - I don`t want to see the faux-humble reaction to such a confession. It`s bad enough that they once more trampled a Dean storyline into the ground, MUST there be insult to injury? .

That was so painfully anticlimatic, if that was supposed to be Sam`s "big save" after years to come, it`s ludicrous. I`ve seen more impressive things in filler hunts. When Sam was to be resouled, Dean killed himself to speak with Death, became Death for a day and everything. Here, we had nothing else but Dean getting some vitamine Blood shots and a hug from Cas and all better. They might as well have cured him from the flu.

Meh, this was about right for an episode from the nepotism duo, namely shit. Demon!Dean gets completely cured after three measly episodes. Not surpressed or anything but gone-gone. I don`t recall Sam`s multiple supernatural storylines being gone after three eps. No matter how much I wished it sometimes. But god forbid Dean gets an actual story that goes on a bit longer. What is up for him now? Back to guilty cheerleader duties? And I`m not looking forward to Sam secretely gloating. I can`t even believe when the guy spouts stuff like "I`m the least of you". Now, he will have gotten a massive ego-surge and quite frankly, I doubt that can be kept out of his performance. The stupid blood cure? For real? Like I didn`t hate anything to do with the trials enough in the first place. I get they would try it but this piece of crap should not have worked. Also, I wanted Demon!Dean to deliver a couple of home truths a la "seriously, you hated ME for doing that family above al else shit, why do it yourself now". In short, the fucking Purge speech really adressed. Aftr all, why even try to bring back a guy who was apparently nothing but a cowardly loser all his life. From what Sam said Dean was and forever has been, Demon!Dean was still a better person so trying to bring human!Dean back made no sense. I expect them to do absolutely nothing with the MOC till maybe the mid-Season or Season Finale. It`s not a Sam storyline after all. If it was, we would get it in every filler from here on and in every mytharc episode.

You mean in the recent episode? He was just snarking. Bonnie asked him what would be the first thing he told Elena and he joked it would be how he was sorry for killing Bonnie. It was just more in their set of bickering, he basically implied he could kill her because she annoyed him. But I`m thinking if Kai had threatened her, Damon would have been just as quick to defend Bonnie. To me, it`s the same mindset that had them holding hands in the Season 5 Finale in the first place. Back then they figured they were dying along with the Other Side and neither wanted to do so alone. Now they are semi-not-dead? Still neither wants to be alone. It`s more than that, though, as I doubt very much Bonnie would have taken, say, Silas along for the ride. Damon counts as a "friendly face". He is a member of their little gang and so is Bonnie, that`s why they can`t quit each other in this past world. He drives her away (and most likely regrets it every single time) and she runs off and comes back every single time. Meaning they draw more comfort than misery from each other`s company. Noone wants to be alone and it would be indeed a hellish nightmare to be so - hey, Grams, wasn`t this about giving Bonnie peace? she wouldn`t have known Damon would come along for companionship - but if the benefits didn`t far outweigh the grief, they`d never stay together.

The closest the show might ever come to this was a little throwaway scene in the episode with the Golem where that Aaron guy is sitting in the car while they warm their hands over the cozy fire of a burning body.

Man, Lester should not go into Hell nor Heaven. Would any side seriously want someone so dumb? I can buy someone being convinced that demon deals are an actual thing. But why in all the world would you waste it on someone like a simple hitman job? There are easy human means to attain that. The only deal I remember like that was Bela and she was a child so that`s a wildly different scenario. But, seriously, wish for talent, the reversal of death, fame. Stuff you can`t get from the next street corner. Something that should be worth it for the loss of a soul. Lester is probably the guy who would waste two of the three genie wishes on a cup of coffee and a donut to go with it.

