TattleTeeny

I am not by any means a bastion of grownup-lady maturity but the idea of this adult man with a job he wants everyone to believe is oh so serious and important is running around having Twitter wars is ridiculous. Way more so than the women of these shows, for which public bitchery is kind of part of their roles on the show, I'd think. EDITED because I meant "bitchery," not "butchery"!

To be fair, the show did make clear the reasons that Buffy was with Spike.

This happens! My sister was a "bad kid" at home, where she really seemed to like to push my mom's buttons. But out in public and at school, she was good as hell! Teachers loved her!

She probably took the cab to wherever her car was parked, or to the train. I don't actually mind meeting someone for a date; if I don't like him, I can leave whenever I want. Or, if he's a crazed maniac, he won't know where I live or shove me into a trunk (when I'm not watching this nonsense, I tend to keep the Discovery ID channel on the TV).

I just don't understand "frozen hot chocolate" at all.

I have no strong feelings about Dina one way or the other, but the heels I saw are just... regular-woman shoes. Not that hookers can't be "regular" women, of course. That's sometimes what shoes with heels look like, no? They're (the style, if not the $$$ brands that Dina has) in just about any shoe store around.

And Carlton and her bad-ass tattoos. Just once, I'd like to see one of them get a big, good tattoo! Come on!

I know--I caught that too! And it seemed like she repeated it back correctly and still didn't answer in keeping with the question.

Is "hottie toddy" bad to say? I just assumed she meant a hot toddy and made it rhyme, not that she has no idea what it's actually called. People do shit like that all the time.

Oh my goodness, I know--it was like dealing with a little kid! Yikes, make him a PB&J with the crusts cut off and send him to bed.

Agreed, more or less. I didn't say otherwise.

I feel the same way.

Neither do I. Amber's words alone do not prove that she believes the rumor. And that's all I was saying. And that I think Melissa's behavior was bad (which doesn't automatically make Amber's good).

I wasn't debating any of that. But never mind--it's not that interesting. Semantics and other confusion-inducing stuff... Whatever; they're all idiots--those twins for believing Melissa before talking to their close friend first, Amber for saying it at all, Melissa for sticking her nose in to protect a friend of 12 whole hours… but again, I'm applying real-life logic to reality TV.

Yes, I know; I make a living with words. But even if I didn't, I can see (and have freely admitted that we don't see everything) that what Amber said is not a flat-out indication that she believes this rumor. Right, which is why I didn't do the whole "opinion as fact" thing or anything at all to imply that mine was the correct assessment. All I said at first was basically that Melissa's a douche. If I were telling a friend that I'd heard something, I'd say it similarly to Amber. If I were telling a friend that I knew something, I'd say that. Never said I didn't think Amber was being shady or using "grapevine" as an umbrella; just that I don't presume to know what a complete stranger on TV means outside of her words.

I'm just going by the words I actually heard, not reading into what "seem to" be. I don't know the woman (though I have a nagging feeling that I've met her in the past…or maybe it's just because I've seen the low-budget local commercials she's in); I have no way of gauging whether "the way" she deliberately spreads a rumor is any different than "the way" she orders a pizza. Either way, Melissa should butt out.

Melissa's a dolt--she probably has no idea that we can all see that Amber said "through the grapevine." I think it's Melissa who's a shady ass for telling some nobody she just met what her "friend" said (and not even all of what Amber said). I mean, if any of this actually not manufactured, that is. Also, that was the tattoo place where I get my stuff done.

I don't know why but reading the premise of this movie just made me laugh to the point of watering eyes at my desk at work.

UGH! I immediately thought of that simpering ass Jennifer Love Hewitt on that short-lived show of hers set in NY. Oddly enough, I so wish I could find it and watch it--even though it made me rage out like crazy.

Or I could stuff some big old novelty one into my purse for big nights out at dive bars!

Oh, Melissa Gorga, busting up your car every three days is not cute or endearing, no matter how itty-bitty you (pretend to) think the "scratch" is. Not that I saw. I mean, I don't know that I doubt she ever said it, but that is not exactly what she said on the show; she claimed that she heard it through the grapevine. I do, at least in the confines of this narrative. She just met those twins (as far as said narrative goes) and is entirely willing and can't wait to tattle on her long-lost friend (without even waiting for the conversation to turn naturally toward the topic!). That is trashy as hell in my book. And then those twins just take Melissa's word without giving the benefit of the doubt to an existing friend. My doctor's office is right across the street from Kim D's store. I always have an urge to go in there and just gawk.

I've lived in North Jersey all my life (within 10 minutes of the cast, and 30 from the city) and while I have heard accents like these women's here and there, it's not often--it's definitely odd enough that I've specifically noticed it as opposed to being used to it. But I have had people ask me while I am traveling where my "New Joisey" accent is (incidentally, the people who ask this are the only ones I've ever actually heard say "New Joisey).

Oh, maybe it isn't a boy vs. girl thing with Rosie anyway; maybe it's based on the activities. I'm a straight girl but I'd definitely prefer beer and bowling to cakes and crying.

So we know for a fact that she was "put" somewhere, then? No. We know for a fact that we saw her hanging out with the men. Forgive me for not knowing all of this absolutely 100% irrefutable information about what Rosie does. I am neither Rosie nor employed as part of the RHoNJ production team, and thus don't have all the absolute details one would have if one were Rosie or Andy or a member of the RHoNJ crew. Clearly, others do have that solid, indisputable data, and it couldn't possibly be any other reason but stereotyping and oppression. God forbid the lesbian actually like a "boy activity."

I apologize then; I was going only on what I saw on the show, not behind-the-scenes insider facts to which I wasn't privy. Maybe Rosie will blog that she was bullied into bowling by Bravo.