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I don't think Meghan won. She was royally called out in a beautiful way. I loved it! I thought Whoopi was spot on. She not only told her to stop talking, she also commented about the way she was behaving. I loved the way it came pouring out. She clearly said what a lot of people have been thinking for a long time. It was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. 🙂 I disagree that Whoopi backed down. She didn't have the luxury of going any further. This is live TV. She had to go to commercial and the show had to continue. There was nothing more to be said, anyway. Those few words were perfection. Whoopi won, IMO. And so did those of us who have wanted to tell that bitch Meghan off for such a long time.

JMO, but I don't think there's any comparison. JLo is far more hot - and interesting to watch, charismatic, and dynamic. I've always thought Scarlett was over-rated, and nothing I saw last night changed my mind. I'm not especially a JLo fan, but I thought her episode (the writing, her, everything about it) was a lot better, Even though the whole "she's so hot" thing was overdone, I liked it a lot. Much better than Scarlett's episode last night, which I thought was boring a lot of the time. Mileage varies for sure, but I don't see her as anything special.

She is very well-liked and well-respected in the industry, by crew and non-celebrities too, and that says a lot. It has nothing to do with kissing her ass. She is most definitely not a diva, and believe me, I've seen my share of those. I've also seen her in action many times with the public, and she is kind and compassionate. I'm not 100% Team Whoopi. I don't always agree with what she says and what she believes, and I think she gets way in over her head a lot of the time. But saying that she's only nice to Hollywood friends who kiss her ass is unfair. I also really disagree that she and Meghan are cut from the same cloth. I don't see that in any way at all.

I don't think she's mean either. She is very well-liked in the industry. She also does a lot of charity work (hands-on, face-to-face, not just donating money.) She doesn't come across to me as mean at all. But she does tend to get preachy and rambly, and I agree it can be cringe-worthy. I still like her, though, and I would take her over Meghan 100 times over.

Exactly. He wasn't the slightest bit antagonistic. He was pleasant, and barely had time to speak before she cut into him. She was completely out-of-line. So rude, and like an exaggerated parody of her usual rude self. Hard to believe she could be worse than usual, but she was. I work in television, and I have never seen a host on any show ever be as rude, critical, and insulting to a guest who was calmly sitting there as she was to him. How dare she be so dismissive and insulting! I bet he wanted to smack her across the face. I know I would have been itching to do that. She came across as a smug, entitled, obnoxious bitch, not as someone who should be co-hosting a show, or for that matter even having a conversation with anyone privately. I disagree. The others push back, depending on the guest and what the guest is saying, but Meghan is outright rude right from the start very often. Her opinion is all that matters, in her own mind, and if she's not interested in a guest or if she disagrees with them, she dismisses them as irrelevant. (Just as she does with topics she doesn't like.) Not allowing a guest to speak and being overtly rude right off the bat is classic Meghan. Her "questions" are more about how much she dislikes/disagrees with them than actual questions and allowing them to speak. As though her opinion actually carries a great deal of weight and is relevant! Most of the time the others are respectful toward guests. There have been spirited conversations, but IMO that doesn't come anywhere close to Meghan when it comes to being consistently downright nasty, condescending, and rude. There's at least one instance of her doing that every single day. (I completely disagree that they are all mean girls. I know Joy, and she absolutely is not. I don't love all of the others, but I don't think any of them are, either.)

I really wanted to like him, but I find him boring. Yes, he does seem to play the same character. And he always tries much too hard. That takes me out of the premise/character every time. I don't know about the worst of the season, but I thought it was pretty bad. I wasn't impressed with Scarlett at all. I did love the Macy's thing - That was hilarious, one of the funniest I've seen on this show, which is saying something since I've been watching since the beginning. But other than that, disappointing.

Joy wasn't stirring the pot. She was stating a fact that's pretty hard to dispute. Melania's whole "Be Best" thing clearly doesn't apply to her husband, who apparently is free to say anything he wants about children (or anyone else.) Even his supporters acknowledge that he throws nasty insults around like confetti. How is it working? Steyer didn't seem the least bit ruffled by anything she said. I'm not really a fan of his, but I think he stood the heat quite well. He was probably actually amused by her childishness. Her disrespect toward him was so overt and over-the-top that there's no way he could take it seriously. The pouting was laughable. I haven't seen her attempts to get a rise out of people working on anyone at all.