If Sam did broker a deal, it would make the "a Winchester, one of us" reference from the Premiere episode make more sense. At first, I thought it was just a clumsy phrasing because they wanted their "gotcha" moment where you thought the demon was talking to Dean but then the camera pans to Sam. If she is a Crossroads Demon (and we`re back to picking pretty girls in cocktail dresses, oh nostalgia), what Sam just did was akin to her work. As for the blood curing, I hope it doesn`t work. Granted, any other actual cure could be even lamer and more offensive to me but I hate every single implication about this stupid blood curing. For one, it reminds me of the trials, otherwise-known as half a Season-long redo of the atrocity known as Suck Song. For another, Sam the Saint saving Dean the Sinner is so simplistically douchey, it would fit right in with the current crop of writers. My dream scenario would still be having Dean be heavily involved in coming back from it himself. I know, pigs would fly before that. I had envisioned Sam would try to make impassioned speeches to Dean about how he, human Dean is/was worthy - and maybe referencing that Purge shit as an outright lie - but instead he just spouts Dean`s usual stuff on family values. An attitude Sam has majorly resented in the past. Heck, that he held even in contempt occassionally. Demon!Dean didn`t get a lobotomy, he remembers that. I`m not a fan of when Dean made those speeches but for good or ill (and lots of ill), he lived and breathed that crap. Sam has pretty much always espoused the opposite viewpoint. It`d be like Bill Gates trying to sell you Apple products.

Since I see it coming a mile away again, I`m really bitter than in brother arguments, Dean`s deck always gets stacked with the easy-to-shoot-down strawman arguments so his position looks weak and he can easily be made to crawl back in apology later. Instead of just once being allowed to air legitimate grievances where Sam doesn`t look like a wounded victim. In reverse I`m bitter that Sam can`t be made to phrase his "I accept responsibility" speeches in such a way that I actually hear "I accept responsibility". It`s always a tongue-twister that actually deflects blame. And I`m so incredibly bitter that we didn`t get to see Demon!Dean have some cool powers. Years back, I would have been horrified had Dean been turned into a demon but Season after Season of rimming mytharc!Sam and the horror of butler!Dean of 8.2 made me grateful for the current storyline. But godamnit, if I accepted an "evol" storyline, I wanted at least the works in trade. I had to suffer through the hand of Ipecac and all the other supernatural permutations with powers how many years? And yet not one measly episode of superpowers for Dean? I know, it`s just number 115 or so on the list of "why the writers suck" but bitterness aplenty for me..

I wonder if Damon and Bonnie still consider themselves dead? Like, that they are in some magical air pocket of the Other Side? In which case, I can see ho-hum attitude. I realize coming back to life is a joke on this show but this anchor-gateway-Traveller-spell-thingie should be out so it`d be more like bringing Bonnie back in the first place and that took quite a lot. And I just remembered that the original physical bodies of all these people have rotted/are rotting somewhere. Yikes. Now I do enjoy the Bamon 90s adventure however long it lasts. The characters have a really fun chemistry that probably hasn`t been explored since that dance they shared back when Klaus first came to Mystic Falls.

Yeah, that is another thing that is iffy to me. Tripp grew up in Mystic Falls but presumably has been gone for a while. He does know the Founding Family Secret, though. Seriously, I was half expecting him to give Stefan a secret handshake or something because once Stefan mentioned his name was Salvatore, Tripp obviously felt he was, thus, a fellow vampire hunter. But what I`m getting at is, other than in Season 1, neither the Salvatore brothers nor anyone of the Fellowship really have tried much diplomacy when it comes to hiding their existance as vampires. They are pretty blatant about it. Evilaric once ratted everyone out to the council. Granted, that got blown up but did noone talk before that? Or make records of it? A scrapbook, titled "the famous vamps of Mystic Falls - a look at our most prominent citizens"? And did Tripp not do ANY research whatsoever in what kind of supernatural shit happened while he was gone? Are you seriously gonna tell me that all their "covers" are still intact? Oh man, if Damon wasn`t dead, he`d probably be on this new anti-vampire brigade, too. Just for shits and giggles. Connor may have been a murderous dick but vervain gloves? Yup, might try to really invest in a secret handshake there, Tripp. And Stefan, you are banking on this guy killing Enzo before the latter can tell him about you and all your vampire friends? Impeccable strategic thinking there, dude..

