whydoievencare

Exactly!! Which is exactly what they did when Erica told them to tone it down at her house to be respectful of Tom - the eighty year old. I guess when it has to do with other people's sensibilities, that's when Erica just doesn't give a fuck. Just don't make her look bad. And oooooh, wasn't Rinna so angry tonight (said in a creepy whispery voice) because she thinks Denise made HER look bad - except Rinna does that all by herself!

Erika and Rinna are especially vile tonight - I wish they'd boot them both from RHOBH. The show has merely been a long job interview for Erika Jayne to move to bigger and better things - there's really nothing about her personal life is there? And isn't it supposed to be all about their personal lives, right? According to Kyle? And Rinna - the worm turned pretty early on and it's just an attention seeking, self serving piece of shit.

It's really ugly how delighted Lisa Rinna is to reveal that there was a Cease and Desist. She's not a friend to anyone. I can't believe Denise thinks there is anything there to redeem with Lisa. Lisa is the most vile of the Housewives on any of the franchises - she really will do anything for a buck.

Rinna used the "I WAS MANIPULATED" storyline when she and Eileen were first on the show. She finally decided that LVP had manipulated her into discussing the possibility that Yolanda had Munschausen disease and not Lyme - like it was a fucking revelation that she was so weak mentally that LVP just thought circles around her. Rinna came to this exact revelation regarding Denise. For someone who is always telling everyone to "own it", it seems that she never does herself. She's unbearable. And apparently also stupid if she's so easily manipulated.

Yes, I'm sure they don't want Denise to go - after all, who will be their punching bag when that happens? And this is just like last year with Vanderpump - Denise says that what she's being accused of didn't happen (the Brandi shit and that she was mom-shaming them) and they are saying.....that it did? Until Denise capitulates, they will continue to harass her (just like they did with Vanderpump). It seems that the accused will never be able be able to prove their innocence.

What do you think is harder? The pile of tears, or the single tear that rolled down her cheek when Kim returned the baby gift at the reunion?

I think you mean, "but it's there and she should OWN IT!"

Rinna clearly doesn't know the meaning of love if she's telling Denise that she invited her to Rome because she loves her. That's not how anyone behaves with a loved one. She's a nasty woman who doesn't own any of her shit. She clearly has an axe to grind with her long time "friend". I'm sure all the Rinna tears are a way to deflect Denise being upset with her - she'll be back to her original agenda in about two minutes. What a phoney.

To summarize how these bitches are going after Denise at the dinner - it's akin to the question "When did you stop beating your wife?" There will never be an answer that suits them that doesn't mean Denise is at fault (though I'm unsure what the actual transgression is). Kyle, Rinna and Teddi are clearly in the camp that is choosing to back Brandi's stories. And they are (Rinna especially) using the excuse that she isn't being honest and open and owning it. All the things Rinna is accusing Denise of, Rinna is the master of herself. She's such a cunt.

I think Denise's reply at Bravo Con was just generic - doesn't really mean anything. With this group - they behave as if an accusation is the absolute same thing as being proven guilty. Could Teddi have cross-examined Denise any longer than she did? Clearly with the premise that she believed Denise HAD said that stuff. Just like with Vanderpump last season. I'm so sick of these bitches. Also.,WTF was Teddi wearing - she has the worst taste.

Plus, rumour has it he has a big dick! 😉

I'm thinking that when the Hive talks about "communicating", what they actually mean is that Denise is supposed to sit there and take her lumps until they've decided that there has been enough "communication". I think Denise summed it up pretty well with the ever bitchy Erica - that she's an open person but she does have boundaries regarding her children. I'm sure that won't be enough for these bitches. Certainly it didn't impress Erica.

Do you Jextella? I think she pushes others to "own it" - and I see it as her way to promote drama. I don't think she "owns it" when it comes to herself - the example I would use was when she was telling someone that Kim Richards was at "death's door" and that Kyle enabled her and then claimed not to remember saying it.

Just by virtue of the fact that he is directly disagreeing with them - just the one man. Then together, all these tough outspoken woman lose their shit and clutch their pearls. I actually find the group piling on Denise again and again and again to be much more threatening. It's such a convenient way to get Denise on her own - pretend that Aaron is so very scary that they feel threatened - actually, it's such Karen behaviour.

I couldn't agree more strongly with all this!! We all do this to some extent - does it make us all hypocrites? Or are we just being appropriate to the social situation? I cannot, for the life of me, understand what these bitches keep harping on about. What exactly is the end game here for them?

That quick shot of next week's scenes - Kim looks like an old shrivelled tiny woman. I was shocked actually.

The four - five? women going after Aaron - good for him for standing up for himself all while being cool about it. Erika says in her TH - "what - are you trying to intimidate me?" - when in fact that's usually her schtick. "Are you going to hit me?" - that wasn't at all the situation - so why would Erika say that - Karening the situation much? I can't stand that the hive mind won't leave Denise (and Aaron) alone about what happened several weeks ago - they won't let things go - I guess at least until Denise agrees with them about their point of view. These women are vile.

Oh Dorinda! Admonishing Ramona to be kind when she's given the chance to be, but Dorinda tries to annihilate Tinsley whenever they are together! Does Dorinda not get how horrible she's being? She's certainly not being kind!

I was in a restaurant in Canada that serves all day breakfast every day and they didn't know what over easy was! Couldn't believe it. OTOH - with Kiko - I'm wondering if the term is more North American and not a world wide term?

Lara is acting like she's the chief stew and she's telling Hannah to shape up. I would have trouble restraining myself from decking her. Hannah actually isn't the problem here.

Personally I can't stand Lara. She's kind of acting like the deck guy- Jack? - from last year who I also couldn't stand. Lara is being deliberately obstinate - I can't imagine her as a chief stew, or actually in any stew position. She doesn't seem to want to do anything for anyone - even I know you don't walk away from prepared eggs - you serve them immediately! This is a service industry and Lara doesn't seem suited to it. Her only goal seems to be to piss off everyone and I'm not enjoying it.

To me, Leah is an example of someone who has had lots of therapy and intervention and her takeaway is a vocabulary that is used to excuse her behaviour and choices rather than enabling her to make positive change. I don't blame her mother for cutting off contact at times - she must really need that break.

I rewatched it too. Nope to you. She spoke quietly to the person sitting right next to her - she didn't address the whole table.

Exactly! They are going after Denise for everything! Denise leaving the award event "early" - "well, don't we all have things to do?". Denise doesn't bring her kids to Kyle's BBQ - "you're implying that we're all bad moms!". Kyle especially makes it all about herself in any given situation. And let's face it - Erika wouldn't have liked the sex talk that happened at Denise's dinner if it had taken place in front of her 80 year old husband - but it's okay in front of teenage girls. Erika couldn't be more of a hypocrite if she tried.

Actually, she did lean in and she spoke very quietly.