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I'm going to ignore the peeing conversation, because I just can't, and instead say that I actually think that the pictures of Kim at the Academy Mansion are actually pretty good. I like her shorter hair, and while I wouldn't have chosen a shoe with an ankle strap, at least she's not wearing those god awful clunky heeled shoes. Her outfit is very "Upper East Side" and while I'm not sure what's going on with the necklace she's wearing (at first I thought her hair got caught across her neck)...At least I'm not seeing her tits and ass. So...I'll take it. She looked better than Khloe, in my opinion, who had some serious butter face going on and was popping out of her skirt. And speaking of her face, whoever did her lip injections failed to inflate one side of her mouth. http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/x_EVEbGrR1G/Kim+Kardashian+West+Khloe+Kardashian+Farouk/a7aWmldw8UG

I don't doubt that he's having sex with her. What disgusts me is that this man thought for one moment that it was appropriate to put that on his underage girlfriends twitter account. It speaks to his character, it speaks to his respect of his girlfriend and his respect of women in general. And it speaks to Kylie's expectations/esteem when it comes to men. I find it incredibly bothersome not only that she's allowed to date this "kid" from the neighborhood, but also that she would date a man who would publicly make derogatory statements about having sex with her every day. Even if it was deleted. Kim and Kanye - yes, gross. But Kim is an adult. Kylie is 17 years old. She is still, from a psychology standpoint, very much an adolescent. Her brain hasn't even fully finished developing yet. If this is 17, I shudder to think who she will be at 25/30/40. And everybody thinks it's okay. Revolutionary, even. She's the stylemaker. She's the it-girl Kardashian sister. That's what disgusts me.

So apparently Kylie tweeted a picture and Tyga commented "I hit that every day" or some such thing. The tweet got deleted but it got screen captured and the press picked it up. I'm kind of disgusted.

Ew. Ew ew ew ew ew. Did you have to go there? Excuse me while I go bleach my brain.

You know that old picture of the farmer and his wife, and they are just staring out from the painting? Hand Kanye and pitchfork and there you go. P.S. Kanye looks like Mr. Potatohead.

That group shot. Yikes. Is that supposed to be front row at a fashion show? I don't get it. I thought I was supposed to see people sitting front row at a fashion show and they were supposed to be all flawless, sleek and shiny and I was supposed wish my curly hair would straighten and that I could afford gucci over gap. THIS is now considered the A list crowd for fashion? Oh dear.

I think this show was doing more to set up the future of PLL than anything else. There are some theories and speculation out there that the show is going to do a time jump ahead. In this episode you introduced 2 potentially new characters that I doubt were just blips on the one time PLL radar. Since they've killed off Mona, shipped off Paige, gotten rid of Melissa, and we know that Lucas, Sydney, Noel, and *possibly* Jenna will be leaving Rosewood to go to college, there is space for new people. With Ezra opening up his bookstore and Aria not getting into her colleges, I'm wondering if they are setting the stage for Aria to go to Hollis and she and Ezra run the bookstore together. If the girls are seniors now (are they seniors?) then that would mean that Aria will be turning 18 soon, she and Ezra are about to become legal. I bet that the letter comes out and Ezra makes the pitch that rather than have to lie about who she is to get into a school that won't challenge her any way, that she use the connections with her father to look into programs at Hollis and that way the two of them can stay together. Or some such nonsense. Then you had Emily. It's been made clear that her college options are shaky. Between their financial situation and her injury we know that she can't go to school on an athletics scholarship, we know that her grades aren't so high that would warrant an academic merit scholarship, and that her parents financially can't foot the bill fully. I bet she gets offered some financial aid for a philadelphia area school, and continues coaching swimming at Rosewood Day to cover the gap in expenses, or she goes into the catering business with this new chick. That keeps HER in Rosewood. That leaves Hanna and Spencer. Interestingly other than learning that Hanna is getting into everything and Spencer hadn't yet heard, we haven't heard much about Spencer and her college applications. Which is odd because since the beginning she was so focused on Penn. That said, Penn is pretty close. Perhaps with Toby having a legitimate career in Rosewood she will stay nearby. I don't know how they would keep Hanna in the area, since it's clear that she is pretty intent on going to college, but it was pretty clear to me that in this episode they were setting up a reason for all 4 girls stick around Rosewood in some way. And as for Alison, she's not going to college. That much is clear.