In trying to make sense of what Elena in her new zombie state (thank you, Caroline) believes happened, did she mention she and Stefan broke up two years ago? Okay, Season 1 and 2 cover one year, Season 3 and 4 another year, Season 5 probably one year on its own and now four months have passed. That means what, Elena thinks she broke up with Stefan during or after the Ripper summer? Or after turning into a vampire? It`s ridiculous because so much of what she thinks, believes has happened should be altered, has to be altered for this to work.Caroline lecturing Enzo on what he could and could not say, well, pish posh. Any of them at any given time could make a reference to an event that they know to be true but would HAVE to be different in Elena`s mind. How would they even know? Or is Elena running around with memories of things that quite frankly, out of context, would make no freaking sense whatsoever? For example, if she remembered the sire bond and the explanation given for how a sire bond with vampires comes to be in the first place, it would be a giant case of WTF for her. I realize that she might have other things on her mind right now but would you not notice if your memories for the last three years just suddenly appear to be a jumbled mess of nonsense?

Eh, I don`t really see a "new" Elena. I remember thinking she was more or less like this in the Season 5 Opener and it got on my nerves back then, too. So vapid and hyper and urgh. Never-ending "my grief"-Elena angst-puppet and especially the total coward who had her feelings/memories erased because unlike everyone else, she.just.can`t.deal annoyed me as well but this version is by no means an improvement in my eyes. Since Ivy was such a blank slate of a non-character and Stefan looked to be sleepwalking in the episodes with her whereas I find Enzo pretty amusing, I couldn`t really root for him to put Enzo down. Despite Stefan having reason to. Involving Tripp, though? Yeah that will come back to massively bite him in the ass. After not liking Caroline for about two Seasons, I`m back in her corner now. At least she seemed as creeped out by Pod!Elena as I felt. And Stefan is kinda an ass to her. Damon and Bonnie continues to be the only interesting storyline really. I`m happy Bonnie got her magic back and happy Bamon acknowledged that they have moved beyond "haaaaate". I don`t see them as a romantic couple in that I don`t think the show will go there - personally, I could easily see them together - but they`ve long since moved into at least frenemy territory. Tyler and Liv? Is okay.

But Dean doesn`t also have the "right kind of soul" at the moment due to its demonization. Why shouldn`t that yield similar results to a soul being missing wholesale? I agree that the show has (tentatively) gone with the notion of a human soul presenting goodness (notable exceptions on the show have been numerous) but if you look at the soul like a functioning engine to a car, then it doesn`t matter if the car has no engine or it`s completely broken down - the car won`t drive in either case. Just the way of fixing the problem is different. I fully believe Dean`s soul has inherent goodness in it. But I also believe his soul is now the usual demonic black smoke. More or less at least. That`s why the beetle black eyes and that`s why the behaviour. Actually, that Demon!Dean is as "decent" as he is for a demon shows the opposite of a born-evil-thing to me. His true soul must have a fuckton of goodness that even little bits shine through while being a demon. Cain needed a couple thousand years to get it together again. Dean is doing pretty great, compared.

I think the show has shown humans crazy and evil enough to make you question the inherent purity of the soul. However, in terms of Demon!Dean, I don`t think it is so different from Soulless!Sam on the matter you`re talking about. Having no soul and therefore no filter/conscience and having a twisted soul and therefore also no filter/conscience seems a lot alike. Not alike in how the characters act because Dean and Sam are different people with different Ids and tastes they might want to feed at any given time. But in that both versions aren`t working at full emotional and moral capacity. So, I see it a bit like breaking your leg vs. having a bad case of the flu. Those two are not really alike but both WILL keep you from successfully running a marathon. In that, they are completely alike.

