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Not only is it sad that Kody doesn’t at least check in on Gwen, it seems that she is not allowed to see her siblings, either. Gwen is an adult, as are Robyn’s oldest—why can’t they get together for lunch or a picnic at a park (assuming Robyn doesn’t trust Gwen with the youngest, one of the older daughters can go so that it is “safe”). Gwen said that Kody, Robyn and crew are all invited to her wedding and that she hopes they come, but they didn’t come to her engagement party, although they were invited. Kody really is a piece of 💩 father.

I hope it works out for Christine, she seems very happy. I think she may have met this man long before they started dating—maybe talking as friends? I do agree that, in my view, it is pretty quick to get engaged, but in Christine’s culture it is not. Even mainstream LDS do not generally have long courtships or engagements. Kody treated Christine badly for years. Once Robyn came into the picture, she saw her husband fall in love with another woman. It must have been soul-crushing for Christine to realize that Kody actually was romantic and thoughtful, just not with her. Kody then legally married Robyn and started to prioritize Robyn’s children over hers to the point of not going to Ysabel’s surgery. It was evident that Kody used Covid as an excuse to avoid do anything he did not want to do. So I really can’t blame love and affection- starved Christine for wanting this relationship to progress. I wouldn’t do it, but maybe it’s the right thing for her?

I get that some children are a LOT, and shall we say, “naturally exuberant,” but with three adults supervising two kids, Ari should have been corrected well before falling into a water feature. Paedon mentioned in one of his videos that Ari, Sol, and Breanna can do no wrong in their parents’ eyes, and I think that is the main issue here.

Did Kody change the LLC because the OG wives each now have separate deals with TLC ? I would think that Christine and Meri would insist on their own contracts to do the show. I’m not sure about Janelle, because she’s only “separated” from Kody and may still have tangled finances with him.

Yes, it wasn’t filmed as I recall, but K and R did take a Hawaii trip after their legal union. —The legal ceremony that Meri was supposed to have included in, but they snuck off without her —The legal ceremony that they were going to keep secret but were outed online —The legal ceremony that wasn’t supposed to change anything but let Kody adopt Robyn’s kids Kody and Robyn are shady as hell.

I watched Gwen’s latest reaction video on YouTube, and even though she must have cut out the part about bruising and throwing her in the air, it was still sad. Her somewhat sad and wistful face when she watched the part where Robyn’s kids come home from school and Kody acts exited and wants to know how their day went broke my heart. Gwen did have the grace to say that she was happy for Sol and Ari to get that from their father, but she just wished she’d had it, too. When Gwen got to the “knife in the kidneys” rant by Kody, she said it wasn’t unusual for him to yell like that. Gwen said Kody had yelled at her like that and even Bea (fiancé) said that she didn’t like how Kody speaks to Gwen sometimes.

Just finished watching this, and I personally found it informative because I really did not know much about the Murdaugh case, except that he's (Alex) been charged with murder of his wife and son. I also had known very little about the boating accident except for the news blurbs. I liked that the series included some background and interviews with the teens who had been on the boat when it crashed. Paul's ex-girlfriend added some insight as to Murdaugh family dynamics and the relationship Paul had with the housekeeper/babysitter. I would recommend this to anyone like me who would like a primer on the Murdaugh case, although I agree that there is likely much more information that could have been included and more to be uncovered.

I think if something bad happened or one was defrauded, the NDA would not be enforceable. Besides, does anyone really think that Meri would spend the money and time to sue someone and the endure the backlash from fans if an attendee said something? Especially if that person was not wealthy and did not have the money to pay a judgment?

Re bolded— one can only hope! I don’t really need to see every aspect of Christine’s new relationship, but I do feel happy for her, because she so desperately wanted intimacy and romance in her life. Now, if she had chosen to remain unpartnered, that would be fine, too if that’s what she wanted. Same for Janelle and even Meri—they should do whatever makes them happy. I am enjoying the fact that asshole Kody has to face the fact that Christine is lovable and has found someone else.

I agree with others here that Christine has at least now this new man for awhile, perhaps even being friends with him before the official announcement of her split from Kody. I think that Kody knew or had an inkling that someone may have been waiting in the wings and that was one of the reasons he went so nuts about Christine leaving— just my speculation, of course. Christine’s post about her BF was a little OTT and a bit cringey but she’s still in the “honeymoon phase” of the relationship. Also, Christine tended to be OTT and cringey in the past— so it’s just who she is. At any rate, I hope this guy is sincere and Christine is finally having a bit of fun and romance.

Was there ever any description of Meri’s apartment and how big it was? The house looks as if each side is equal in square footage from the outside, but that could be an illusion.

Well, Mady seems a lot like her mother in the video, imo. The reason Mady is able to monetize her TikTok is because she and her siblings were on TV for years. People are interested in her because of her famous family, not because she herself is so compelling. As such, she should accept the fact that there’s going to be curiosity. She doesn’t have to answer any questions, of course, but her seeming righteous indignation at questions is off-putting. Wanna make money off your fame (and not any skill or talent)? Then one should accept that there’s going to be interest in the source of that fame, both positive and negative.

I understand what you’re saying— it’s two different things that have gotten combined. Meri was a victim of catfishing, and she was guilty of having an emotional affair. In the past, I had some compassion for Meri because of the catfish incident—she was lonely and had an empty nest. Kody was busy (mostly with Robyn) and I had the feeling that when he was at Meri’s he wasn’t exactly present. Meri did lie about it and wrongly involved Leon, but she was scammed by a sick person, imo.