Pregnant women often opt for the pat down - I did when I was pregnant. They prefer not to go through the xray type scans. I personally think Kim is currently pregnant and will announce on the new season of KUWTK, but that's just me.

On that plus side, that teal color looks fantastic on her.

I thought I read an article where Kim admitted that she made some bad wardrobe choices while pregnant and if she gets pregnant again she'll, you know, wear maternity clothes. She said that she tried to just go up in sizes. I remember reading it and thinking - hey! she knows she looked terrible! That said, I will never understand why women try to do this. Eventually you need maternity clothes! Even if you hit 7 months, and can get away with your old clothes, you eventually have to have them (I had this pair of pants that fit me until 7.5 months, I have no idea how.). And why didn't Kourtney speak up and say - hey, let's go maternity clothes shopping together, trust me you'll be MUCH more comfortable and we can find some cute stuff. Maybe we'll launch a Kardashian maternity line, there's a huge market there! As for the letter from her dad, I actually don't think that's a bad thing. I think Robert Kardashian was acknowledging that he was aware that his daughter was growing up and maturing, rather than trying to ignore what was going on in her life. I also don't think the message was just "men will like you." but more of a "men will like you, but you remember who you are." In other words, don't let anybody take advantage of your body and your looks, you control who you will be. Or pimp-mama-kris in this case. Wtf. Why am I defending Kim?

Acoording to dreammoods.com: To dream that your leg is broken, wounded or crippled signifies a lack of balance, autonomy, or independence in your life. You may be unable or unwilling to stand up for yourself. Perhaps you are lacking courage and refuse to make a stand. No clue if that's what the writers were going for but from a dream analysis standpoint, that's what it means. I liked this episode, but I'm not starting to think that either we are seeing 2 Ali's at play, or Ali has a multiple personality disorder. One moment she's looking all shifty and deceitful, the other moment, and while she's alone no less, when her guard can be down, she's looking all terrified and sad. It kind of doesn't make sense to me. I know people point to the fact that actors and writers have said that the Ali on the show does not have a twin, but let's be real. Why would they tell us if she did? Here is my theory which makes no sense at all, but hey, it's PLL, so it's fine for it not to make sense. 1) The person who hit Ali and knocked her out is her twin sister, hence why Mrs. D was crying "why would you do that??" 2) She killed Mrs D. 3) Twin Ali is still unknown. We saw a young Ali find two gifts, and her mom trained her to lie about it and tell a different story that Ali presumably came to believe. I think that real Ali may have known about her twin at one point in time, but her memory of her is repressed, in part because of her mother forcing her to create a "reality" of what she should say about what's real. Hence Mona's comment about this was when it began. 4) Twin Ali is wreaking havoc on Rosewood. She is the one who found Cyrus, she is the one stalking the girls, she is A. I have no doubt that Real Ali was a bitch and a half when she ruled the schol at Rosewood, but she truly wanted to change. In NY she talked about wanting a second chance, saying that she knows how horrible she was etc. That's why she's angry and hurt about being betrayed by the girls, creating a new group of friends. She doesn't understand why they are shutting her out, because quite frankly she's not doing some of the things they are accusnig her of and some of those conversations the girls are having are actually with Twin Ali, not real Ali. So yes, Real Ali is still a bitch queen bee. But she's not nearly as deadly/evil as Twin Ali. 5) Bethany Young - a red herring. Maybe she just reminded Mrs. D. of her poor crazy daughter locked away somewhere and that's why she was being nice to her. Nothing nmore, nothing less. And it's crazy twin ali who invited Bethany to Rosewood, not real Ali. Okay, nevermind. That makes no sense. Back to the drawing board again.