I think they are fucking up the timeline again because the date given by Cole was 2003. Which would mean pre-first Season. Yet, didn`t it have Dean sporting Ruby`s knife? Which, at least Carver should remember, entered the scene in Season 3. He was a writer during that Season and even if he wasn`t, some research wouldn`t hurt. Going around stabbity-stab demonic vessels wasn`t even a thing pre-Season 3 and more 4ish and onward. Back then they only had their exorcisms. Which shouldn`t have left the guy gutted like there was no tomorrow. .

I don`t think it says deep down Dean is and always has been irredeemably evil (though with these writers, I wouldn`t even be surprised if they thought that or tried to retcon that) and that his fondest desire was raping women or something. What I think the demonization does is remove the voice that would usually say "nope". Normal!Dean would enjoy a stripper and as a red-blooded male would probably enjoy touching, too, but if he wanted that, he would simply try to pick her up. And if she turned him down, he would accept it good-naturedly. As a demon, he still has the fondness for beautiful women but his mindset is more like "want, take, have" now. So now he is a person who still has a soul but the soul doesn`t do what it should do in a normal human. And most importantly doesn`t do what it would do in Dean. Basically, it`s not functioning properly. That said, I did find Demon!Dean hot like burning overall in the episode. Him schooling Cole, snarking at everybody. And while yes, he killed a human, for some reason he chose to forego the kill of the wife and offed the husband who had ordered the hit. In the end, he even did the guy a favour, presuming he will now not go to hell for sure and be tortured for hundreds of years. I wonder what was up with Cole`s dad back in the day. The simplest explanation would be "monster" but unless Cole is adopted, wouldn`t he be monster then, too? And not know? And the age thing is just ridiculous. He doesn`t look 24, sorry but nope. If they want to retcon that Dean simply killed that guy for shits and giggles, they can enjoy my middle finger. I was annoyed that Sam managed to sneak up on Dean and simply slap the cuffs on all easy-peasy. And it was so bloody obvious it only happened this way because the episode only had so many minutes left and they needed to get there, stat.

His great lady-love was a POC and I definitely think he would have snapped the neck of Stefan`s current partner, no matter who it was. If Stefan had aquired a pet hamster, Enzo would have killed it. Wiping the pain away is IMO Elena`s go-to-response. She had the same done to Jeremy after he fell apart following Vicky`s death so I`m not surprised she chose it for herself. Also, there is no current supernatural crisis and Stefan isn`t available either. Seriously, when we met Elena, she was deeply grieving her parents and while all her remaining friends and family had good intentions, they didn`t make her feel better. Stefan showed up and voila, she perked up, they fell in love super-quickly, the end. Then when she became a vampire, she fell apart again. Everyone tried but noone made her feel better except Damon, So she was drawn to him. I know, I know, sire bond and all but Elena`s previous behaviour would have explained it already. Now she is alone. No Salvatore in sight to cling to and no coping mechanism for her grief. But still, that mind wipe must have been the most cowardly thing I ever saw a main character on this show do. And I thought, it would be about easing Damon completely. As if he had never existed, this "pick and choose, I hate him now" is SUPER-contrived. But actually, it was the fucking same instinct Stefan had had when Rebekah offered him to erase his love for Elena/Elena wholesale from his mind. He went for it. And I remember thinking "seriously? that would be so pathetic". Elena called him out on how pathetic it would be. But apparently only on the grounds of how she would still be around and would lose him as a follower afterwards. That she did it herself now tells me they of all people shouldn`t date. Each needs a partner who would never do shit like that, like Caroline for Stefan maybe.

While I would have liked a more variety of scenes, especially more fight/stunt scenes with demons and some freaking powers, in general I agree with that. On the TV show Haven the lead character is currently having an "evil incarnation" storyline and while it`s not quite the same context as Demon!Dean, it`s played so over-the-top arch villain, two episodes in, I was completely bored and annoyed with it. And that is with a clear-cut evil agenda and all that. It just doesn`t make it entertaining to watch.