Right? Couldn’t Kody at least have built a covered paved pathway so that the kids would be somewhat protected in bad weather? Or Kody could’ve decreed that the kids would be permitted once a day to go back at forth thru Meri’s at set times? It seems thatMeri wanted it both ways—to be listened to and respected as a “bonus mom” but not the inconvenience, noise, mess, etc. of actually being a mother to all of those kids.

I’ve posted before how I’d love to go to Utah to see some of the natural beauty there—but I wouldn’t stay at Lizzie’s for $50/ night, much less what Meri is charging! I could go to the Caribbean and stay in a beautiful resort, take a Cunard transatlantic cruise, go to NYC and stay in a nice hotel while taking in a couple of Broadway shows, go back to Hawaii, etc. for the same amount of money. Why anyone would want to spend that money to hang out in a dusty old in with Meri is beyond me.

Gwen said that he last kid that was hit by Kody was her, so I doubt Ysabel, Savannah and Truely were ever hit, spanked, “swatted, “ etc. I would bet that Robyn’s kids were never physically punished by Kody (I don’t know about by Jessop). I think the truth in that family regarding corporal punishment of the children is more complicated than yes they were or no they weren’t. And the term “abuse” can have different meanings to different people— not just the legal definition.

Or home to Kody? I don’t know how accepting Kody would be if one of his male kids came out as queer or trans.

I think it was three weeks long. I seem to remember Robyn posting about it. Paedon said that he hoped Dayton could find his freedom from Robyn one day and that he likes Dayton and thinks he’s a great guy.

I’ve never really cared for Leon’s personality and what I perceive as their righteous, pretentious, “look at me, I’m so special/ better-than-you” attitude— but they look like a bigger version of their little sister Ari here. Not my aesthetic, but to each their own—as long as they’re happy.

I’m a little confused as to Gwen’s motivation here— did she just want the recaps deleted so as to keep the content more exclusive to paying subscribers? Did Ysabel ask Gwen to do so, and why? Gwen’s own content is still out the asfaik. It makes no sense to me. Is the original video with Ysabel by Myketi and Tony still available?

Harry Markopolis (the math whiz who first determined it was a fraud) called it an “affinity con” because one tends to trust others more if they are part of their community or group. A lot of Madoff’s clients were through word-of-mouth testimonials from other investors who were already getting great returns.

Right, Paedon never said the word “abuse.” He never said she spanked or hit them, specifically. I personally think she did on at least a couple of occasions for him to be that vocal about Meri, but ymmv. I had a teacher, a nun, in 4th grade that seemed to have it out for me. I hated her, she made my life miserable. I still feel to this day that she was abusive to me. But guess what? Some of my old classmates that I am still in touch with didn’t have that experience at all— they just thought she was strict. I was not a bad kid, and I got good grades— to this day, I am a mature grandparent and I still do not know why that nun singled me out. As for Gwen and Paedon’s relationship, I ‘m reserving judgment for now. Paedon admits he hit her. Obviously, they have radically different world views and political opinions so of course they do not get along. I know families that some members cannot or will not talk to each other because of this reason. I am not going to discount everything Paedon says about his childhood because I do not agree with him on other issues. The same goes for Gwen— her experience and memories are hers.

I don’t think Meri would dare to smack any of Robyn’s kids—not only because of “She-Ra” Robyn, but because of Kody. Meri knows Robyn and her kids are favored, while Christine’s were not. Many times in families there is scapegoat child— and in a family of 18 kids, there may have been several. Perhaps Meri never laid a hand on most of the kids, and only spanked a couple of then on a few occasions. How many spankings equal abuse? For some people, once is one time too many—for others, it’s a normal part of parenting (as long as it’s not severe). On the other hand maybe Meri never hit any of the kids, but the abuse may have been verbal and emotional? Emotional abuse can be just as damaging, imo. At any rate, that is Paedon’s perception of his childhood. If he wants to tell his story, why can’t he? All of the parents on the show used and exposed their children’s lives for money.

I don’t think Paedon is lying about Meri hitting him and some of the other kids. I don’t have to agree with someone about their other opinions about social or world issues (particularly Queer issues) to believe them about other things. I do think, however, that Paedon is using hyperbole to make his point about Meri—and he shouldn’t if he wants to be taken seriously. He’s a 20-something guy that is coming off a little cocky, which may rub some people the wrong way. Paedon is telling his story about his childhood, so of course all of the other kids in the family may not have had the same experiences or feelings as him. If I wrote a memoir about my childhood, I’m sure that there would be things in it that my siblings did not experience, remember or agree with. FWIW, I found this excerpt from Becoming Sister Wives

Isn’t there a passage in their book, Becoming Sister Wives, that addresses the split between Meri and Christine having to do with a fight over how severely Meri disciplined some of C’s children? I believe that Meri probably did physically discipline some of the kids—not all of them likely got fair and equal punishment for the same offenses. I can’t imagine that Leon got the same treatment as Maddie for a similar offense, for instance. Paedon talks about how Kody smacked his bottom or tapped him on the face a few times (he admits he was a smart mouth), but didn’t think it was undeserved or a big deal. So I imagine whatever Meri allegedly did was more severe. Another tidbit in the interview was that Christine told Paedon that Kody was trying to have TLC (or the production co.) draw up contracts for some of the adult kids to sign saying they would be prohibited from talking negatively about Kody on any platform.