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Saw the very end of the show last night-- MK got VERY vocal about the report being released and its adverse effect on the victims. She quoted Ark. regulations regarding the matter and had two guests ( forget their names)-- on either side of the issue. Megyn had to concede at the end that it wasn't a clear-cut issue because the regs. said one thing (illegal release) while two Ark. judges issued opinions that releasing such reports was allowable.

I don't think it's fair, imo, to use the word " irrational" here. Burt may be bitter, but his experience and rationale are his own.I'm glad Caitlyn has agreed to be called "dad" for now. She is the biological father of six, and I imagine some of her offspring must need time to process and adjust to this change.

I heard the word " bribe" also.

I also meant to say that I took exception to Jim Bob saying that Josh told them "everything." How would Jim Bob know? Also, if some of the girls were asleep during some of the incidents and also "didn't remember," how would anybody but Josh really know the extent and number of molestations? Do we (in the secular world, at least) trust that the perpetrator is telling the WHOLE truth without a third-party investigation? "Everything" is a pretty loaded word, Jim Bob. Use it carefully.

Watched some of the interview, and I have to add that Michele needs to look up the definition of " slander." Megyn should have asked her what exactly is FALSE about what others are saying.

Does anyone know if Jim Bob gets additional $$ from being a " manager" of the children ( for their appearances) ? It just occurred to me that JB could still make money off of his kids ( ala Kris Jenner) even if the series is canceled. Also, my fear is that if a spin-off is developed with the older daughters, JB would be able to finagle a cut as " manager" or in the form of location fees for using the properties he owns for filming. JB's influence over his daughters could even extend to some coercion over handing over a portion of the show earnings to a family trust in exchange for living on the properties.

I agree with this idea of separating the crime from the politics/ religion/ ideology of the perpetrator and his family. As galling as the hypocrisy is, it does not affect the seriousness of the act.However, the fact that Josh was raised in such a patriarchal/legalistic cult may have affected the choices he made and his inability to control his deviant urges--coupled by the likelihood that he never received professional help after he acted on those urges--resulted in the "perfect storm", as a previous poster stated. That is where my mixed feelings come in--disgust at the crime, empathy for the victims, and a small bit of compassion for the perpetrator.I have to add that any small amount of compassion for Josh would shrink or disappear if more allegations come out that he has continued to reoffend into his adult years. Now, saying all that-- would I trust him around children unsupervised? No. I also think the show should be canceled. Finally, I think that he should not hold public office.

Yes, Hannah was treated better than the other children, imo. I wonder what happened for her to lose her "most-favored- nation" status? Also, I remember Kate treating poor little Joel like crap in some early episodes--wonder if that has changed any?

I don't know if Josh's demeanor/ remorse would have necessarily lessened the harm caused to his victims (?) It may affect the response of some in the public, however, molestation is molestation to the victims.

Watched this out of curiosity with my ( adult) daughter who was sick and homebound -- don't normally watch KUWTK, so I may be missing some key points. It DID seem as if Bruce was focused on the external aspects of " being a woman"--I mean, I have no desire to be a man, but I really do not like wearing heels and too much makeup. I have only had a professional manicure twice in my life-- once on my wedding day. I wish someone would have asked Bruce what makes him think he is truly a woman and not just a cross- dresser. I also got the feeling that Bruce was talking about two personas-- his male one and his female one. Does he really feel as if there are two people, or is this a simplistic way of explaining the situation? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say " she" IS " him", as in an integrated being?

I also feel slightly conflicted about this. What Josh did was wrong, period. Jim Bob and Michelle handled it horribly. I do think the show should be canceled, but I wonder how it will affect the victims as well as the other innocent family members. I hope his victims can get professional counseling, and are reassured that none of this is their fault. I question whether there is anything Josh can to NOW to redeem himself or rehabilitate himself ( not rhetorical, btw)? I would hate to think that he is hopeless. I would hate to think of the repercussions for his family (and even his victims) if he were to harm himself.

Holy crap. Just read some of the report and I feel sick to my stomach for the victims. I didn't want to jump to any conclusions before, but this looks bad. It actually makes more sense that it was allegedly his sisters whom he molested, because of their isolation and accessibility. Also, not to defend Josh, but he was a 14 year old kid raised in an incredibly repressed and screwed up ( imo) environment--can't help feeling for him a little bit, too.

While I am no supporter of Josh and the FRC, I am of the camp that thinks something doesn't mesh with this story as is. Where is a copy of the report? Was an actual allegation made by the alleged victim, or did JB just take Josh to a state trooper to teach him a lesson?.. And so on. It has also crossed my mind that digging up dirt could be a political move, and not necessarily from the left, but from a rival faction in Ark. that may be wanting to thwart any more campaigns by JB or and local aspirations that Josh might have? Not saying that Josh is some big political force (esp. In DC), but he may someday want to run in Ark for a local or state post (?)