For the life of me I can`t understand how this compulsion thing worked in this episode. Sure, they pin-pointed the moment she said she loved him first (in whatever capacity) and Alaric took out a few other moments but Damon and Elena had plenty interaction, including positive one before and after By the time the Season 3 Premiere rolled around, she had apparently long since forgiven him for snapping Jeremy`s neck. She was very kind to him in the Season 2 Finale already when he was "dying". Heck, they had friendly interaction as far back as the last half of Season 1. So how come erasing that one freaking memory from 3.01 spirals back and forth in her head and rearranges her entire feelings and memories? And what in the everloving fuck does Elena now believe happened at various times? Why does she think she broke up with Stefan for example? Alaric even compelled one of the memories away with "it was the sire bond" so does she still remember the sire bond happened? If so why? You could drive battlecruisers through the holes in that entire spiel. I`ve always rolled with compulsion but this was ludicrous. I also found it annoying because for better or worse the writers seem committed to Delena as a love story and you just know this will just be used as a obstacle in the lurve story. If it was a "real life"-based show, it would be an accident, hitting of the head and amnesia, preferably back to a time where character A "hated" character B. Here, we have this. Urgh. And of course Alaric will for some reason not be there to uncompel her or have lost his original vamp powers. You just know it. Hey, I know, let Elena date some poor human schmuck, have Damon return and be totally miserable, her be totally cold to him, then he goes off the deep end and bam, miracle memory recovery, dumping poor human schmuck, Elena chases after him but something happens. Dun dun dun. That`d be like, so new and romantic. Eyeroll. I did enjoy the Enzo/Caroline/Stefan shenanigans. And while I felt bad for the girlfriend, she was a blank canvas as a character and mostly could do nothing but stand around be confused about what went on. That was not going to work anyway. Stefan simply moving on, I read was Paul Wesley`s choice over Plec`s idea of "of course, Stefan will search the Earth and back". So, I`m not sure if Enzo and Caroline calling him out was payback? But that would be weird because she is showrunner. Just because an actor has an idea or preference for their character doesn`t mean she had to do it. She agreed so what gives? Admittedly, I did like that they are not telling me how it`s the most wonderful and mature thing to do ever - I`m looking at you, SPN. And at least Stefan did earnestly look, he just gave up pretty soon. Just like Elena gave up after four months. It`s not that much time. And I find Elena`s decision here far more cowardly than Stefan imploding beceause he couldn`t handle it. Caroline had a right to call him on his treatment of her, though. He can`t expect sympathy and coddles from people he himself offered none to in their own grief. Damon and Bonnie in 1994 is the only really interesting plotline and mystery right now, though. Anything in the "real world" is just bla bla bla-ing.

I think he actually does what to be free. Which is hard to portray as a goal because it can look inactive or shallow. But I don`t think there really is much in the way of a clear-cut goal you could show with Demon!Dean believably. He does not want to run hell same way as he does not want to run anything. It is responsibility and work and he doesn`t crave the power, he wants to be left alone. He does not want to hunt because that, too, is inextricably linked for Dean with feelings of responsibility and "doing the right thing" as well as compassion and nobility. Demon!Dean would scoff at those. Obviously, he does not want to pal around with Sam, He does not want a "normal life". He does not want to torture for torture`s sake. What he wnats to do is what we saw him dojng. And realistically, he supressed a lot of what he wanted for years on end. There were 40 years in hell he couldn`t do what he wanted - the ten years still very much count as that for me. Now it`s apparently only been 6 weeks of hedonism. I know real life people who actually went on a narcasisstic binge after being release from a longterm crushing responsibility situation. They didn`t even get started at 6 weeks. One got it together again after three years.