Conventional beauty and runway model beauty are not necessarily the same thing. I don't know much about the modeling industry, but on the runway, I don't think they want knockout beauty. I think they want a more uniform look that is adaptable to different styles. Essentially, as a runway model, you are a human hanger. You are showing off the clothes. As for Estee Lauder, I get why they chose her. Her looks are pretty classic and will carry different makeup styles well. She is younger, hugely popular on social media, well known, and if Estee Lauder wants to become a younger brand, then I can understand their strategy of going with somebody as Kendall as the face of Estee Lauder, as opposed to an older, more established model. Kendall currently has upcoming "it girl" status. And hey. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think Kendall is beautiful. I personally think that Cara Delvigne is not attractive at all, she looks too harsh and angry, IMO, but clearly plenty of people disagree with me there, including the modeling industry.

I just read that interview with complete disbelief. I can't believe somebody finally came out that candidly against Kris, finally! I've always wished that Kris Humphries or Lamar would do some type of tell-all interview/story, but I know that with pre-nup agreements their mouths are shut. But, now that Bruce is divorcing Kris, it looks like all bets are off! So I believe it about the happiness in his voice. Bruce has just seemed more and more glum and tuned out as the years have gone by. The show started out showing him as a voice in the family, having speaking engagements, etc. As the years have gone by, he's been relegated to a beach house, paid for by PMK, and helicopter toys. I have a tough time believing that a man who possesses the drive and determination to become an olympian would ever be satisfied with that "kept man" lifestyle. I can believe an older woman making that comment about his current looks/appearance, and Bruce laughing at her. We saw an episode dedicated to Kris and her relationship with Bruce's mom and how they never got along. There were articles earlier in the year talking about Kim leaving North to jetset with Kanye and how it's what she saw her mother do, and she doesn't think there's anything wrong with leaving a baby behind. Combine that with the comment from Bruce's mom about how she never was around to take care of Kylie and Kendall when they were babies fits. We know the relationship with Bruce's kids has been strained (and I don't think we can just point the finger at Bruce for that).

There are pics of Kylie and Kendall debuting their line for PacSun and the contrast between the two girls is amazing. And not in a good way. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2826982/Kendall-Kylie-Jenner-cause-stir-debuting-holiday-fashion-collection-Chicago.html Kendall looks young, pretty, and fresh faced. Kylie looks old. Seriously, she looks like she's about 40-45 years old. She's also channeling Kim, big time, in some of those pics. What is up with this family? Kris is in her 60's trying to be 32. Kim is trying to freeze her looks into age 28. Kendall is 17 and looks 43. I don't get it. I feel like there is some bizarre age dysmorphia happening, if there is such a thing. Going both ways - in reverse and forwards.

I'm completely creeped out. I feel like that picture of Kylie from Halloween looks like some pervy child porn shot. Plus, that shot of her, with her head tilted, lips puffed up, reminds me of those people who try to get themselves to look like real life barbie dolls, right down to the vacant eyes. Creepy. It's like I'm watching an SVU episode unfold in real life. In addition to the nose job, and lip injections (although I do think that Kylie helps it out with the lipstick/liner, you can see the natural lip line in a few pics), it also looks to me like she's lost about 20/30 pounds. That would absolutely narrow out her face, make her nose seem longer, eyes seem bigger, etc. Poor thing. Kendall is walking Versace, and Kylie is becoming a real life cartoon. Creepy.

I think Kris planned, on when the Kim, Khloe and Kourtney fame started to die down, that she would have a fallback on Kendall and Kylie and then build them up as the Kardashian sisters v. 2.0. That is why she tried to market them as a team. However, since Kendall's fashion career has taken off, and Kylie hasn't really done much, she can't really do that anymore. The high fashion world does not want or need Kylie Jenner, and it would be a disservice to Kendall to have her tied to Kylie for the sake of a reality tv brand. Once Kim, Khloe and Kourtney call it quits, that will most likely be the end. Unless Kendall's career fizzles, and it doesn't look like that is happening any time soon. My prediction: Kourtney and Kendall will be the ones who come out on top from all of this.