I agree. It's unfortunate, though, that Abby kept interrupting him. I have no interest in listening to her boring, Captain Obvious ramblings when someone who is intelligent and has interesting insight is sitting right there. And what about being polite to a guest co-host? Abby, we can listen to your vapid "insight" every single day. When someone like Ronan is on, shut up and listen so we can all do the same! (I honestly expected there to be a lot of posts here about this. It seemed to me that she interrupted him every time he tried to talk. And he didn't try to talk over her or interject himself into the conversation. He sat there politely and listened to her ramble on. What a waste! I would have loved to hear more from him and less from her. She actually annoyed me more than Meghan today. And that's saying quite a lot.)

She's a self-involved little brat - and apparently proud of it. Having to wear a hair tie and keep her walkie with her apparently was too much of an imposition. I have little tolerance for people who excuse their behavior with, "Well, this is who I am!!" Considering Tanner was sick, she should have at least stayed until they knew he would be okay and could continue working. They were down one crew member thru no fault of his own. Her bailing at the same time was ill-timed and selfish. It would have gone a long way in making her look like a responsible team player if she had offered to stay (and actually work) a little longer. Except of course she's not responsible nor is she a team player. It wasn't fun for her anymore, so she wanted to take her ball and go home. (And then of course she whined that she had nowhere to go.) Why stay? Because she signed on for a job, because they were already down one crew member, and because it's incredibly irresponsible and immature to simply decide to leave whenever you feel like it. Nothing horrible was happening to her - The conditions weren't awful, she wasn't being harassed. In fact I think they were all pretty pleasant and patient with her. And they had every right to count on her to do the job she was hired to do - Not run out like a 2 year old who doesn't want to play anymore. Instead of whining and crying and telling everyone she wanted to quit, she should have had a conversation with Ashton in a calm moment, and discussed how best to proceed. I absolutely think she thought her little breakdown would give her some time off from actually working while everyone else coddled her as she languished on the yacht. The job wasn't what she expected. Okay, that happens. But she wasn't signing her life away. It just would have been a few more weeks, or maybe less if she had handled this like an adult.

Thank you so much! Of course that makes perfect sense and is much more clear to me now. 🙂 They showed kids first, and I thought they were his. Then there was a woman holding a baby, so I thought he was married. Until they showed the other people sitting on benches, etc. That said "park" to me. And I thought maybe he was homeless and lived in the park. So I very much appreciate being told what should have been obvious! Maggie is an idiot. I thought so before, but what she did was ridiculous. As for the influencers in the ER, I've never worked in a medical facility where that would have been permitted. The stupid woman was getting in the way of medical care, for one thing. And other patients could have been caught on camera, which is a major no-no. She should have been told to turn off the camera, and then escorted out if she did not comply.

I’m confused about what happened when Maggie brought that guy home. Was it just a park? I just watched, after a day of medical testing and I’m feeling groggy. So if the answer to this is obvious, I apologize. Clearly it was obvious to everyone else!

Just to provide another point of view: I had a privileged childhood on Long Island, and we belonged to country clubs. I've been to many in several states, and never once saw a jello salad at any of them. I actually never saw one anywhere (other than in magazines and cookbooks) until I was in college. I've always thought of jello salad as something inexpensive that people bring to potlucks. (And I think country club food is delicious!) 🙂 I have an issue with his voice too. I find it distracting. And I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think he's attractive at all.

I completely agree with your entire post. Toby & Kate should have gone out for a romantic dinner - just quiet time, just the two of them, a chance to reconnect as a couple. Or maybe a movie where he could put his arm around her and they could snuggle without having to worry about the baby maybe waking up or crying or whatever. Let the feelings happen. Let nature take its course. Pave the way for actual sex that maybe would happen that night, maybe not. Their lives are so pressured with this new baby, and the last thing either of them need is more pressure. This should have been about relaxing, recharging, and connecting, I agree - The way they went about it seemed cold (and super unromantic) to me too. And yes, Rebecca's father and Jack. I hated all that. For the reasons you said. And also, it was boring. Haha! I do remember! This really made me laugh. 😅

I completely agree. I'm not a big fan of them as a couple to begin with, and I'm completely over seeing their dating years. Jack & Rebecca in the way past has already been overdone for awhile now. There's so much else the writers could be exploring that would be far more interesting. Yes, it is. I have a friend who was dating a guy who started working out and lost a lot of weight. She was overweight (nowhere near as much as Kate), and eventually the relationship started to fizzle. Finally he told her that his new more fit self was not as attracted to her anymore. It was all pretty sad because they had been together for awhile and they had been very compatible and happy. I agree that Toby probably doesn't find Kate attractive. Not only physically, but in other ways too. He has always been super-supportive of her in whatever she wanted to do, and I think he's seeing that he doesn't get that back. At all. She's clearly upset that he got in shape and is taking care of himself. And she has an overall negative attitude about it because as always - it's all about her. I think he may be realizing that this is who she is, and this is the way it's always been. It's understandable that he's viewing her differently now.