While this wasn`t the best Season Premiere - it wouldn`t touch Lazarus Rising and In my time of Dying in a million years - I will still give it epic points for not being "something wrong with Sam" and "Sam becomes a supernatural other" and "Dean is all about Sam". Hallelujah. And death to all those. I liked Demon!Dean. He wasn`t particularly evil, that`s true but that makes sense IMO. He would not be interested in any kind of work or responsibility. Which rules out any and all evol plans of world domination. It also makes sense that Demon!Dean wouldn`t spent him time torturing in their home for fun a la Lilith. Again, what pleasure instinct in him would that sate? Regular!Dean has never shown an inclination for that or been "yay, children screaming in pain, my life is complete now". Instead Demon!Dean goes for probably the one thing Dean longed for the most: freedom. Complete and utter freedom from responsibility. Now don`t get me wrong, I don`t think Dean ever wanted his life to be just hedonism but the demonic self takes everything over the top. And even then random impulses like wanting to help Ann Marie come through. He beat up the guy because the fun of it took over but he initially only noticed the guy and singled him out for a beating because of her. Sating the MOC is interesting, too. I just wish we could have seen more and longer fight scenes. And displays of supernatural power. Who does one have to kill here to get DEAN to have some supernatural powers for a few episodes? What I loved best was Crowley truth-dialing Sam. "Hey, we were worried you hit another dog". HA!. And "you are more jealous over the loss of your toy" because frankly, I think there is a lot of truth to that. Cole, I`m not sure about yet. It was hilarious how deflated he was when Demon!Dean`s nonchalance blew a big fat hole in his plan. "But...but..my leverage..." You could almost see it in a bubble over his head. And he is not even aware of the irony that whatever happened to jumpstart his vengeance quest was at best maybe just him misjudging the situation and at worst a mistake on a hunt, done with no ill will whereas Dean now would actually snap him like a twig. Cas` parts were sadly the weakest. Hannah - the angelic equivalent to a sedative and once more "random angel shenanigans on Earth". Why in all the heavens can his storyline not be integrated with the brothers? He was introduced as a character who played a big role on Dean`s mytharc (well, when it looked like he had one back then). He became popular and was a great asset then. Now it`s Supernatural with a dash of "meanwhile, on Cas..."

While, if we were talking about regular Dean, I would agree - he pretty much DID want to die rather than be changed into anything in the Season 9 Finale - but I believe it`s more complicated than that. At this point, I think ALL of his soul has been twisted. That`s what the black eyes symbolize, it`s not a regular human soul inside him anymore. And that informs his actions now. But parts of the old Dean still shine through here and there, Even though they, too, are twisted. So, there is no autonomous voice (no matter how small) inside him capable of going "I`d rather be dead than a demon", but there are still echoes of the Dean of yesteryore. Like, seeing Ann Marie in trouble, it distracted him enough to go outside and check. And while his need for violence took over once he started beating on the guy, Dean`s impulse for seeking him out was because Ann Marie`s predicament bothered him. Otherwise, he would have played foosball and not have known the guy from Adam. I`m glad that it looks like Dean`s more questionable behaviour as a demon comes because the MOC`s influence grows bigger. Turning him into a demon didn`t make him pawing at strippers, apparently, it needs the added fuel of the Mark for a few months. And he`ll still keep himself enough in check from killing that bouncer. Now for a regular human, that would be low standards to keep but for not only a demon but a demon carrying the Mark of Cain which made Cain - who looked to be not weak-willed in the least - torture and slaughter humans for several thousand years and create a special order of Hell doing so, it actually shows exceptional restraint. To me, it shows that deep down Dean is a good person that you actually need to put some serious supernatural effort into twisting so much.