I don't know if I should be posting this here or in the Kim thread, but since the pics are here.... Forget the lace, the holes, the bare mid-drift. WHAT'S WITH THE CAMEL TOE!!!!! Okay, maybe it's an illusion of camel toe, because of the seam and because the pants are high waisted and tight they....oh for fuck's sake, it doesn't matter. What's with the camel toe??? Oh, and Save North.

That photo is really disturbing. I'm not sure if anybody here ever watched that show The Event with Jason Ritter. At one point in the show there was this creepy scene that showed the alien kids who aged too quickly, but were still kids. A bunch of old people heads on 4/5/6 year old bodies. That's kind of what I feel like I'm looking at here. Contrast Kris with Kendall who looks amazing. What on earth is she thinking? And why isn't Kendall demanding that she walk 10 paces behind her so that she doesn't have to be photographed with her? I think North is cute. I feel bad for the kid having the constant paparazzi in her face, and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before she's crying and burying her head in Kim or Kanye's shoulder, a la Suri Cruise. And as a parent, I kind of can't blame Kanye and Kim for not smiling and looking happy when the paps are all over them for pictures of their kids. I know they are famous, it comes with the territory, but North didn't ask to be a part of this shit show. As for her little leather skirt - I think it's part of the Kardashian kids collection? http://www.toysrus.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=33589946

Somewhere, Beethoven and Louis Armstrong are having a very good laugh.

Nope, you're not alone in that. I know over at TWOP, where the 90210 board was quite active, thanks to SoapNet, Tracy was not a popular character. Doormat and cringeworth were a few words that got tossed around quite a bit. I actually really liked Tracy. I think I like Susan and Brandon better, but Tracy's only fault was liking Brandon more than he liked her. She certainly was not and won't be the last young woman who thinks "if I just hang in there, we will get there." They trashed the character of Tracy, making her bitchy and intolerant, simply for the sake to bring self-righteous Brandon and uppity Kelly back together. Jesse sucked. And I DESPISE. HATE. LOATHE. Clare Arnold. My god, she was one unlikeable character. I might hate Ray a bit more. But it's really a tossup.

I actually took it to mean that Ali's entire story that she told the liars is utter b.s. Wouldn't be the first time. The only reason we know that Mrs. D buried Ali is because Ali said so. And I actually assumed that's what Spencer was thinking when she watched the video.

I actually think that North looks just like Kanye in those pictures, especially the one on the lower left.

How did Ali know that Spencer had put up cameras? Did Spencer tell her? I can't recall that conversation, but if she didn't, then I'd think it's odd and suspect that Ali's mind automatically went to "surveillance" cameras. As opposed to something more normal, like seeing her outside her bedroom window. Also, isn't Ali supposed to be Queen Bee? Why are we seeing her as so desperate and isolated, without these 4 girls? I always got the impression that Ali was the Regina George of Rosewood. The most popular girl, had a ton of friends and boyfriends, people hated her but wanted to be her, and she was outright nasty to the people on the lower rungs of popularity. But as it stands right now, it seems like Ali only has the 4 girls. And I'm not sure I even see why it was that people flocked to her to begin with. Her personality certainly isn't magnetic. She's dressing like I would on my way into the office, in blazers and cardigans. She doesn't have that young and vivacous feel about her. Maybe she's not supposed to because of the past 2 years, but there's nothing about her right now that says "I used to own these halls." Maybe I'm expecting too much out of the character right now. In my world, it's been weeks. It's appropriate for her to crack a smile now and then. But in PLL time, it's been about 72 hours.

And what constitutes facts when it comes to the Kardashians? Their life has become one big PR/entertainment spin. Let's use your example of Andrea Bocelli or somebody close to him, telling that story that he had been invited as a guest. Kim and Kanye would probably come out, rebutting it, saying that it's not true, that he was hired entertainment, had a contract, and was never invited as a guest. So then, which is fact? Their life plays out on a not-so realistic television show. Their life plays out in the tabloids, not just as gossip, but in tips and stories that they supply. At this point in their lives, the "facts" are far and few between.

Wow. Way to accomodate a blind man. These two have less sensitivity than a pair of rocks.