Yes, for sure they are over-sharers. But this seemed like awkward/clumsy/lazy writing to me. I like that Nicky is a man of a few words too. I loved little Nicky, and wasn’t sure how much I would like the grown-up, damaged version. But there’s something intriguing about him. And the few words he says.

He is fiercely protective of his girls. I like him (most of the time), and I understand that he’s not perfect, but it seems to me that the Randall we know would have been brief in that moment. Yes, he wants to make sure that everyone is ok, and so his immediate goal would have been to get to his daughter quickly, help her, and protect her. I’m pretty sure the protective aspect would have kicked in for him immediately. Of course he messes up sometimes, but it didn’t seem to me like the kind of mistake he would make. I saw it more as clumsy/lazy writing than anything else.

That was not cool at all. He just should have said it was a call from his child's school and he had to go. Not only should he be protecting his family's privacy, but someone with his resume and life experience should be better at choosing the right words and using discretion overall.

I hope that's not it too, even though they seem to be making it look that way. I'm wondering, though, if perhaps he dies. Maybe he's abusive AND he dies. Or maybe there's no abuse at all. Maybe he becomes ill or whatever and dies, and it's yet another loss for Kate. Not as major a loss as her Dad, but another loss on top of that one. Rebecca said something about having no idea it was happening, and Kate said she had no idea either. That could apply to abuse, but it also could be that he was hiding a serious illness. He does seem to be somewhat controlling, but I'm not sure that necessarily means abuse. They could be throwing us a curveball. I hope so. A storyline about abuse is not appealing to me at all.

I hated all of that. Kevin had been doing great up to that point. I liked the way he was interacting with Nick, Cassidy, the kid, everyone. And then he very inappropriately confronted Cassidy's husband. He had no right to criticize and question him like that. He came on way too strong. And then yes - the long-winded reply. There are so many better ways we could have been given that insight into the husband's point of view. It was incredibly unrealistic. I'm from Long Island, and I remember it well. We never sliced it, though. I remember my parents scooping it out from the middle, the same as they would if it had been in any other kind of container. You're right - The top never really closed properly.

I agree. I've never been a fan of hers. She always seems to play the same kind of character, using the same two or three facial expressions. I did watch the Cosby Show occasionally, but never enjoyed her at all. She's okay on this show. Very one-note and nothing we haven't seen her do before, though. You don't need to run away from me. I'm with you 100%. 🙂

Keke may be a very nice person, but I think she sucks the life out of that show. It was already seeming kind of rocky, and adding her made it much, much worse IMO. I love Sara, but I no longer record it because Keke has made it unwatchable for me. (I thought I had also quoted another post so I could reply, but I don't see it now, so I'll just say that I agree with pretty much everything that's been said here about Abby. She's not bright, she's not articulate, I give her an A for effort, but I get second-hand embarrassment when she rambles on and on and ends up going nowhere.)

Meghan seems to be stuck at a much younger age than high school. She acts like a young (spoiled & bratty) child pretty much every day. I think it's more like the early years of elementary school. But whatever stage she's stuck in, it's really, really unattractive on a grown woman. She's insufferable and has no self-awareness whatsoever.

That's how I see it too. It seems to me that the whole point of coming here is to discuss the clues and share our guesses. I don't know what else we would talk about if we didn't do that.

I am so over Jack & Rebecca's early years too. And yes, there was Jack going into a whole monologue at the dinner table. Predictable and overdone, and it doesn't endear him to me at all. I would have been okay with it if it hadn't gone on so damn long! People on other sites posted that they thought they were watching the wrong show, had accidentally changed the channel, or whatever. I understand trying to pique our curiosity, but I was really bored because it seemed as though I was endlessly watching people I didn't know and didn't care about. All of that went on much, much too long. I agree. After waiting all this time, we wanted to see the family we've come to know! Instead we were subjected to these random people for the majority of the episode. I'm with you - I'm not at all interested in any of the new characters either. They were shoved in my face too much, and I kept wanting them to go away. It was overkill. This episode needed a much better balance.

That was a really lovely moment. So sweet and so real. I wanted her to be able to hug her Mom right then. 🙂 It was hugely disappointing (although not at all unexpected) when Jackson won, but I have to say that Nicole's reaction to winning America's Favorite Houseguest is the image that stayed with me after the show was over. She had no idea how viewers felt about her, and she was truly surprised. Nice contrast: Jackson's shock resulted in a sour face and extreme upset while Nicole's shock clearly made her very, very happy. Well-earned by both of them, I would say.