Well, I found him to be just as nonsensical as always. But at least he is honest in admitting that they have no plot and no ideas for the Season, just soap opera naval gazing. Dean had that for years as a "storyline". It`s just that now everyone seems to join him. I`d rather they had it switched but if the others are at least in the dirt of unimportance with him, it`s better than nothing. As for Crowley`s personal journey, I too, don`t give a crap. Mark Sheppard does a great job and Crowley can bring a snarky sense of humour but he is no better than Azazel , Alistair, Lilith etc. They all bought it, he deserves no less. Castiel having a side story that has once again do nothing with the Winchesters? Yup, that worked really well in the past. I love the angels upon introduction and held on to that love longer than I think a lot of viewers have but even I have reached the stage of supreme boredom with them now. I`m not quite sure what the plan is here. Dean already sincerely believed that he was 90 % crap pre-demonization. It`s not like an epiphany a la "yeah, I`m really that terrible a person" would be all that novel. Well, he could consider himself lower than dirt, like Sam told him he was in the Purge. I don`t think he was quite there yet. As for Sam, the writers obviously don`t see the character having much in the way of flaws. I think they view him more like a small child which kinda can do no wrong - even if it does, it`s usually the fault of the parent or someone in charge - and where you don`t speak ill of them because it would make you an ass. Little Sammy. Therefore, I doubt they would ever adress what I see as the biggest and most off-putting character flow and let him grow from there. What Demon!Dean calls him on will IMO be nothing else than the "monster" line (and he will wibble about it in innocent torment whereas Dean will later apologize because seriously, you are not mean to a toddler, yo). What Demon!Dean should be calling him on was "I thought you hated my approach to brotherhood so much, how come you are doing the same thing now? This concludes the "looking down on me" portion of our life btw. For infinity". whereas what Demon

From about 4 years old, Dean has been given responsibilities (then far beyond his age) and basically neither others nor himself have let that go. So IMO Demon!Dean now is the person who is just free of those responsibilities. That doesn`t mean he is ultimately selfish as a human person, it means his Id and JUST his Id drives the car now. Good riddance ego and super-ego. I can`t see a single reason why that would suit Dean because again, it would be responsibilities. Which is the one thing that smothered the human Dean down so much, Demon!Dean has to run screaming from it. Demon!Dean is the healthiest approach human!Dean never tried. Too far, I`ll grant you but in the right direction. If he tried to grab power, it would be right back to insanity. I don`t think Carver means "villains" in the sense of how Azazel or Lilith, Abaddon, Eve, Lucifer or Dick Roman etc were villiains. Quite the opposite. Carver more or less admits they have no villain and no overarching plot. They seem to currently search for something to make up to that purpose but all they have is soap opera "personal stories" about "personal demons". That`d be like Star Wars, if you take out the Empire, Vader, the Death Star and the Storm Troopers and just made a movie about Luke Skywalker dealing with his personal demons on a backwater sandplanet. And claim that kinda makes Luke Skywalker the villain of the movie. Yeah, no shit, like who else would it be? Sand-flees? Carver might just be the first showrunner who doesn`t even pretend he has a fucking story before the Season even starts.

He is hot like burning. I highly doubt he`d have to go without even if he blew it with Ann Marie. In the end, I simply don`t think they will cross the line too much with Demon!Dean. They never took even BeigeSam anywhere and that was with oodles of whitewash afterwards. For Dean, they never gave any supernatural whitewash and already were more willing to dirty up the character more. Which I think only works because it is a stronger character (narratively speaking) in the end. But as they plan to bring him back and apparently not spend a lot of time on a redemption arc - Dean is said to be lighter afterwards which seems like the antithesis of Dean who feels guilty for everything, unless this time he finally burned out and ironically got better - they can`t take him too deep and too far. The show doesn`t appear interested in doing anything with the arc so they can`t also use the measly two episodes to bash the character into oblivion and then simply move on. So I assume he is gonna be more or less PG. Which, I can believe Dean would not be all about world domination or opening the gates of hell or something. Why would he? He has never been power hungry like that. He doesn`t wanna sit on a throne and I think the last thing he wants is more responsibility in running things. Even hell. He wants freedom. This show simply isn`t like Vampire Diaries where the correct response to "one of us really wants something" is "genocide ahoy, to make that happen". On a show like this Demon!Dean could literally kill, maim and rape his way through the first ten episodes and beyond a slight slap on the wrist, noone would think much of it afterwards.